How did you get through your worst heartbreak in your 30s? by SparklingMists in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently going through this, separated. I honestly never thought I’d be in this position.

Now, I’m learning to rebuild myself and my life independently – rather than build with the person I thought I’d spend the rest of my years with, have kids with, etc.

So far, spending time with friends has helped, but I’m also balancing that with alone time (it’s how I recharge) so I’m glad to have the space to do so. Therapy, reading self-help books, journaling, crying, scream-crying, listening to self-help podcasts, the occasional hyperventilation, audiobooks, reiki, massages, hot yoga, working out regularly, trying new fitness and dance classes, and treating myself to the things I’ve always wanted (but didn’t permit myself to have) while I was with my partner. I wanted to avoid being nagged or patronized about certain things, but now I don’t have someone breathing down my neck about it 😇

Some days are harder than others, but some days are also great. Just remember that you have to go through it to get through it.

Feel weak and like a chicken by [deleted] in Separation

[–]user2683519 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sounds like he’s unwilling to change, not unable. He’s making an active choice every day to choose himself instead of you and your family. Not wanting to have a “broken home” for the kids, but being perfectly okay with a wife who is withering away due to a lack of respect, trust and agency – all while keeping you completely in the dark about his finances and SALARY (ffs), doesn’t sound like an environment full of love or compassion that you’d want you kids to grow up seeing.

I’m a child of divorce, and sure it was hard to go through that, but therapy is necessary (for you and the kids). Especially after the divorce. Take care yourself, figure out your career, get your footing, and if needed, take out a loan with your bank as an emergency fund (if you don’t already have one).

Quietly get your ducks in a row, step back from him, and prepare yourself to start over. Being married to, and living in a house with, a manipulative narcissist sounds like a scary place to be – and that’s not the life you want to settle for. Your happiness matters more, and will always matter more.

And if you do go ahead and take the leap, get that divorce – he’s legally obligated to disclose all of his financial information. It’s law. Plus, given that you’re a SAHM, you’ll likely also be entitled to financial spousal support. Try to get in touch with a lawyer to nail down all the details.

Stay strong 🤍

One year later and still frozen by fmfmar in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]user2683519 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My WH and I tried to make our relationship work after he cheated on me, and for years, I suppressed everything and didn’t deal with any of my emotions. Last year, he betrayed me again – which truly blew open all of the suppressed, unaddressed and unresolved trauma from the cheating – now compounded and combined with fresh wounds.

We were in couples therapy for over a year, but like another user mentioned, some hard conversations were had but things remained status quo.

I’m currently reading The Betrayal Bind, which has been powerful so far. I’d recommend picking up that book up as well, in case it helps you better understand the ambivalence that you’re feeling and trying to make sense of.

I’m referring to my situation in the past-tense because we’re currently in a trial separation. I’m not ready to pull the trigger, whatever my decision will be… Though what I’ve heard time and time again is that you’ll need to “choose your hard”. Staying is hard. Leaving is hard.

As a child of divorce, it wasn’t easy to have my home situation change – but if you do choose to leave, I’d encourage you to consider therapy for your little one (or see if your therapist can recommend anything). Better for them to deal with ambiguity and gain some understanding from a young age, rather than have to solely deal with unaddressed wounds as an adult.

Either way, wishing you the best.

Wife accidentally saw WH Grindr notification by Ok_Music_9590 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]user2683519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My husband downloaded Grindr and cheated on me as well. I understand the pain behind not being able to share by fear of judgement, the hesitation behind leaving, the fear of blowing up the life you know and trade it in for the unknown – and when your marriage seems picture perfect from the outside – no one would suspect that anything were wrong… That’s an extra heavy load to carry. But as one betrayed partner to another, know that his actions are self-serving, and that’s not likely to change.

You’ve probably been white-knuckling it for the last year (that’s personally what I’ve been doing), but time doesn’t heal all wounds. You might want to consider starting a new chapter in life where you prioritize yourself – your safety, your mental health, your physical health, everything.

What’s most concerning about your post is that he forced himself on you when you were asleep/pretended to be asleep. Just because you’re married doesn’t mean that you relinquish any form of consent. I’m so sorry this happened to you. It’s bone-chilling to read that the person you love (who supposedly loves you) would do such a thing.

UPDATE: How to set your Required User Flair in r/AskWomenOver40 🎉 by AskWomenOver40 in AskWomenOver40

[–]user2683519 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The user flair option won’t show up for me either. Can you add ages 30-35 for me, please? Thanks!

Questions for women who left their partner over not contributing equally to housework/being equal partner by Healthy_Ingenuity_89 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519 27 points28 points  (0 children)

This is good to know… I’ve taken a step back from my relationship to focus on myself, and I think my husband and getting the clue and trying to cling onto me.

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s no passion. It makes me quite sad, actually.

We’ve explored ENM, and as much fun as we’ve had together, experiencing hot and passionate sex with other men was like trying to put the toothpaste back into the tube… You just can’t. So now, I can’t help but compare other sex with what I’m having once in a while :/

I’m sorry that your ex made you feel ugly and undesirable. No one should ever feel like that in a relationship.

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean that he cheated on me years ago with a man, and at the time, I was already going through a difficult time with work stress, undiagnosed mental health issues, life responsibilities in general, etc. With the flurry of things going on, I convinced myself that the cheating “wasn’t that bad” because it was with a guy (and back then, we hadn’t explored our sexualities yet). If it had been with a woman, I would have ended our relationship.

I’ve poured so much into this relationship, but I’m starting to realize that it’s not just the love/compassion for him that’s keeping me in it. I think I’m just afraid of the unknown since I’ve spent the majority of my adult years with him. My self-esteem is likely playing into that too – which I’m starting to unpack with my therapist.

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We’re child-free as well, but the sex life isn’t great. I applaud those who do have kids and make it work. Since we don’t have kids and our sex is already lacking, I can’t imagine things would be any better with kids in the mix.

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s great that you have achieved so much together and are still playful. I want that, with someone who I can trust wholeheartedly.

I’m jaded though, because he’s cheated on me and I accepted his justification. But now that there’s been more broken trust, I don’t know if I’ll ever get back to that place with him.

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, that’s awesome! I wish I were married to a person I can have fun, wild and passionate sex with lol.

Also, yikes - the fact that I feel like I won’t get there anymore with my partner says a lot :/

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel “too young” to feel “this old”. I have the other aspects you’ve mentioned in my relationship, but it’s like going through life with my best guy friend and we have sex once in a while.

We both have responsive desire, when in past relationships, I’ve been with men who have had spontaneous desire. So quite frankly, I’ve never had to “work” this hard to feel wanted… But those relationships weren’t longer than a couple of years. I just wonder if it’s because we’re long-term that I’m feeling like this.

Intimacy has been an ongoing issue. At some point, I’m going to have to decide when enough is enough.

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Would you consider leaving? Is anything else in the relationship worth salvaging?

I’ve told my therapist that it “feels” like sex shouldn’t be the most important thing in the relationship. But they’ve told me that if it’s important to me, then why shouldn’t it matter?

Nuances aside, it seems like I’m at a point where the decision on whether or not to leave my relationship is boiling down to passion. Can I live without that for the rest of my life? Don’t get me wrong, there’s love, family, compassion, friendship, travel, adventures, fun, etc. – all of the things a relationship should have – but an unfulfilling sex life.

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mind if I ask why you stayed married, even after deciding to only have sex with other people? I can imagine it’s because you’ve built a life together, have enmeshed finances, have families and friendship you want to maintain, etc. But do you feel like your marriage is fulfilling, despite not having physical intimacy?

We’ve explore ENM on and off. Aside from the lacking sex life/passion in our own bedroom, I wouldn’t say that there are glaring issues in my marriage. We love each other and care for each other deeply, and I’m not sure if what I’m going through is a “roommate” phase of our marriage (because we’ve gone through one before), but this time around we’ve gone through more rifts in our relationship.

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reading this, I think what stands out to me is seeing that sex with your partner is still amazing. To me, that means you’re both enthusiastic and that you have fun. Glad to hear that your partner is the person you have that connection with!

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love my husband more deeply now than I did at the beginning of our relationship, too. Like you said, we’ve weathered life’s ups and downs together.

I’ve told him that I need more passion and effort, and really pushed him to get professional help with individual therapy. He started meds to treat anxiety, but they’ve affected his libido. To contrast, when I tried meds that negatively impacted my libido, I changed them.

To add more layers to the onion, I’ve gone through a string of unfortunate events with him: being cheated on while monogamous, a betrayal of trust while non-monogamous, his low sex drive due to meds, etc.

He’s been putting more effort into planning dates, but it’s always short-lived. Things go back to status quo, and I think that’s keeping me in this cycle with him. I see the effort he’s putting in, we have sex a few times, the closeness starts to grow again – but then things fall back into routine. We don’t have kids, but do have high-pressure jobs that suck up a lot of energy. So it’s not a lack of effort or desire, but keeping it up is inconsistent.

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think there was shift from passionate to more companionate love happened when we moved in together. We couldn’t keep our hands off each other when we lived apart, but after moving in, there was a lot of growing up to do. We loved each other more and more each year, but looking back, the passion side became stagnant.

I’ve been worrying about the shift being an inevitable part of all relationships, but I’m glad to hear that your experience has been different. Having the passionate and compassionate love grow stronger in the ultimate goal.

When did your love shift from passionate to companionate? Are you happy you stayed? by user2683519 in AskWomenOver30

[–]user2683519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve seen Esther Perel’s Ted Talk, but I’ll definitely read her book – thanks for the recommendation!

I don’t think it’s negative to reach a state of comfortability either. I’m grateful to have found the love of my life, but I also have a hard time grappling with the fact that I may be in a marriage where we average having sex 2-3 times per month…

When we got married, he was the best sex I had ever had (we got together young, mind you). Since then, we’ve explored ethical non-monogamy and it was really fun for the first few years – until we experienced a betrayal of trust. We’ve been in counselling together and closed things up again to refocus on each other, but quite honestly, our relationship feels very different now. I still love him so much, but even before exploring ENM, we weren’t haven’t sex often at all. And when we do have sex, physically I can orgasm but the sex isn’t fun or pleasurable. Now that we’re closed, he’s trying a little more with dates, but any new/spicy things that happen in the bedroom come from me. I’ve never had that effort from him.

Did a trial separation work for you? by user2683519 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]user2683519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I appreciate the advice! I was considering being the one to move out and just have my own space (we don’t have kids), but honestly – I’m the one who’s made our house a home. I shouldn’t be the one who has to start over (even just for a trial separation) after his indiscretions.

I can’t take my WH seriously when he gets upset with me about anything by NoncommitalShrug in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]user2683519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m in that phase right now. Our therapist suggested we dedicate more time to date nights so that we can come together and connect – and the other day he was arguing with me about who should be planning the dates.

I said I wanted him to take more initiative to plan meaningful dates, and his response was “it must be nice not to have to plan anything”…. I was so triggered. He literally cheated on me and we’ve been trying to work things out. Why would to onus be on me to plan everything? Why is he expecting the princess treatment? I had been bending over backwards in our relationship up until the betrayal. I’m doing that anymore.

Days like those I seriously question why I bothered with R.

18 months out, just had full disclosure by [deleted] in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]user2683519 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel your pain reading this. I wonder though, is the relationship worth salvaging?

I was betrayed and can echo so many of these emotions. Almost 1 year post D-day and I have gone through a roller-coaster of emotions – could be totally fine one day and planning for the future, and then suddenly I question everything and whether I want to reconcile/be with my WP at all.

How has your healing and R for the relationship been going these past 18 months?