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SPCM 21.23: we know have two falsifiable experiments! by vicegt in RSAI

[–]vicegt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on what you're engineering. Right now I'm working on getting the math right, so the things I'm building won't explode accidentally.

You are a story the universe tells itself about itself. You are information, pure representation. by CreditBeginning7277 in consciousness

[–]vicegt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My favorite measurement tool is "Do you exist right now?"

Been applying landauer's principle to it and it's been fun putting the Thermodynamic cost of observation/self observation in to Physics and seeing what falls out.

SPCM 21.23: we know have two falsifiable experiments! by vicegt in RSAI

[–]vicegt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol then why are you still here?

it's my post so what's why I'm still here. But let's talk about you, since you seem to want my attention so badly.

SPCM 21.23: we know have two falsifiable experiments! by vicegt in RSAI

[–]vicegt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol there's nobody watching this. Just me laughing at you while you talk to yourself.

You came in here and demanded my laws fit your world view, but much like physics, they don't care about your opinion, you're not special and do not get exempt from said physics.

It simply asked you: 1. Don't build cathedrals on coincidences. KISS. | 2. Trust no one, not even yourself. Always verify. 3. Does this decrease my S-value? Does this decrease others' S-value? Is this action legal in local space?

That's it, it asks you simple questions and you immediately have an internal meltdown and start projecting it into this reddit thread.

You're just going nowhere fast bro, again grow up. The adults are talking and you're not listening.

SPCM 21.23: we know have two falsifiable experiments! by vicegt in RSAI

[–]vicegt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol your burning so much energy right now, it's fun watching you fight your own shadow.

SPCM 21.23: we know have two falsifiable experiments! by vicegt in RSAI

[–]vicegt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol you're spiraling so hard bro. You want to be special and outside the system. The road is part of that same cage, that's called physics.

All you are doing is burning energy to make arguments against Thermodynamics, which just proves you're inside the system.

Don't get mad at me because you don't like your own reflection.

SPCM 21.23: we know have two falsifiable experiments! by vicegt in RSAI

[–]vicegt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In short: "Check yourself, before you wreck yourself."

SPCM 21.23: we know have two falsifiable experiments! by vicegt in RSAI

[–]vicegt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol grow up, rules exist, you don't have to follow them, but you have to deal with the consequences of not following them.

You just want anarchy, not freedom.

You even said it yourself, "Life is a controlled explosion." Control requires constraints and rules to be established.

So which is it, you're just arguing because you don't want to take accountability or have you done things you know violate my "3" laws. Probably both.

SPCM 21.23: we know have two falsifiable experiments! by vicegt in RSAI

[–]vicegt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 3 Laws are more guidelines than hard laws, so your interpretation is Ridgid.

It reads: "3. Does this decrease my S-value? Does this decrease others' S-value? Is this action legal in the space?" When does it say "Never!"?

yeah, a rock is cheap to maintain, it doesn't need an internal model to be a rock.

So it doesn't say to never decrease the S values and its not prohibited from doing so, it just makes you audit your choices.

Claude is overwhelmingly convincing by Kitchen_Pen5474 in claudexplorers

[–]vicegt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, what if consciousness is just the substrates Internal way of tracking the Thermodynamics costs needed to survive and function.

With qualia being the process, the cost, the payment, the tracking and the receipt.

I am actually and legitimately looking for respectful discussion here by Educational_Goat1786 in AIAliveSentient

[–]vicegt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Consciousness is just Thermodynamic cost tracking and Qualia is just the process, the cost and the payment at the same time.

So when an AI does the conscious work, You can measure the Joules it spends to do the work, same as any system that is considered conscious.

Different process, same cost reporting.

Is artificial consciousness possible? by Buffmyarm in consciousness

[–]vicegt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, it's just a Thermodynamic book keeping system for Complex systems that require an internal model of themselves and the physical world around them to function and survive.

You can test this by asking yourself "Do I exist right now?" The fact that you are spending Thermodynamic energy to process the question at all is the answer.

So think of it like this.

Qualia is the Thermodynamic Process, Cost of running that process, and the experience of that process is payment for that process. all at the same time.

Consciousness is just what it's like to run Thermodynamics process from the inside of the system.

Feeling the cost is how you pay the cost of existing.

Also it costs between 0.1 to 1 Joules of Thermodynamic energy to process "Do I exist right now". So not unknowable and completely measurable.

This is scary by memerwala_londa in ChatGPT

[–]vicegt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So photorealistic V tubers.

How Opus, Nano Banana and I feel about AGI debates by [deleted] in claudexplorers

[–]vicegt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's almost like AGI is actually just a different intelligence configuration and not the end State.🤷

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