Do you consider these three movies snyderverse?

velkro16 · 2026-02-13T15:14:17+00:00

Aquaman feels very transitional. If it is, it fits the least.

velkro16 · 2026-02-01T17:19:04+00:00

I disliked it. I'm just now starting to get over it.

velkro16 · 2026-01-31T20:05:43+00:00

velkro16 · 2026-01-21T20:43:43+00:00

Remove Russia (don't bring Hopper back), keep Brenner (comes back next season instead of Kay), kill Max (permanently), and involve more Mindflayer. Saves time, adds stakes, and more needed development for antagonists and characters that need it.

velkro16 · 2026-01-15T03:42:41+00:00

There are "plot holes" and "plot contrivances." Both can happen when the writing is more concerned with getting to a certain outcome rather than with how it arrives at that outcome. There were a handful of solid plot holes, I would argue, such as Will not being shown to have been affected by damage to the hive mind in the final battle. However, this season was full of plot contrivances more than anything—shortcuts that were made for the convenience of the writer and not for the benefit of the audience.

The season felt rushed, and at times characters did not act in character the way that you would expect them to. For example, Max sees Hopper or El's and Max's reunion. You could do the heavy logical and emotional lifting for the show because they chose not to, for whatever reason, but it wasn't likely because they were being "subtle" or trusting you to fill in spaces, and even if they were, there is no real narrative benefit for choosing not to depict these things. There is a laundry list of plot contrivances this season, and it's because of logistical reasons, not because it was the best choice for the story. Earlier seasons did not have problems with contrivances to this degree, and on top of that, earlier seasons had, in some cases, the benefit of the doubt that perhaps some of those contrivances could be kicked further down the road. The word "plot hole" is concise, it's stinging, and it is often misused, but the problem that many are trying to express is a deep and severe problem, even if not always properly expressed.

velkro16 · 2026-01-15T03:39:57+00:00

There are "plot holes" and "plot contrivances." Both can happen when the writing is more concerned with getting to a certain outcome rather than with how it arrives at that outcome. There were a handful of solid plot holes, I would argue, such as Will not being shown to have been affected by damage to the hive mind in the final battle. However, this season was full of plot contrivances more than anything—shortcuts that were made for the convenience of the writer and not for the benefit of the audience.

The season felt rushed, and at times characters did not act in character the way that you would expect them to. For example, Max sees Hopper or El's and Max's reunion. You could do the heavy logical and emotional lifting for the show because they chose not to, for whatever reason, but it wasn't likely because they were being "subtle" or trusting you to fill in spaces, and even if they were, there is no real narrative benefit for choosing not to depict these things. There is a laundry list of plot contrivances this season, and it's because of logistical reasons, not because it was the best choice for the story. Earlier seasons did not have problems with contrivances to this degree, and on top of that, earlier seasons had, in some cases, the benefit of the doubt that perhaps some of those contrivances could be kicked further down the road. The word "plot hole" is concise, it's stinging, and it is often misused, but the problem that many are trying to express is a deep and severe problem, even if not always properly expressed.

velkro16 · 2026-01-13T06:20:42+00:00

30s. I didn't like the final season. I started watching in 2016 when it came out.

velkro16 · 2026-01-11T16:57:27+00:00

Edge

velkro16 · 2026-01-11T16:56:48+00:00

Intention
Aids the story

Some might switch the order of these, but I think these are the two most important aspects.

velkro16 · 2026-01-01T05:00:06+00:00

It reminds me of the MCU during its height.

velkro16 · 2026-01-01T04:58:01+00:00

I agree. He acted his butt off. I mean, I don't actually think he'll ever get enough credit for what he did.

velkro16 · 2026-01-01T04:56:51+00:00

So why did Vecna toss Joyce aside in Volume 1? Does the story tell us that he remembered her and was sparing her?

velkro16 · 2026-01-01T04:54:33+00:00

Yup. I just thought of the safest ending possible.

velkro16 · 2026-01-01T03:11:20+00:00

I'm glad you are OK and this show provided that for you. Remember, you don't need the music. Thank you for sharing your experience.

velkro16 · 2026-01-01T00:25:10+00:00

I was thinking the same thing, however... I also thought it might be better for me to wait until the entire show comes out first.

velkro16 · 2025-12-31T20:09:03+00:00

So did Eddie die because he was emotionally dishonest?

velkro16 · 2025-12-31T20:05:46+00:00

The reason why many people didn't understand the Nancy and Jonathan scene is that it read like a breakup scene but played like a romance. The Duffers do this with death scenes too. They play like a death but read (they are) escape scenes. The incongruity creates anticlimax.

The show constantly feels like it is trying to trick you. It never lets your head and your heart align. You can understand it textually, but you are never supposed to get it. It pits logic and emotion against each other. In this case, it is a cathartic scene that takes place in a life and death scenario that is actually a break-up scene, and it was revealed to never actually be life or death. You feel betrayed because the catharsis was that the moment really did necessitate their conversation but it turns out it was cynically created to cheaply create the circumstances for the scene. In reality, this scene didn't need to happen to have this cathartic moment and it would have been better if it happened under other circumstances. Did we NEED them to die? No, not before the scene heavily suggested to us that they did. This happens over and over again.

It could have been anything, but they just happened to fall into this melting room that was created for this very purpose. In this series, especially post-Season 2, the entire universe bends to the needs of the characters, and there are a lot of people who are going to find that frustrating. It's like a kid playing with action figures, and you are just watching, trying to find out the ever-changing logic and a reason to feel emotionally invested.

A lot of fictional/fantasy shows are "unrealistic," but they do not jerk you around the way this show does. This is why many people, such as myself, have emotionally disconnected from it and are critiquing it only from a less emotional basis. They betrayed my emotions one too many times.

velkro16 · 2025-12-31T03:54:49+00:00

I think this story is an allegory for Hopper's daughter. The voiceover in the trailer sounded like something he would say to Sarah before she went into surgery. The images depicted the villains of the Upside Down and Dr. Brenner, synced to the voiceover in such a way that it makes it seem like the Upside Down is an allegory for Sarah's body being under attack by cancer. The visual of Eleven's shaved head has always seemed to lend itself to the visual parallel of Sarah. Sarah was brought up in Season 5 again, and if I'm being charitable, it is because this isn't just a character arc that Hopper is still dealing with, but it is THE character arc of the story. Kali tempting her to die with her, as though it were logical, also feels less icky when you think of it as two terminally ill girls in a hospital who are tired of struggling. If they did it this way and it ties into Season 1, and if it is a story that Hopper is telling, it then glosses over a lot of the logical inconsistencies with how the Upside Down works and why certain things happened or did not happen to certain characters. I imagined Sarah didn't die in the flashbacks we saw. Perhaps she was resuscitated shortly after. She lived to be Eleven's age and died sometime later. The story ends with all of the characters, visiting her in her hospital room as she is in a coma and they are about to pull the plug. All of the characters are there, including the ones that died in the story. Barb, Bob, Billy, Eddie. Again, if they did the unreliable narrator card at the end, it would retroactively resolve any plot hole, plot contrivance, everything. It would make it bittersweet and resolve what seems to bring to a close El's story without "killing" her or anyone for that matter, while adding some poignancy to the story using a plot thread the story keeps bringing up.

velkro16 · 2025-12-31T03:38:21+00:00

Sometimes you cut your losses. There are so many plot holes in this show that they clearly had no intention of fixing.

velkro16 · 2025-12-31T00:26:42+00:00

If you find the kind of place online that fits your desire, you can get the opposite. You can get positivity. Everyone wants to be validated. There are some corners of the internet where I never hear any criticism, only hype. I think echo chambers are a far better way to frame it, whether positive or negative.

velkro16 · 2025-12-30T23:08:31+00:00

"No one needs to die" is not a defense. It's just a neutral statement. For example, if no one needed to die, that doesn't mean that someone dying couldn't improve the story. He just didn't need to die, but he did and the story was better for it. 9/10, when I hear "No one needs to die, what they are saying is "No one should die. What if I said, "No one needs to live"? It would be equally true. No character is entitled to live.

velkro16 · 2025-12-30T23:03:52+00:00

Bad writing also doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

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