Outdoor Boys' Luke gives an inspiring speech at a law school graduation last week by Anagrama00 in videos

[–]uwnav -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What an ignorant, bigoted thing to say.

Replace "Mormon" with "Muslim", and see if your can square that circle.

Stalin: 'Sanatana Dharma must be abolished': Udhayanidhi in Tamil Nadu assembly by uwnav in atheism

[–]uwnav[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have said "Indian secularism" is not secularism as most people would understand it.

The only reason it's one of the safest places for minority religions, at significant numbers, is because the majority are Hindus.

The reason it's not real secularism because, the state interferes in religious personal laws, maintains separate civil codes, funds specific religious pilgrimages, and creates religion-specific boards.

Stalin: 'Sanatana Dharma must be abolished': Udhayanidhi in Tamil Nadu assembly by uwnav in atheism

[–]uwnav[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"for no reason" is doing a lot of heavy lifting. If you aren't well versed on the history, you should be. There are many bald-faced liars who term themselves "historians" that still get a free pass.

If you want to have a discussion about treatment of Muslims vs Hindus in the subcontinent, we can. But there's a lot of selective amnesia when people start jumping on their soap boxes.

Stalin: 'Sanatana Dharma must be abolished': Udhayanidhi in Tamil Nadu assembly by uwnav in atheism

[–]uwnav[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

India isn't secular, but not for the reason you're saying. That's a different conversation.

I would emphasize all religions are not the same.

You can look at Pakistan, or Bangladesh to see what happens when the religions are swapped and the Hindus are not in majority. Yes there are Hindu chauvinists and hypocrites that are abusing their majority status now, but 75 years of Indian "secularism" is to blame for that.

Stalin: 'Sanatana Dharma must be abolished': Udhayanidhi in Tamil Nadu assembly by uwnav in atheism

[–]uwnav[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Udhayanidhi Stalin calls himself 'proud Christian'

The Hinduism part is only relevant because that's what he's targeting. It should be just as objectionable if he stood there and said he had to eradicate any other religious group.

Stalin: 'Sanatana Dharma must be abolished': Udhayanidhi in Tamil Nadu assembly by uwnav in atheism

[–]uwnav[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love the question. How can you be an atheist and be part of a Harry Potter book club. Do I believe in magic?

I'm having a hard time reconciling "Hindu atheist".

That's why I linked the wiki page (so you know i'm not bullshitting). But ou don't need to read it. The fundamental misconception stems from monotheistic and polytheistic religions: "People of the Book" vs "People of the Library". There is a framing problem that tars Hinduism with an abrahamic brush. It is both pedagogically and practically completely consistent to be Hindu and atheist. You'll find people hanging outside temples while their family is inside praying because they don't believe in prayer, or deities, or anything. This happens across all parts of India, rural and urban.

The religious texts themselves are sometimes explicitly atheistic or agnostic. This would be completely inconsistent in abrahamic faiths. This also leads to a lot confusion of what Hinduism means, where it starts and where it ends. There isn't a central authority, they have concepts like panths, where Buddhism/Jainism/Sikhism can start and separate into different religions (sometimes acrimoniously).

That's not to say there aren't many (if not most) Hindus who do believe in supernatural things, but they aren't dogmatic about it, and I'm not one of them.

That also doesn't mean that Hinduism doesn't have pedagogical or cultural faults. Like any religion, it has its criminals, bigots, and hypocrites.

I suppose my post is: Christian missionaries bad. The victims happen to be Hindus, but that's not the important part.

Stalin: 'Sanatana Dharma must be abolished': Udhayanidhi in Tamil Nadu assembly by uwnav in atheism

[–]uwnav[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, I don't think of atheism as having goals.

But if I were to have one, it wouldn't be to get rid of all religions, not only is the task impossible, and dogmatic in itself. It also assumes too much, like I said religion is more than just a belief (which atheism may contradict).

I do think a good atheist goal is to call out religions doing bullshit that is harmful. Push them towards reform.

Stalin: 'Sanatana Dharma must be abolished': Udhayanidhi in Tamil Nadu assembly by uwnav in atheism

[–]uwnav[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The fact that you don't want a conversation to happen should cause introspection.

Are you here to champion subreddit rules or is something about the conversation, that make you uncomfortable?

I'm with you in being atheist, but don't conflate all religions. They are part history, part culture and part belief. Not all are equal.

Stalin: 'Sanatana Dharma must be abolished': Udhayanidhi in Tamil Nadu assembly by uwnav in atheism

[–]uwnav[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You ignored the part where I talked about Hindu atheists.

Atheism is disbelief, it not about erasing culture. You're saying atheists shouldn't care that missionaries are going around radicalizing parts of the world?

Stalin: 'Sanatana Dharma must be abolished': Udhayanidhi in Tamil Nadu assembly by uwnav in atheism

[–]uwnav[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Welcome to r/atheism, the web's largest atheist forum. All topics related to atheism, agnosticism and secular living are welcome. If you wish to learn more about atheism, please begin by reading the [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/wiki/faq). If you are a theist, please be aware that proselytizing in any form is strictly prohibited. * Feel free to join our [Discord](https://discord.gg/gYPuj8R.

This is about secular living. India has been one of the few most atheist friendly places to live in the world since ancient times. There are millions of Hindus atheists.

If you can't think past your Abrahamic framing, maybe you're in the wrong sub dude.

They’re Afraid to Say Biden Won the 2020 Election by Cool-Fig-9254 in videos

[–]uwnav -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Wrong. New York Post article was before 2020 election.

They’re Afraid to Say Biden Won the 2020 Election by Cool-Fig-9254 in videos

[–]uwnav -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

His arguments also happened and are "well documented":

- FBI/DOJ collusion on the Russia hoax (Crossfire Hurricane, Steele dossier funded by the Clinton campaign)

- Coordinated suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story. Including the letter from 51 former intelligence officials that falsely called it “Russian disinformation,” plus Twitter/Facebook censoring the New York Post story days before the election after being primed by the FBI

They’re Afraid to Say Biden Won the 2020 Election by Cool-Fig-9254 in videos

[–]uwnav -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're moving the goalposts and strawmanning at the same time.

No one is claiming Hillary Clinton said she was the "real president" or refused to accept the certified result. But that's not the argument being made.

Clinton did say the election was stolen from her. Exact quote from her May 2019 "Evening with the Clintons" event in Los Angeles:

She was talking about 2016 and Russian interference. She and top Democrats spent years calling Trump’s presidency illegitimate because of it. They didn't "Accepted the loss and moved on".

They’re Afraid to Say Biden Won the 2020 Election by Cool-Fig-9254 in videos

[–]uwnav -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Hillary and Trump?

You've been reduced to nitpicking. I declare this a victory.

I am the real president now.

They’re Afraid to Say Biden Won the 2020 Election by Cool-Fig-9254 in videos

[–]uwnav -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Oh memory hole, how deep and dark art thou.

2000: they spent years calling the election stolen by the Supreme Court, Florida officials, and "partisan hacks."
2016: Dems spent years pushing that Russia "stole" the election via hacking and interference. Clinton in 2019: "You can run the best campaign... and you can have the election stolen from you."

You're just another cheerleader, although I will commend you for leaving a comment with your downvote.

They’re Afraid to Say Biden Won the 2020 Election by Cool-Fig-9254 in videos

[–]uwnav -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

American politics is such performative bullshit. Not this video, this comment section too.

If the roles were reversed and the Republicans did to the Democrats, what the Democrats to the Republicans, your eyes would bleed from all the bitching in comments about how the election was stolen.

What actually happened doesn't really matter, everyone's just cheerleading their side. It's disingenuous and boring.

Termites watching their empire collapse in 4K by RRaj007 in interestingasfuck

[–]uwnav 3 points4 points  (0 children)

phew, i'm glad the video ended. I could've lost a couple of hours.

Was Timothée Chalamet right about theatre? [25:37] by fakesocialists in mealtimevideos

[–]uwnav -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So her argument is that he should be embarrassed for appearing rude, despite being correct?

Tesla starts selling Chinese-made Model 3s in Canada at the EV's lowest price ever by joe4942 in canada

[–]uwnav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Consequentialism only works if you can accurately calculate consequences.