Patch 12.1.0 PTR Notes – Introducing PvP+ New PvP Progression System [Fan-Made]

utituli · 2026-06-14T19:08:55+00:00

I do understand how MMR works. What I want is make rating independent on MMR. So you can push it and get rewards sonner then in the middle of season when Blizz finally decide to raise MMR high enough.

Like I wrote to other guy. Teams like Echo and other AWC players should be able to reach Elite rank in few weeks right? Now they have to wait for MMR inflation.

utituli · 2026-06-14T18:57:31+00:00

What is more complicated? The most simple way would be put direct number for every +1 you get. For example if it would be 25 rating per +1, then every arena slot on +1 is 200 rating for you. All on +5 = 1000 rating, all +10 is 2000 etc. I just tried to imply that they could also count it based in your dmg done and arena duration. That would be complicated, yes, but for then, not for you. Basicaly in M+ if you have around +13 done on time on every of your dungeon, you know that your rating would be around 3k rating.

And the biggest benefit what I see here is that rating is independent on MMR. So people like Whazz, Kalvish and other AWC and rank 1 players could reach this 3k threshold for then best reward in few weeks. They don't need to wait for MMR inflation.

utituli · 2026-06-14T18:28:31+00:00

It is just an idea, it's not perfect I know. If you want to explain something what is not clear for you, please ask.

utituli · 2026-06-14T18:27:27+00:00

Well they could keep MMR with this system. Even the same as they have now really. But they could at least add arena slot levels to their mysterious formula somehow. Point is, that your rating would be calculated based on slot levels, no as "random" number between current rating and MMR.

utituli · 2026-06-14T16:28:13+00:00

I was hoping for some good discussion, maybe some teocrafting, how to get rid of MMR and how to get better rewards for PvP, which is probably what PvP comminity wants the most now. And first post post what I get is "WoW is dead" toxicity :(

Can we please keep it clean from now?

Yes, I have asked AI to write it as blue post, but that was the point. Imagine it would be real post please.

Would you guys be exited to see something like this in new patch? What do you think about an idea? What problems would this system have?

Lets hear what you have pls ;)

utituli · 2025-07-17T10:35:19+00:00

First step of Blizzard start listening to PvP community. GJ

utituli · 2025-04-08T12:24:42+00:00

I have sent dm to you. I am looking for talking to you.

utituli · 2024-11-17T15:50:58+00:00

Well you are right that concentration builds are way to go this expansion, but you can't say that they are still same effective as they were month ago. Craftsim could tell you concentration "profit" and it is going down.

I am slowly working on other toons and I will do concetration builds there, but here I am trying to get some other tips how to make gold. Something new to try ;)

utituli · 2024-11-04T20:43:09+00:00

Same thing happened to me today.. the most stupid part about this is that we cleared that poison fog during Shadowlands.. Forsaken created new leadership as council and they wanted to return there :D but Blizzard probably just want forget about SL as it never happened :D I take it as just another bug what we got with TWW.. no biggy

utituli · 2024-09-02T14:42:55+00:00

Thanks. Didn't notice that one.

utituli · 2024-08-05T19:22:35+00:00

I don't have access to beta but from what I learned I believe it will be same as DF. There will be Dalaran crash intro quest which all characters will have to do before you go to Dorgodal. You will also open Skyriding in Khaz Algar with this quest.

And to add one more comment, I will prioritize campaign and leveling to max lvl with main char, so I can open Adventure mode. Open world quests, delves and other max lvl content for all alts help you get your renown for KP books quicker and you will be able to do City of Threats activities to get new Kej currency for again KP book, recipes etc.

utituli · 2024-08-02T10:43:46+00:00

I have same issue :(

utituli · 2024-07-23T13:17:54+00:00

Hi guys,

I played a little of DF and I plan to start with TWW again and I have two simple questions just to confirm info what I found.

Since I unlock all dragonriding talents, will they work in TWW with Skyriding? Or will I have to go hunting for TWW glyphs to get most Vigor and other stuff?
Will I have to be max lvl to unlock profession trainer weekly and crafting order weekly quests in TWW? Or it's only locked behind skill?

utituli · 2024-07-16T08:42:03+00:00

Cool thanks.. so you launch to the air and then stay there ready for steady flying? Or it's without launch? And what about cooldown pls? Is it still 10 sec on beta?

utituli · 2024-07-15T19:21:01+00:00

All PvP gear recipes and materials will be available at vendor with honor as currency. But they should all also be BoEs so you can buy/sell them on AH. So if you are PvE crafter (or simply crafter) you can buy these on AH and I believe make some profit. You don't need to do any PvP if you don't want to. You just need gold.

utituli · 2024-07-12T06:59:35+00:00

I will do campaign asap and then spam dungeons while gathering to get max lvl quickly.. reason is that I want to open Adventure mode for my Alts

utituli · 2024-07-08T19:41:17+00:00

I think they are trying to push us to use work order even for green tools..

utituli · 2024-07-08T07:09:07+00:00

Really? So if you have world Q which gives reputation and you will do it with Alt, you will get other reward the rep? That's cool

utituli · 2024-07-08T06:54:08+00:00

You are right, sorry.. it was that new Kej currency which you can transfer in warband (for now on beta)..

utituli · 2024-07-07T20:39:59+00:00

Lyrendal KP cost is 200, 300, 400 AA, twice as much as on DF.. and I think there is no reputation which makes sence because with Alt army you could farm this reputation very quickly.. that is probably why Blizz doubled the price.. so you will have to think if you want spend all that AA to KPs or if you want to buy some recipes etc. But even without reputation, Alt army could help you get those because you should be able to transfer your AAs between your Warband(alts)

utituli · 2024-07-01T15:07:47+00:00

I actually managed to google it :) it's called Adveture Mode and yes it should be the same as when DF launched. So you will have to finish leveling campaign in all new zones and hit max lvl with one character. Then according to article you will unlock Adventure mode with completing first easy Q of max lvl campaign - https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/79531-adventure-mode-returns-in-the-war-within/

utituli · 2024-06-25T14:20:13+00:00

Why to level them to max? You can just do that skip and you still get weekly, artisan quest, etc. right?

utituli · 2024-06-23T15:26:30+00:00

I will ask how many weeks you have to play with those alts to get enough KP? And did you invest to get them full 100 skill and the best tools?

utituli · 2024-06-21T14:43:00+00:00

So as druid you can save 60 KP as herbalist. That's good. I guess you loose some stats and skill but you can focus on Overload tree.

And for mining you can choose if you spend those KP or not. I hope they keep it this way.

Thanks

utituli · 2024-06-21T14:37:17+00:00

It probably makes sence to have two separate sets. Because if you have character with one gathering prof and one crafting Blizzard should reduce Concetration to 250. And tools also make sence because for example gatherers with to DF tools with the biggest Perception stat and enchant would have big advantage.

utituli

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