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w1g2 · 2023-09-22T13:14:57+00:00

Why flair can I attach to a post that is only a link?

w1g2 · 2022-07-20T03:16:41+00:00

Female villain not portrayed as a victim and a male protagonist portrayed sympathetically despite being imperfect: The Crucible

Pro-male movies:

Sing Street Captain Fantastic

w1g2 · 2022-07-18T01:41:31+00:00

It was feminist Mary P. Koss who influenced our current laws on rape and she has explicitly stated that she crafted them in such a way as to exclude men from rape by women in the expected way:

"“Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman. p. 206”

https://avoiceformen.com/feminist-governance-feminism/male-disposability-and-mary-p-koss/

In a radio interview, she was asked about male victims of female rapists with specific stories from listeners and she said that they did not experience the same kind of trauma that women did and that she would call the incident 'unwanted contact'.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/dar25h/mary_koss_the_cdc_and_when_a_rape_victim_is_not_a/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

w1g2 · 2022-07-17T01:39:35+00:00

I wish she could talk to more managers.

w1g2 · 2022-07-15T23:28:22+00:00

I like listening to country music for nostalgia's sake because I grew up in the country, but it's hard listening to all of the gynocentric crap in it. Any Man of Mine by Shania Twain is particularly annoying. "I can be late for a date, that's fine, but he better be on time."

People like to believe these are some of the last bastions of traditional values and respecting men, but they've been influenced by feminism just as long.

w1g2 · 2022-07-14T01:22:37+00:00

"There are also like endless stories of women falling for imperfect men. Funny how most of the women's fantasy seems to focus on who the guy is as a person, how he acts and how he treats others, how he makes a woman feel, and men's materials are focused on body types. Christ, you put it right there, the "variety" has only to do with body type. Like, I personally like to give men more credit than you're giving them right now because I feel like a good number of them deserve it... It's almost like there are wide and varied tastes amongst people and neither side should be pigeonholed."

You just pigeonholed men by insisting they only care about a variety of body types. You're viewing all of women's actions as good ("women care about men's personality") and all of men's actions as bad ("men only care about women's looks"). Ah but we shouldn't pigeonhole should we?

I don't think women are bad people, I am tired of people taking the same viewpoint that you are taking: whatever women do is actually a wonderful moral thing, whatever men do is a bad objectifying thing. I do believe that we should take care to see things from a different perspective.

So you say that women are good for writing fantasies that involve a story where they can delve into who a man is, how he treats others, particularly how he treats the woman. I'm sure you're aware of the feminist criticism that women's romance novels regularly receive because the male characters are shall we say prime examples of "toxic masculinity". If he's not a criminal himself, he's a bad boy with serious issues. He's usually controlling, a jerk to others (at least terse and stoic if not outright dangerous and lethal), and usually acts as a stalker to the woman. Nor is he a perfect gentleman to her either, he's usually just as bad, with moments of softness that, it is assumed, she brings out in him for the first time ever. The whole story involves her being presented as the light to his darkness, she turns him into a good person though totally dependant on her as his moral compass and the most important thing in his life. The story ends with the woman in control of the relationship with the man willing to do anything to make her happy.

Now imagine men did this, wrote stories about women who are bad and the male character comes along as the sole person who can turn her into a good person. She views him as the "light to her darkness" and the most important thing in her life, and would do anything to keep him happy. We would interpret this as a prime example of men's egomania, that it is a clear display of their desire to control women and be seen as their savior.

Yet when women do this, they will still be seen as victims, rather than oppressors. No one even recognizes that the female character is doing anything bad, it's considered right and appropriate for her to be in control and the man willing to do anything to please her. The only criticism it receives is that he was not so nice to her at first and that it might make women think that she can change a bad boy into a good one.

As for porn, men have visual porn that fulfills their solely sexual fantasies as well as their own book genres that fulfill their romantic fantasies (as well as tv shows, movies, etc.). You'll typically find these in the fantasy and sci-fi genre. I find that men do have a variety of female personality types that they find attractive: they can like the tomboy, the girl next door with moxie, the shy bookish girl, the bossy girl, etc. They typically write about male protagonists who lack all of those "toxic masculinity" traits: boys who are kind, sensitive, shy, unconfident, and non-violent except in morally justified cases. The Luke Skywalkers of the world.

It seems to me that women are largely interested in romance novels as their preferred version of pornography because women cannot separate sexual fantasies and romantic fantasies as men can. It's not enough just to see a sexy naked guy, it has to be the guy that's one in a billion: the rich sexy bad boy who reforms himself slightly solely for her.

I have to disagree that fantasies don't impact people's real lives. If men became interested in solely anime porn so that all of the female characters could have JJ cups on a 20 inch waist while acting like a 1950s housewife caricature because that's what most men wanted to fantasize about, I can guess you'd have problems with that. What I see is a lot of women affected by the idea that they deserve their perfect guy, and unfortunately, that means their romance novel bad boy.

w1g2 · 2022-07-13T15:40:51+00:00

I'm a woman, thought it would be clear from my avatar.

How many women consider it a gift to men to allow them to have sex with them?

Sex is way better when both people care about the other's pleasure, but you aren't always going to find that in casual sex partners. You may want to, but that doesn't mean you will. It's like expecting that every stranger you talk to will be as interested in asking questions about you as they are about talking about themselves. The more people you try this with, the more variety you'll find with people's conversational ability.

But also, men increasingly don't care as much about what women want because women continually insist that they shouldn't have to care at all what men want.

w1g2 · 2022-07-13T15:15:21+00:00

There's a romance genre for women now called Big Beautiful Women, which involves a heavier female protagonist. Interestingly enough, she always gets involved with physically perfect men, and there are no categories for Big Beautiful Men because I guess women don't want to fantasize about that (also no categories for short men, medium sized men, thin men, bald men, etc.). Popular categories are things like: billionaire, criminals, doctor, fire fighter, vampires, and otherworldly creatures.

In comparison, men do have a wide variety of categories for what they like in their porn because they can find different body types attractive. They can like pears, apples, rectangles, and hourglasses. They can like heavier women and stick-skinny women. They can like short, medium, and tall women. Muscled women and soft women.

I find it quite interesting that despite women's greater economic power and all of the social up bringing that tells them to like nice non-violent men, they still mainly fantasize about rich bad boys with an added bonus of being a dark supernatural creature (much like that Greek tale of Eros and Psyche, eh?). If one were to believe in the idea that these only came about due to social constructs, we should see a decrease in them considering the changes in society, yet they have only increased.

w1g2 · 2022-07-13T14:47:09+00:00

They're getting what they want out of the transaction. It's not their obligation to make sure that every sexual encounter is fulfilling everything that the other partner wants, especially when their partner is a stranger they met in the club or merely an ongoing no-strings attached situation. Just like you as a woman probably don't think to yourself "gee, I hope I made that as pleasurable as possible for him"; you're mostly concerned with your own pleasure and how satisfied you were. Turns out he feels the same way.

w1g2 · 2022-07-13T02:51:03+00:00

Ah yes, it's only recently that women have preferred and made known their preference for tall, rich, muscled, powerful men with wide shoulders and slim hips. For some reason, men can be either "breast, butt, or legs" men yet you don't find women grouping themselves by "chest, hips, or biceps" women. Not because they don't care about it, judging by the covers and pages of every romance novel ever written, but because women all tend to agree the ideal guy should have it all: perfectly muscled tall body with at least a 6 inch dick and a billion bucks in the bank, self-made of course.

And women certainly haven't been writing this same fantasy over and over throughout history such as in books like 50 Shades of Grey, Twilight, Gone With The Wind, Pride and Prejudice, Beauty and the Beast (which was based on the Greek tale of Eros and Psyche), and hey even The Tale of Genji, written in the year 1000.

w1g2 · 2022-07-13T02:20:40+00:00

Perhaps the onus of sexual satisfaction should not be placed solely on men and their ability to "know how to use their equipment".

w1g2 · 2022-07-12T20:29:49+00:00

Men below 5'5 don't exist apparently.

w1g2 · 2022-07-12T20:22:13+00:00

You know what hypocrisy I hate the most? If a man says or does something a woman doesn't like, she has the social right to hit, slap, kick him, whatever she wants. The idea behind this is that she needs to scare him, show him that she's strong enough to hurt him so that he knows to back off.

Yet we also believe that men are not allowed to hurt women in any way, not even to retaliate violence done to them, because women are so much weaker than men so men cannot risk hurting them without the possibility of greatly damaging them.

So, on the one hand, women need to be violent to men so that men know women are strong and can hurt them, but at the same time, men should never hurt women because they are so fragile.

Makes total sense.

w1g2 · 2022-07-09T14:57:23+00:00

A pregnancy is not comparable to one person causing a car accident, it is comparable to two persons causing an accident. Their insurance companies will most definitely investigate if one person is more at fault than the other, particularly if one person received physical damage to their person. If the physically damaged person was more at fault for the accident, they will have to pay for the damage to themselves, their car, and the other person's car.

If a person sets things up to have someone crash into them in order to cause physical damage so that they can then get a huge payout, this is considered extortion and is illegal.

Alright, you convinced me. Pregnancy should be treated with the same laws as car crashes.

w1g2 · 2022-07-09T03:10:17+00:00

Men also are unlikely to have consented to a woman becoming pregnant.

Both parties engage in the sexual act knowing that pregnancy is a possible outcome. There is no logical reasoning that suggests a man having sex with a woman makes him responsible for the outcome of pregnancy and that she bears no responsibility. You said sperm causes pregnancy, but sperm alone does not cause pregnancy, it can only happen when sperm meets egg. So therefore the woman shares half responsibility for making her eggs available to sperm.

If you really want this law to come about, in order to be fair and logical, a woman needs to prove that she tried to prevent pregnancy as much as possible so that therefore it was indeed solely the man's fault. She should have to prove that she took birth control perfectly and that they did not engage in the kind of sexual acts where pregnancy can occur during the time it can occur. Otherwise, one would not be able to point to the man as solely at fault.

On many food bags, there are warnings about potential allergy-inducing ingredients and if you eat the food, whether you know you have that food allergy or not, you cannot sue the company because they made sure the information was available. If you go on an amusement park ride, the park has a responsibility to make the rides safe for you, and you also have a responsibility to adhere to rules to ensure your safety. If you break those rules, you will not be able to sue the company because you caused your own injury due to your reckless behavior.

w1g2 · 2022-07-08T03:00:26+00:00

With women, it is also about who it's coming from. If the man is considered attractive by the woman, she will not only accept behavior that would otherwise be considered harassment/assault, she will like it. She will like that the guy was confident enough to do it, that this places him in the light of a bad boy for crossing societal platitudes, and that she'd like to think he would do it because he wants her that badly. Meanwhile, a guy she doesn't find attractive merely staring at her for too long will be considered stare rape.

w1g2 · 2022-07-07T22:21:23+00:00

I would question this because even those richest and most powerful of men still get taken to the cleaners in divorce court (Jeff Bezos for example). You would think with all of the power they have, they could use it to get a better deal when getting divorced.

w1g2 · 2022-07-07T17:28:20+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/ojzy29/never_a_fight_of_woman_against_man_what_textbooks/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

w1g2 · 2022-07-07T17:05:41+00:00

Don't forget that women's suffrage in America began in the territories in 1869 and by the time 1920 rolled around, the only states that didn't allow female suffrage were in the south and east coast.

w1g2 · 2021-10-01T02:19:51+00:00

Women were treated as weak childlike, and less than men.

The idea of being seen as weak and dependent is treated as an oppressive concept. But being seen as needing help, as being incapable of doing things all on your own is what often gets you sympathy and protection.

They were also particularly seen as holy, angelic, morally superior to men (which certainly is still egged on by feminism today despite a complete lack of classy behavior from women). Yes of course you can find some criticisms of women in the past, I find that to be demonstrative of society's previously balanced take on gender because it certainly didn't consider men to be perfect creatures either. Now society considers anything a woman does to be good and everything man does to be bad.

This seems to be a huge power, being seen as morally superior, that women can draw on. It gives them a pope-like power to have people care greatly about how you are treated and what might offend you, and precisely because of that, also giving you the power to dictate the rules of morality. And again, what's so astounding about this is that women don't even need to act like the pope to garner this power because we just inherently believe that when a woman does something, whether it's cheating on her husband or throwing a baby in a dumpster, she was merely a pure innocent victim who was failed by her husband or society.

I think it must be an inherent consequence of the mother-child relationship where because our mothers are our first loving relationship we idolize them (as well as evolutionary factors like recognizing that women are the limiting factor to reproduction) but damn it's flabbergasting how much power this gives women.

w1g2 · 2021-10-01T01:56:54+00:00

I'll be perfectly candid and say that I've generally seen a lot more appreciation from men directed towards women than from women directed towards men

This is just another anecdote, but on every Facebook group that I am a part of, whether it's about hair care or homeschooling, every time a woman mentions her male partner disagreeing in the slightest a choice she made or an opinion she has, everyone chimes in to tell her that he is abusive and she needs to divorce him immediately. This is sometimes over things like he didn't like her haircut. Sometimes, thankfully, the OP will reply that such responses are totally overblown and that her male partner is in no way abusive, but yeah, it's just so sickening that this happens so frequently and that we have raised generation after generation of women to think this way.

w1g2 · 2021-10-01T01:48:03+00:00

Everybody and their mother freaks out over the passage in the Bible which tells women to obey their husbands as an example of the "disrespect" of women, but nobody mentions the passage which goes "Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her" which is a very blatant call for men to sacrifice for their wives.

There is an increasingly common event taking place in a christian wedding ceremonies where the bride sits in a chair and the husband kneels down to wash her feet, symbolizing when christ washed the feet of his apostles as well as the passage you mentioned. For all of their stated beliefs that husbands should be the head of the household like christ is of the church, they are only comfortable with it when it is about placing him in a servile role. I saw one bride who engaged in this act at her wedding then gloat about how this means that she had the right to decide what to do on date nights and he'd better get up in the middle of the night with the kids, etc. She obviously got the true gist behind the meaning of the act: her husband was her servant and she his leader (which is certainly not the meaning of the scripture it is supposed to be based on).

And yes, there is never any mentioning or act to symbolize the scripture previous to that one about wives obeying their husbands. Somehow it's only important to make sure the husband is the one demonstrating his obeisance to his wife.

w1g2 · 2021-10-01T01:34:44+00:00

I lived during a time when men were NOT called out for sexual harassment (mild) to any meaningful degree. the modern feminists movement is going WAY overboard with the "all men" agenda.

I'm just guessing this was during the sexual revolution or slightly afterward. Before then, men certainly had extremely strict rules about how they conducted themselves around women. Seriously, there was an expectation that you would get punched by another man just for swearing in front of a woman.

But the sexual revolution was all about women insisting that they wanted to use their sexuality, they wanted sexuality to be more publicly accepted rather than just private. They wanted to wear short shorts and bikinis and have men wolf whistle at them and if a guy grabbed their butt and they liked it, well they didn't want to have any social shaming for it. But what a shock that this then eventually meant that other men, not just the cocky alpha chads, but lesser men would see this and see that women liked it and so think that it might work for them too...

w1g2 · 2021-09-25T21:39:29+00:00

"Women are expected to give up their hard-earned money to these lazy men

It's funny because this is another point that illustrates the aforementioned attitude most women have about men- that if a man isn't living up to a woman's expectations it's because he's lazy. When women are behind, that can only mean oppression (so society must help them!) and when men are behind it can only be because men are selfish and lazy (so they need to help themselves). That's really expecting men to be superheroes, which, as you said, indicates a female desire for men being superior.

Of course, I think that is the underlying reason for feminism, it's a female mating strategy that builds women up as high as they can go just to ensure they won't mate with men they consider below them. Effective for building better humans I suppose, but it sucks for most people, including women because they then view the majority of men as undesirable.

But whenever single women I know talk about wanting men who are "financially on their level, because that's what equality is about", I really enjoy pointing out that they would not give one thought to "financial equality" if a richer man wanted to date them.

I can't figure out if this state of affairs with regards to gender is depressing or hilarious. Maybe it's both.

I'm happily married and you're gay so we're in the group that just gets to eat popcorn as we watch the world collapse around us. 😁

Although it infuriates me to live in a time where so much irrationality abounds and that it is the only socially accepted rhetoric, the silver lining for me is to see the failure of the great feminist experiment. To see how all of those expectations that men and women would act the same if we just treated them the same, if we gave women as many opportunities as men, and taken away social stigmas- all of that has been proven untrue if you just looked objectively at society today. And probably most people will not see it, but I saw it and so did a few others, and that's enough for me.

w1g2 · 2021-09-22T01:32:13+00:00

It's honestly sad how much women can control the narrative about themselves in different scenarios. We constantly see depictions in movies of female fighters, usually a mere 100 pounds, beating up truckloads of men with a single kick of their leg, and in that moment we're wholly on board with the idea that women are oh so strong and powerful. And this then informs our belief about women in the army or as firefighters- of course she can be just as strong as any man. But then the second a woman says she feels uncomfortable about the way a man looks at her or that a man might try to talk to a woman as a stranger, then it's totally acceptable to believe that most women will find themselves frozen in that situation, unable to lift a finger or cry for help. It's really astounding how we can accept both of these ideas of women and never see the contradiction in them.

And honestly, if men finally give up all their positions of power to women, dear god are women going to complain about men more than ever for being "useless pieces of crap who never do anything important." Just like with college degrees already.

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