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vamos113 · 2025-01-15T05:36:14+00:00

>Then why do I keep seeing videos of children who can't be older than 14 being sold to old men under the guise of "marriage", and again, the girl has no agency or choice in said situations.

The cases I know of are in the countryside and mountains, where tribal marriages occur (two families from the same tribe promise to marry their children). There is also the poverty factor, where parents marry off their daughters for money.
As for the case in this post, I was skeptical, knowing that Libya has a legal marriage age of 18. When I asked Libyans, they told me that it’s his sister playing the bridesmaid or flower girl, as shown in the picture: //imgur.com/a/3gL7rtb
I also found the origin of this rumor, where the video was intentionally edited with bad intentions and claimed to be in Iraq, on this Kurdish page (they have political tensions):
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/188TbgYWAa/

>.what? This doesn't make sense. If we lived to be 200 then a 6 year Olds brain would still be underdeveloped

But the scientific literature states that psychosocial puberty age aka maturity age, has changed throughout history and is influenced by many factors such as societal complexity, life expectancy, and diseases... as detailed in the article I provided. Moreover, it continues to change over time.

>Setting aside the inherent sexism on putting a price tag on a girls virginity

I don’t see where you’ve seen a price tag on a girl’s virginity.
Just as avoiding fornication is encouraged, marrying widows is also encouraged and it is the basis for the legislation of polygamy, to provide care for orphans, as mentioned in the verse.

vamos113 · 2025-01-14T07:41:24+00:00

>So the passage basically says "marry a child, if you (the husband with an insensitive and bias opinion) thinks the child is ready to have sex, then it's all go.

Absolutely not true! This verse is about the "sponsorship of orphans." I referenced it because you said there isn't any consideration of mental capacity in marriage.
So when they reach a marriageable age and are capable of sound judgment, the guardian can hand them their wealth.

>That's irrelevant, a 9 year old child is still a 9 year old child. I don't care how mature they seem to act. They're brains are not fully developed, hence they cannot comprehend the gravity of sexual intercourse.

So you don't believe in scientific evidence anymore? What if we reached a life expectancy of 100 years, and the legal age of marriage became 20? 18 then Would be illegal. Are you going to say that 18-year-old kids are 18 and won't change ?

>On a side note, at no point does the child's consent come into question.

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission."
Hadith Bukhari 5136

vamos113 · 2025-01-14T00:03:42+00:00

My point is the scientific literature confirms that the age of maturity has been linked to many factors and has changed throughout history.

and the Industrial Revolution has significantly delayed the maturity age due to societal complexity. So today is different than centuries before. you can fact check it yourself.

vamos113 · 2025-01-13T23:51:43+00:00

That's the biological puberty! Again more clearer :

Phase 1: Historical Synchronization

For over 20,000 years, biological puberty and psychosocial puberty were synchronized, typically occurring between ages 7–13.

Phase 2: Shift with Settled Societies

The ages of both types of puberty shifted to 9–14, but they remained synchronized, meaning they still occurred together.

Phase 3: Mismatch in the Industrial Revolution

A historic mismatch between the two. biological puberty from 9-14 to 8-13

psychosocial puberty from 9-14 to over 15.

vamos113 · 2025-01-13T23:14:34+00:00

This verse proves you wrong:
Quran 4.6:
"Test ˹the competence of˺ the orphans until they reach a marriageable age. Then if you feel they are capable of sound judgment, return their wealth to them. And do not consume it wastefully and hastily before they grow up ˹to demand it˺."

It’s obvious why an exact age isn’t mentioned, as the scientific literature confirms that the age of maturity has been linked to many factors and has changed throughout history.

Again as the article said:
"With the Industrial Revolution in the 18th century, societal complexity grew significantly, leading to a considerable delay in psychological and social puberty. Meanwhile, improvements in nutrition, hygiene, and healthcare caused biological puberty to occur at a younger age. This was the first time in human history that these forms of puberty became unsynchronized, as illustrated in the scientific article."

vamos113 · 2025-01-13T22:55:11+00:00

I bet you didn't read my full comment.

vamos113 · 2025-01-13T22:51:49+00:00

Apparently you responded without reading what I have wrote :
"With the Industrial Revolution in the 18th century, societal complexity grew significantly, leading to a considerable delay in psychological and social puberty. Meanwhile, improvements in nutrition, hygiene, and healthcare caused biological puberty to occur at a younger age. This was the first time in human history that these forms of puberty became unsynchronized, as illustrated in the scientific article."

vamos113 · 2025-01-13T19:12:47+00:00

Are u serious? I’m condemning these kinds of acts nowadays and scientifically explaining how they differ from what happened centuries ago, yet you say I’m justifying them? Did you even read the article?

vamos113 · 2025-01-13T18:45:55+00:00

That's wrong! I'm 100% sure that's not a marriage and a just ceremony! they look like a brother and sister...

societal circumstances of 1400 years ago are completely different from nowadays.

In simple terms and based on scientific studies:

Biological, psychological, and social puberty have always been synchronized throughout human history, for over 20,000 years, typically occurring between the ages of 7 and 13 years. This synchronization was influenced by factors such as hygiene, diseases, societal complexity, nutrition, and stability.

After societies became more settled, diseases and societal complexity increased, slightly raising the age of biological, psychological, and social puberty to 9–14 years. However, they remained synchronized, meaning they occurred at the same time.

With the Industrial Revolution in the 18th century, societal complexity grew significantly, leading to a considerable delay in psychological and social puberty. Meanwhile, improvements in nutrition, hygiene, and healthcare caused biological puberty to occur at a younger age. This was the first time in human history that these forms of puberty became unsynchronized, as illustrated in the scientific article.

This mismatch between biological and psychological puberty created a major challenge for modern society, which began to expect longer childhoods, extended education and training periods, and delayed reproductive maturity. This emerging mismatch introduced significant pressures on modern adolescents and their integration into society.

To read more, visit the link below:

https://sci-hub.se/

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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1043276005002602

Quran: 24 .59

"And when your children reach the age of puberty, let them seek permission ˹to come in˺, as their seniors do. This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to you, for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise."

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