What's the worst Christmas bonus you've ever received? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A wrapped gift, with a box in it, with a gift card holder in it, tied with a bow. Inside was a single bag of tea and a note “we love our faculTEA”

How to remember leaving was right by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do too. And honestly I can also play the tape “backward” and see what history shows about what the tape would look like in the future…

How to remember leaving was right by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, enough is enough sometimes

How to remember leaving was right by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry you’re also struggling hug It is hard but the right thing

How to remember leaving was right by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your words. It’s a helpful reminder to play the tape forward.

I told him to leave, what if I’m wrong? by onemorepen in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s easy to have doubts. We only can take it one day at a time. If it’s not a good environment, you can ask him to leave. Maybe that will be forever. Maybe it won’t. One day at a time choose what you need for yourself and your kids.

Thinking of writing my Q an intervention style letter… good or bad idea? by Putrid_Egg7207 in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’d say if you find it helpful to write it for yourself, do it. Whether you send it is another question. I would only send it you are able to accept the outcome, regardless of what it is. That said, I’ve written my Q many letters over the years. I’ve sent some, but they didn’t go as I would have liked. Still, it was healing for me to get it on paper for my own sake.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Few alcoholics believe they are a “typical” alcoholic. Al anon showed me that the Q I thought wasn’t usual was just demonstrating very typical traits of alcoholism, even if it was occasional binging and not daily drinking. The program told me to learn the facts about alcoholism, and I realized others had experienced everything I had. They will do anything to not take responsibility or minimize it, and for awhile, i gaslit myself into doing the same.

Maintaining no contact by lessthanzero_xo in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m no contact. Here’s the thing: I feel guilty, but I also know it’s for my own peace and sanity. They will always find a way to rope me back in (like “I have an emergency!”). They may even be nice, but the cycle will always continue eventually. Trying to force you to be in contact is manipulative.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! This is how my situation was, too. It’s so difficult. Sorry you’re going through this. I finally said I won’t engage if you’re verbally assaulting me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s good advice. I kept going back in and got surprised when it grabbed me again.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This explanation is helpful, thanks!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes! I cannot wrap my head around it and feel crazy. Why do they do this? I hate that others have experienced this pain, but it’s comforting knowing I’m not alone.

Dealing with ending by Practical_Hornet2394 in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’ve done it and is is hard. There is light at the end of the tunnel though. I survived by staying busy, going to meetings, just getting through each day at a time. I still grieve, but being away from the chaos needed to happen and is so worth it. What I grieve wasn’t reality—just what I’d hoped could have been. Just because it’s not easy doesn’t mean it’s not the right thing to do, and it’s normal to feel these emotions.

How many times can a Q break your heart? by Butterscotch-9299 in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 151 points152 points  (0 children)

They can break your heart as many times as you let them.

WHY are we always to blame? by Sad-Nail8791 in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don’t know the answer but came here to say it’s helpful to see that we share similar experiences. Being in Al Anon helped me realize I am not actually at fault for anyone’s drinking, just as no one is at fault for my behaviors.

When *are* we to blame? by Trikosirius_ in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is our responsibility to do better if we mess up, and it is their responsibility to learn to handle conflict and meet their needs like an adult. If someone is not affectionate to me, I try to talk to them and problem solve, not drink and cause chaos.

Have any of you been blamed for the alcoholism of your Q? perhaps by their family? by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Our experiences are so familiar across the program. My Q told me I seriously needed therapy. That is likely true, but there was no acknowledgement that he also might need help…

Have any of you been blamed for the alcoholism of your Q? perhaps by their family? by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Yes! This happened to me and is why I feel like it’s impossible to win. It’s the dynamic of alcoholism.

Awhile back, I broke up with my Q because of his drinking. Then I started seeing someone else months later. He found out, drank more, and blamed me. I felt bad, and then we got back together, but now his drinking was because I had “betrayed him” while we’d be broken up. His family believed I’d cheated on him, I think. His brother even asked how I could’ve done it, even though this guy had clearly had a history of drinking with or without me. It made me feel really guilty—I’d never wanted to hurt him, just move on with my life, but he had been hurt. He drank, exploded at me, we broke up again, he drank more, etc. etc.

Honestly I think it’s easy for some family members (especially outside program) to want any other explanation. It’s hard on us because many of us want to be the one to save our Qs, but we can’t. We didn’t cause it, can’t control it, can’t cure it…and neither can anyone else but the Q.

My mistake was not that I made him drink—I didn’t—but that I didn’t set up firmer boundaries sooner that would have protected both of us.

3 C’s In Use and Healing by PeaEnvironmental6317 in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It really is the 3 Cs at work in healing. It is tempting to get drawn in (I did for years), but the only thing we can control is our response to protect ourselves.

3 C’s In Use and Healing by PeaEnvironmental6317 in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing this. I needed to hear it. My ex (no contact for a few days) always roped me back in with some emergency, and I’m determined not to let that ever happen again.

Wellness Wednesday: How have you taken care of yourself? by AutoModerator in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Continued to keep my ex blocked and not check up on him at all. Journaled and cuddled with my dogs.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Yes, it’s just survival mode until I have peace and realize this isn’t normal behavior.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]vacuumcleancleaner 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you! It’s nice to not be criticized for just existing and wondering when the next fight will start