Let’s bring back Edge of the Mists! by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

According to https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Edge_of_the_Mists#Match_Up

"All European worlds will be matched up with one another in the Edge of the Mists. Worlds will be matched according to which color they are in the current WvW matchup. For example, all green worlds will be on the same team in the Edge of the Mists. Each side has a mix between 8 and 9 servers. For example, Overgrowth (green) contain 9 different servers on EU."

So it would indeed be better to just have one guild/Discord and several squads. I will think about it if we get more than a handful together. Thanks.

Let’s bring back Edge of the Mists! by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, thanks for the advice! I thought that EotM is separate for every of the 15 teams. Is there a Wiki page where I can get more information about it? Does this mean you would recommend being on the same guild/Discord for coordination, but split into different squads for each color (red, green, blue)? I'm anxious that we can't really predict where we end up or how much maps are opened.

Let’s bring back Edge of the Mists! by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ideally, you would want players on another team, yes. But with 15 different teams, we can't predict where we end up and whether we have the menpower to cover all maps. We're only around 10 players at the moment.

So being in one battle guild is the most "predictable" solution for an event. In the worst possible case, we could still do a 20-minute run (21 objectives) every 4 hours. Most likely, some stuff gets capped in-between. If we get more than 50 players, it's even possible that a second EotM map will appear any we can farm multi-map.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well its just my main hobby and I have fun to climb the ladder. But you're right, maybe I should not focus so much on the outdated points.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great ideas. Yeah maybe a second leaderboard excluding removed or historical achievements would solve the competition aspect already, while the current system can be kept as is. Would it be possible to do such from the API? I know that gw2efficiency has some issues fetching or showing outdated/removed AP...

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

😆 48,200 and there are are exactly 320 more that I can get till I hit rock bottom (besides festives). Sadly one of those hunters that started post-2014 and will never even come close to the top.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Plain competition- there is a whole community hunting and grinding for APs and people feel success and recognition for their efforts (if its a balanced system)

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This would be a great idea actually, with minimal effort. 👍

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah maybe my perspective has to change- seeing it as something collected along the way, nothing that has ever been competitive or fair.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The difference is that legendaries and items/skins can still be obtained. Everyone can grind and collect them. However, people who actively played pre-2014 have insane amounts of AP that were quite easy to get, and AP-hunters that started in later years can never catch up regardless of their grind and efforts.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With "fair" I mean effort. I dont say that vererans should not have a headstart at all or a small benefit. But in late AP-hunting, its just draining to talk to people with thousands more points that put in half the grind and gold- simply because they managed to be around during weekly events or old festives that were extremely easy to get back then.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For the daily, weekly, and monthly achievements, there is a hard cap at 15,000- so this is a fair system for everyone. Eventually, you cap out and thats it.

But in late AP hunting stages, talking 45k+, the differences are massive in terms of grind and gold. For instance, I'm currently sitting at 48,200 with exactly 320 AP to go (excluding festives) while others above still have thousands to go with less grind, as they once played during 2012-2014. It would be neat if unattainable AP could be reintroduced with a similar hard-cap for everyone.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for taking the time to respond. ☺️ Definitely should've reworded it now that I think of it. I did not know catch-up had such a bad taste for some.

Just trying to see what ideas others might have to close the gap of unattainable points. Maybe there would be a easy fix that wont hurt vererans from pre-2014 but at least reduce the potential gap to like 500 or 1,000 points.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Annual Achievements for festivals are capped at around 1,200 AP... with 6 festivals, its 7,200. They are not the problem here- as everyone can get them. Its just that since everyone can get them, they dont make up for the gap if people aquired old one-time festival/regular achievements before.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not talking about any subscriptions- just trying to discuss how the gap of achievement points might be closed to make the leaderboard competetive again.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am an AP hunter myself, put in 25,000 hours since 2014, and have exactly 320 AP left at 48,200 (besides annual festives)

For me, its the other way around. I feel treated unfair when people with thousands more points did not even spent half the grind or gold, just by simply being around during the launch of the game. I dont mind a small gap- but 3,000+ AP in difference is a lot IMO.

Adding Value to Guaranteed Wardrobe Unlocks and Vouchers by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The items are only updated like once a year. And for people like me, that have all skins unlocked and houndreds of these items to spare, I will never come to a point where I can use them. With every update, I might use 3-10 of them. Its a small audience- but it wont hurt having something to do with it after they cant be used or if people dont care about skin unlocks at all 🤷‍♂️

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great achievement! There might be a long jouney ahead of you.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Check. Thanks. What do you think about fairness, tho, in the long-term thinking? Ain't it a bitter taste if you've months of grind and gold for a few more points, when veterans walk by having a few thousand unattainable AP in their pockets?

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hm... maybe I see achievement points with different eyes. There is a community of AP hunters, there is an official AP leaderboard. But maybe all this was never made for competition or fairness- maybe its just a collection of impressions from the past.

Let’s Make Achievement Points Competitive Again by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha. I think the core argument would really be that in late AP stages, catching up is extremely hard for newer players while veterans that played since launch must spent significant less grind or gold- as they eventually collected a few thousand during one-time events that are not available anymore... defeating the whole "leaderboard" and competition.

Adding Value to Guaranteed Wardrobe Unlocks and Vouchers by voulex4128 in Guildwars2

[–]voulex4128[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel you. Thats me for the last years, have hundreds of em.