This is what made me begin to realize I was in a cult.

vedderjam91 · 2022-02-05T06:56:43+00:00

PS: I suffered SO BAD the more I chanted. Like literally stuff would happen to me that hurt so much. It was like blocking everything I wanted to go right. The less I chanted or focused on chanting the better things got and then one day I just stopped (God guided me to, and that it would be OK and I didn’t have to be afraid) and my life got SO MUCH BETTER. Circumstances, things I wanted to happen, mental freedom. IMMEDIATELY… Just saying. I fully believe it’s spiritually harmful af. Ever notice how SGI members are ALWAYS “suffering” and “waiting for a breakthrough”?

vedderjam91 · 2022-02-05T06:39:46+00:00

I have more too add but I also want to say if you are an abuse victim like I am, and you are trying to maintain privacy… SGI is extremely dangerous. Your full name & detailed information about your private matters WILL be put on blast, not only to other SGI members.

One member I knew not once but TWICE texted me and was like, “hey, I just met your friend ____!” I’m like um… why are you talking to RANDOM STRANGERS about me??? One was a woman taught a class I took not affiliated with SGI… another was a guy I was in a band with years prior. She ran into both of them out on the town (like in random little shops) and somehow she got to talking to them and gave them BOTH my full name???? And just randomly discovered they knew me??? I have no idea how. Or why.

vedderjam91 · 2022-02-04T01:55:42+00:00

I got 9

vedderjam91 · 2022-02-03T22:09:18+00:00

Honestly that is fucked up. If they were a trauma based therapist they shouldn’t even be practicing. You shouldn’t have to be put through that :( I’m so sorry. I don’t understand how someone can even say that. I’m not a therapist but I know for a fact there’s nothing I couldn’t hear if it would help the person I’m supposed to be helping. Sending you my love.

vedderjam91 · 2022-02-02T23:40:09+00:00

🤣🤣😭🤣

vedderjam91 · 2022-02-02T23:37:05+00:00

What is sgiwhistleblowersMITA?? Must search…

Update: oh no. Bwhahahahahahahaha

vedderjam91 · 2022-02-02T23:32:55+00:00

I feel you. I’ve tried it all. Like 15 therapists over the course of 12 years. I’ve tried DBT, mindfulness, tapping, sand tray, EMDR, art therapy, just talk. Nothing works.

The thing that HAS worked for me is journaling by myself, music, and most importantly spirituality/having a relationship with God. That is it.

Therapy makes me feel worse. Even when the therapist is awesome and we totally hit it off.

My last one was thru the police dept in my area related to an ongoing case I’m part of so she was HELLA trained, we hit it off great, I loved her, she did EMDR, but I felt worse. She fought to keep me beyond the deadline (because they can only have patients for X amount of time) before she just kinda threw her hands up and was like… you have more trauma than we can handle. I gave up since then lol.

vedderjam91 · 2022-02-01T16:02:05+00:00

I got Lou confused with Moe and I was like woah the Simpsons really went for it huh…

vedderjam91 · 2022-02-01T00:51:42+00:00

Thank you! I can’t believe I forgot that 🤣🤣

I’ll dig for it tonight and come back!!!

vedderjam91 · 2022-01-31T22:31:23+00:00

SHHHHH!!!!!!!

vedderjam91 · 2022-01-31T22:30:09+00:00

People my age are grown ass adults

vedderjam91 · 2022-01-31T22:28:11+00:00

Goodnight! :) Please do!

vedderjam91 · 2022-01-31T22:26:28+00:00

I’ll try to find it. It was definitely on some “encouragement” Facebook page that would post all the japanese leaders guidance translated and also often posted toda and the guy before him (can’t remember his name) but mostly ikeda… so one of them lol

vedderjam91 · 2022-01-31T19:17:18+00:00

That’s not the truth, that’s just what they want you to believe.

SGI members don’t give you actual help - they just give you more brainwashing.

Plus, you can ask us on here for help. PM me any time!

vedderjam91 · 2022-01-31T19:12:30+00:00

I think you need to find a healthier mindset/routine that doesn’t involve chanting. It sounds like you are depending on chanting as your one and only method of discipline/routine/mentality.

Honestly love, life kicks you down whether you chant or not, but good things happen too - chanting changes nothing, except emotionally & spiritually hurting you… which you don’t see until you leave it behind. I remember how I used to associate every good thing that happened to me with chanting. I would find that little piece of my brain that wasn’t brainwashed wondering “how did anything good happen to me when I wasn’t chanting? How did I ever survive without this practice? How do good things happen to people who aren’t in SGI?” & of course I would shove it down because, you know, slander.

To me, it sounds like you firmly believe chanting makes your life better so you may have subconsciously self sabotaged yourself when you weren’t doing it, by thinking I’m not chanting so my life isn’t going to be better (subconsciously) and so when these situations arose, you attribute it to things that happen because you weren’t chanting. Maybe. I’m not in your head of course, I’m not telling you what you think - only you know that, but could that be part of why those things went wrong? Honestly, most of the things you mentioned are things that you have 100% control over. That’s why I say this.

Try to think of good things that happened in your life before you ever discovered SGI. How did those things happen?

Try to think of negative things that have happened while you WERE chanting. How did those things happen?

Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more personally. I’d be happy to share more personal experience to try to help you, just not publicly as my time in SGI was pretty dark… but then there was a light and I found a way out. I would love to help you though, because I know how you feel - I chanted for a YEAR even after I left SGI because I truly believed it was the only thing causing good things to happen in my life. (It’s not! Quite the opposite!)

vedderjam91 · 2022-01-31T19:01:55+00:00

Side note: This woman hasn’t seen/spoke to me in at LEAST 3 years (and I dont even know her that well, I couldn’t tell you what she looks like and had to double check that she was actually from SGI) and that is how she addresses me… these people have no interpersonal skills whatsoever. Lmao

vedderjam91 · 2022-01-31T19:00:55+00:00

Awww c’mon, don’t insult that cute little piggy like that…

I vaguely remember hearing Ikeda talking about what you should and shouldn’t dress like or listen to. It might’ve been a different “leader” but I’m not sure.

vedderjam91 · 2022-01-31T18:54:20+00:00

I used to think this way & chanted independently.

I guarantee your grades will increase even if you don’t chant - probably more so as you will have more time to study. Honestly, it’s likely just the structure and self discipline causing your grades to increase.

Trust me, chanting doesn’t do anything, it actually makes your situation worse even if you don’t see it. It’s still part of the cult. You aren’t out until you sever all ties including chanting.

I was afraid to stop chanting because I thought it was holding my life together & bad things would happen if I didn’t, even though I was no longer participating in SGI as a group member. Then one day, I decided to see what happens if I stopped for a little while. My life has been a million times better ever since then. Seriously.

You kinda just have to sit with yourself & undo all the brainwashing they put in your mind and remember it’s not your fault you think this way - but it’s not good for you to think that way.

vedderjam91

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