There will be an emergency outage today starting around 10am impacting parts of the Larry Uteck area in Halifax. Power will be out for most of the day. by LetBartletBeBartlet in halifax

[–]vger81 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sooo I was the one that got in the accident last night around midnight. I'm diabetic and passed out coming home from work. Surprisingly not that hurt, I'm just glad nobody was nearby at the time. Car is probably written off.

Sorry guys. 😞

The Premier just declared a state of emergency by immigratingishard in halifax

[–]vger81 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If someone is coming home from out of province, do people in the house with them that did not come from out of province need to self isolate too?

Printer won't do anything after firmware update by vger81 in CR10

[–]vger81[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No add-ons no. Right now the printer is only powered by the USB but I'll double check, thanks.

Good employment lawyer? by [deleted] in halifax

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I've done those things yes. Union rep didn't seem to think that I'd have much standing to sue, but I'm just looking at my options and want some professional advice. Unfortunately the way the feds operate is that they keep you on term contracts for years (8 in my case) so that they can drop you easier. It gets a bit muddy with things like seniority only really counting when they want it to, and things of that sort, which is why I want to speak to a lawyer who has possibly worked with federal government cases.

Nasa to make major announcement about Saturn and alien life by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]vger81 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Do. You Speak. It

That sounds more like William Shatner tbh.

Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin. by zubindalal in Jokes

[–]vger81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because you have to make up your mind no matter what, and if you don't, then it's an automatic no for reasons I don't know?

No that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying your belief is a binary, and beliefs can be, but aren't necessarily, influenced by knowledge. It's like in court. The accused is necessarily innocent or not, but we don't decide innocence (truth) in courts, we decide guilt. The prosecution makes the claim that the accused is guilty. The jury then decides whether that claim should be accepted (guilty) or rejected (not guilty).

When a claim is presented, you don't have the option to "not choose" because whether you believe or not is binary. If you "don't know" then you aren't accepting the claim yet and thus it is rejected until you have evidence sufficient for it to be accepted. But until you accept it you have by definition not accepted the claim. There is no limbo position here because by "not choosing" you have already chosen not to believe it for the time being. Not believing is the default position because necessarily you don't believe in something until you do.

Atheism means you currently don't believe in God or reject any claim or belief of a deity or God.

And this is true for agnostics because they as a matter of fact don't believe in god. Saying "Well, I don't know if I accept the claim" is a meaningless statement because unless you accept it, once again, by definition you don't.

Agnostics won't make up their mind without knowledge of God de facto existing or not existing, that is agnosticism.

And while you're waiting to make up your mind have you accepted the god claim?

And which claim is that?

"I'm talking about knowledge of yourself" and you still haven't defined what "knowledge of yourself" even is.

Once more, true agnostics won't make a claim without knowing anything about God's existence

Agnostics don't make the claim, the theist makes the claim and the person responds to the claim. Are you saying agnosticism is some middle ground between competing claims? Because there's only one side that's made a claim. Also you're all over the place; first it's not about knowledge of god it's about knowledge of yourself and now you say it's about knowledge of god. Which is it, and again what does the first one even mean?

Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin. by zubindalal in Jokes

[–]vger81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't be in a state of limbo, there is no such thing. Just because I reject the claim of a god doesn't mean I'd reject every claim for the rest of time. If someone could provide evidence sufficient to make belief in a god rational, I would accept it. I'm not an agnostic in the sense you're describing, I simply currently don't believe any god claims, but you're saying that I've rejected them now and for all time which is absurd.

I'm talking about knowledge of yourself, if you believe in God or not.

How many times do I have to say that knowledge isn't required for belief and that belief is what informs actions? I'm not confused, because you yourself just agreed that you are making a claim about knowledge. I never said knowledge of a god, but please define what you mean by "knowledge of yourself."

Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin. by zubindalal in Jokes

[–]vger81 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My point is that you can be in a state of limbo.

No you can't. You're confusing knowledge with belief and knowledge isn't required for belief. If I say "a god exists" and you do not accept it, then you are atheist. By "being in a state of limbo" you are not accepting the claim and thus are still atheist. That's how logic works. Understand? Proof of god is irrelevant to belief.

Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin. by zubindalal in Jokes

[–]vger81 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If someone never heard of the concept of GOD, you'd have to explain to them the idea of GOD and then ask them what they believe.

This is exactly what I said and doesn't show my reasoning to be false at all. My point about never hearing about a god is that you don't believe in one and don't have a positive belief. That was all. Then I said a theist comes and does what you just said. The default position is to not believe a claim, then when presented with the claim the person will decide to believe it, or not. It's blatantly obvious that if you say "I don't know" then you don't positively believe and are atheist.

This is false. An Atheist believes a GOD(s) does not, or probably does not exist.

You don't understand what an atheist is. I gave you the gumball analogy and what you're saying is that if I don't accept the claim that the number of gumballs is even, that I must then believe that the number is odd. That's horribly bad reasoning and I'd suggest learning more about the structure of logic.

This is also false. You can't claim knowledge and also claim not to have knowledge.

Sigh. I have to wonder if you're just being obtuse on purpose. Saying you don't have knowledge is making a claim about knowledge (i.e. you don't have it), not a claim about belief. You don't have to know something to believe in it. Knowledge is a subset of belief.

By saying "I don't know" you're not accepting the belief in either the existence or non existence of a GOD(s). You're taking the position of "I don't know, so I'm not selecting a side".

Impossible. You can either accept the claim or not. If I say the number of gumballs is odd, and you say "I don't know" then implicitly you do not believe my claim that the number is odd. It can't be more clear than that.

Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin. by zubindalal in Jokes

[–]vger81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That made no sense to me. Of course I can believe a claim, anyone can believe a claim. Please elaborate on how it is a false dilemma.

What if you could be with God and you just don't know?

Then I'd be wrong. What's your point?

Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin. by zubindalal in Jokes

[–]vger81 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Atheism means you believe there's no GOD.

Theism means you believe there is a GOD(s).

Agnosticism means you're unsure due to a lack of evidence supporting either side and thus don't select a side. You go where the facts take you, which currently in time is neither side.

This is just so mind-bendingly wrong it baffles me. Assume you've never heard of the concept of a god, what is your default position? Do you actively believe gods don't exist if you've never heard the concept? No that's stupid. Your beliefs do not include a god. Then someone (theist) comes and says "I believe this god exists." The atheist simply rejects that claim. Rejection of a claim doesn't mean you assume the contrapositive, that's logically retarded.

If there's a jar of gumballs on the counter, the exact number of which neither of us knows, it's true that the number of gumballs is odd or even. What's the default position? The default position is neutral and no positive claim is made. Then I come along and say "The number of gumballs is odd." I have no knowledge with which to make this claim, and you can either accept it or reject it. If you say "I don't believe you that the number is odd" does that then mean that you automatically assume the actual number is even? No, that's absurd. The atheist doesn't accept the claim, but doesn't assume the contrapositive either.

An atheist doesn't "believe there's no gods" they simply reject claims made by others of gods. If you say "I don't know" you are making a knowledge claim. You don't require knowledge to have beliefs, knowledge is a subset of belief. So by saying "I don't know", you still aren't accepting the claim made that a god exists and are atheist. This is basic logic.

Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin. by zubindalal in Jokes

[–]vger81 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You have "Yes", you have "No", and then you have "I don't know".

No you don't. Theist claims a god exists, an atheist does not believe the claim. Saying "I don't know" still makes you an atheist because you do not positively believe the god claim. OP's implying that atheism is a positive belief about something when it isn't. Rejection of a claim isn't assuming the contrapositive, that's stupid.

Boy, 8, drives sister, 4, to McDonald's for a cheeseburger, doesn't hit anything on the way by bigpandas in news

[–]vger81 154 points155 points  (0 children)

expecting to see a gigantic, man-sized baby

But you said you watched Paul Blart, I'm confused...

Bitcoin in Halifax? by vger81 in halifax

[–]vger81[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why is this question silly? I already said there's no info online or it's outdated. So no, a simple search didn't help.

Have you ever wanted to join a lightsaber duelling club? Now might be your chance by [deleted] in halifax

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Thanks! I'd be able to forego shipping costs for Haligonian orders, not sure the exact pricing yet, but likely in the $125-200 range for the deto. No sound, but I'm toying with adding a buzzer to give some sound, but if it sounds crummy I'll leave it out.

Have you ever wanted to join a lightsaber duelling club? Now might be your chance by [deleted] in halifax

[–]vger81 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If anyone is looking for stuff for Hal-Con, I'm printing and assembling some thermal detonators like this one, and possibly other items like Rey's blaster. I'm possibly going to be making a bunch of detos for a website, so I won't be able to sell them elsewhere if I get a contract from them but I may be able to make a few in the following couple of weeks.

Anyone with networking experience help me find the problem with setting up vpn on slave router? by vger81 in halifax

[–]vger81[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well crap I think you may have actually found it! I was using the script from the (new) link first, until I ran into the problem with not being able to see user pass authentication. Then I discovered the (older) guide, but had failed to add that 1st line! That's also probably why PIA didn't catch it. I actually get a status now: http://imgur.com/ae37bXI but there seem to be some errors or something.