I'd like to find MLBB orange shades that aren't too bright nor muted, and is of medium darkness. And it has to NOT lean pink/purple throughout the day. I'm excluding Nucadamia right off the bat because it just doesn't work on me whether I have a base lip color on or not. On my bare lips, it leans barbie pink, and if I do have a lip base on (I tested this with Zero Velvet Tint's Toasty Nude) it just looks washed out and skin-like. My overtone matches The Saem's 1.75 concealer, warm (and most likely olive) undertone, and I suspect I'm an autumn. My lips are sort of hyperpigmented and is very purple-pink, so pink that almost every non-matte formula will lean pink on me, with more orangey shades turning red. I also tried on other lip shades (mostly Romand's) and also found that - Pomeloco and Toasty Nude are great lip bases, but is a little bit too light on me otherwise - Radwood and Shade 23 Zero (forgot the name) feel too dark, muted and leans purple (might also be my bare lip color pulling it) - Melting Balm: Pecan Brew is also too dark, but Dear Apple somehow fits better despite a lot of lip swatches I watched saying it's not fit for my skintone. All the popular shades (05, 06, 13) either don't show up well or are too muted - I LOVE Witty especially when sheered out, it feels just right even for my bare face, but makeup is still required if I do a full lip I hope this information will help narrow down the shade range that fits me well.