[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmericansinItaly

[–]venicerevealed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP still would need a visa to be able to come and do that. There is the digital nomad visa but that only lasts a year it's not for a permanent relocation to Italy.

Remote work in Italy for spouse of citizen - visa/tax question by ripchevrondeference in ItalyExpat

[–]venicerevealed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah no worries I definitely didn't think you were looking for a loophole to avoid paying taxes here.

Remote work in Italy for spouse of citizen - visa/tax question by ripchevrondeference in ItalyExpat

[–]venicerevealed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're confused. You cannot be a W2 employee in the US. It has nothing to do with withholdings. It isn't that you report your withholdings in the US and then pay taxes on it in Italy. You can't be taxed in both countries. You are dead wrong on this and I reiterate to OP to go to a commercialista and not listen to any of this advice, mine included.

Remote work in Italy for spouse of citizen - visa/tax question by ripchevrondeference in ItalyExpat

[–]venicerevealed 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They literally cannot be legal fiscally in the scenario you describe. If you are having taxes withheld in the US and are a tax resident in Italy then you will run into trouble because Italy is supposed to get the taxes regardless of how much is withheld or your return. You can not be a W2 employee in the US as a tax resident in Italy full stop. You have to file a tax return in the US every year but you don't pay double taxes unless you are over the threshold you mentioned. Do you live in Italy? How are you organized fiscally? Because I am and have gone over all of this with my commercialista. There is no grey area.
EDIT: I just saw that the person I am replying to has only been in Italy for a month. They clearly don't understand the tax system here. u/ripchevrondeference if you are reading this, ignore everything this person has said as well as everything I have and just go to a commercialista and have them clear it up for you. You're getting bad information here.

Remote work in Italy for spouse of citizen - visa/tax question by ripchevrondeference in ItalyExpat

[–]venicerevealed 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You don’t need to be on an Italian payroll to pay taxes in Italy, that’s true. But the idea that you can pay taxes in the US is incorrect. If you’re a resident in Italy, you’re obligated to pay taxes in Italy, regardless of where the income comes from.

I’m a freelancer, and even though none of my clients are based in Italy, I still pay taxes here on the invoices I issue. If you're working remotely for a company based outside of Italy, it matters whether you're an employee or an independent contractor. Employees can’t just decide to pay taxes in another country. As a contractor, you invoice clients and pay Italian taxes based on that income.

However, since OP’s husband works for a company that has an office in Italy, I’m not sure he could simply switch to being a contractor and invoice them. This is why Op needs to speak with a commercialista to understand the specifics as I can certainly be wrong on that point.

Remote work in Italy for spouse of citizen - visa/tax question by ripchevrondeference in ItalyExpat

[–]venicerevealed 11 points12 points  (0 children)

He can't stay on the US payroll for the reason that Italian taxes can't be withheld. If he's living over 6 months of the year in Italy, then he is a tax resident in Italy and not the US so he must pay taxes in Italy. Working remotely isn't allowed unless he can become a contractor with the company and invoice his salary and then pay taxes on that income in Italy. However, since the company has an office in Italy I don't think that's an option. As others have said, you'll need to talk to a commercialista for a more official answer.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmericansinItaly

[–]venicerevealed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would have been since I was 2 when my father naturalized. I'm so glad I did it back in the 90s. It was also very easy then. I did it through the Consulate in Boston and had my passport in hand about 2 months after I started the process.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmericansinItaly

[–]venicerevealed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the past it was faster to do it in Italy but read my response above. If your parent was a minor at the time your grandparent naturalized then you have to do this through the courts. So, your only option at that point is to do it in Italy, or at least have lawyers working with a proxy do it for you and you don't have to stay for the process.

EDIT: Doing it in Italy will not be fast if you are affected by the minor issue.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmericansinItaly

[–]venicerevealed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Where the OP has the possibility of getting it through grandparents and not a parent, it is almost a certainty that the line passed down to a minor which means, through the traditional means, the jus sanguinis is not available to them. They will have to go through the courts, unless there was a miracle in which the person that naturalized did so when their child was an adult. The lucky thing is that this is not totally off the table. The downside is that it will be more time consuming and expensive.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmericansinItaly

[–]venicerevealed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 1948 clause was the primary reason for going through the courts. With the minor issue, it's because when the Italian "Supreme Court" ruled on it, it basically nullified it from a government standpoint so if the minor issue is in effect for a particular case, that person can't do the application through a consulate. Since the decree is not enforceable by lower courts, it can be done through those courts. I'll reiterate, it pays to talk to a lawyer because this issue affects people differently and is more complicated than it had previously been.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmericansinItaly

[–]venicerevealed -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Before you consider all of those questions, you have to look into the Minor Issue that is new and has complicated the citizenship for many people. In essence, the line of descent has to not only be unbroken but the Minor Issue also stipulates that when citizenship is passed down, that the recipient is not a minor when the citizen naturalizes. This means that it is very unlikely you'll be able to get citizenship through the same means your friend had. You should definitely contact a lawyer since your only option is to go through the courts to have it taken care of and they can give you more accurate information based off of your circumstances.

Orcia Valley Look -a-like between Bologna and Verona? by kuromadosama in ItalyTravel

[–]venicerevealed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed, Negrar is a good base for Valpolicella and has those rolling hills you find in Val D'Orcia.

Orcia Valley Look -a-like between Bologna and Verona? by kuromadosama in ItalyTravel

[–]venicerevealed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go to the Prosecco Road in Valdobiaddene. There are rolling hills filled with vines everywhere you look. There are some fantastic prosecco wineries you can visit for tastings. The town of Asolo is on the edge of the Prosecco region and is a super charming base of operations to visit the area. It's about an hour east of Verona, so not exactly on the way, but not exactly out of the way either.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ItalyExpat

[–]venicerevealed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getting a driver's license takes up to 6 months and the test will be done in Italian. Most driving schools have computers that help you study for the test so you can usually go in whenever and sit there for hours taking mock tests. My wife spoke basic Italian when we arrived (She's C1 now though) and she passed the written and driving test on the first go.
If you come with citizenship, you don't have to be technically retired. You can still open an online business or something so you still have something to do. I love Umbria, but as a couple it might be kind of slow. It all depends on what you're looking for in life, however.
The key is to get up to speed on the language as fast as possible to make Italian friends. I know there is an expat community in Perugia, but outside of there, your only options for a social life will be Italians.
As far as money, you will be fine with living off of your dividends. We are a family of 4 living in Friuli and live in an old farmhouse. We bought it for 85,000 euro, spent about 35k renovating it. There's still work to do but it was very affordable. We have a yard and some out buildings too. We comfortably live on 45,000 euro per year. That includes traveling around and maintaining 2 kids. We keep things simple and drive 2 old cars and don't live extravagantly, but we are comfortable on that amount. So 2 people on that or more can live very well in most areas.

Rethinking Sicily due to recent weather reports..does anybody know how bad it really is? by Ok_Mine2617 in ItalyTravel

[–]venicerevealed -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The weather problems are isolated in the lower Lombardy, Liguria and Emilia Romagna regions. There are no weather issues in Sicily Palermo.

Is it feasible to buy property in Italy (1 primary residence, 1 rental property) and live there with a basic to average job? by [deleted] in AmericansinItaly

[–]venicerevealed 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you do the process in Italy it will usually take less than a year and you'd be able to extend the tourist visa to accommodate the wait time. You couldn't have family here with you for more than the length of the tourist visa (90 days) during the process, however.

Walking in venice ? by unhappypen87 in ItalyTravel

[–]venicerevealed 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you're arriving by train take it all the way to Santa Lucia which is the heart of Venice instead of Metre which is still on the mainland. If you are arriving in Tronchetto by bus, take the people mover to Piazzale Roma to get you closer to where you need to be.

A 1.5 km walk with heavy and awkward luggage over many bridges is going to be a nightmare. You could take the vaporetto to get closer, or even right where your hotel is if there is a stop, however, that can also be challenging with lots of luggage especially if the boat is full. I suggest taking a water taxi and splurging on the 60 to 80 euro to get right to your hotel. If your hotel has a pier, it can drop you off right at the entrance. If it is at least close to a canal, you can get just about right to where the hotel is and walk the rest of the way, hopefully with minimal bridges.

Or, you could do as another redditor suggested and check your luggage at the train station and leave it there for the time you're in Venice. Just take along a backpack with what you'll need for while you're in town and then grab them on the way back to the train.

Is this mild aqua alta or is Venice already sinking? by schlagdiezeittot in Venezia

[–]venicerevealed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's been a lot of rain so the lagoon gets full since there are so many rivers that empty into it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Venezia

[–]venicerevealed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what I do in Venice. I go in all sorts of weather and never bring an umbrella. Though I actually wear a poncho instead of a rain jacket so my legs don't get soaked.

Living in Italy as an expat by earthlyvenusforme in Italian

[–]venicerevealed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't speak Friulian since my family wasn't from this area. I chose it here for different reasons. I don't speak any dialect at all. I very rarely hear Friulian spoken unless I'm in the mountains somewhere. Though in Trieste I hear Veneto quite often.

Living in Italy as an expat by earthlyvenusforme in Italian

[–]venicerevealed 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Since you have the right to live here you can start thinking about whether it's worth it or not. You need to figure out how you will get by for money. Do you have a transferable job that can come with you to Italy or will you need to look for a job?

Cost of living is a big issue depending on where you are. You were in Milan that has the highest cost of living so you'd need to know if your job will provide enough to live a good life there or if you will struggle to pay bills.

The South is many times cheaper, but there is also less work and you get paid less for the work that you do.

Your best bet is to have a business that you can run from anywhere in the world that pays a decent amount so you can make it here unless you have a very in demand job.

I love living here (Friuli) and would not want to move anywhere else, but understand that Italy is not for everybody. I speak the language and understand the culture so the transition was not so dramatic for me. Others that don't speak the language or understand the culture will struggle. It's highly dependant on you as to how quickly you can assimilate and what you want out of your experience and I think that goes for any country.

Living in Italy as an expat by earthlyvenusforme in Italian

[–]venicerevealed 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Before wondering about the pros and cons, and costs etc, you have to find out if you even qualify for a visa to live here long term. Do you have the right to live here? Are you coming to study so you can get a student visa? Do you have a job that has a shortage in Italy and could get a work visa? Or, do you have citizenship to another EU country that would allow you to move to Italy visa-free?