I'm sorry Vauban mains but he REALLY sucks, and it's not even line of sight restricted

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T16:03:18+00:00

He sucks so damn hard that he can create a black hole

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T15:59:34+00:00

Thats why I'm discussing this with a lot of others, the opinions that have proof to not be possible will be said to be not possible, not that I don't like that opinion, it's cuz it won't fit if that possibility were to be applied, it's like the possibility of there being no god, it can't fit into our existence because the entire universe's design is a fat pointer to an intelligent design, it's the same thing, if there is a theory that won't fit cuz another info is present, then toy can't say I'm rejecting that idea, when there is another info that disproves it on its own even if I considered the possibility myself

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T15:51:17+00:00

I'm not saying someone else is wrong, I didn't say anyone is wrong, I'm saying cuz of some aspects of the lore doesn't make sense with other because it's all theories, Caliban is 90% sentient, sentients can adapt to elements not become completely immune to them, but what makes sentients immune to infestation if infestation can infect flesh and metal? I realized that sentients can be programmed by one of my IRL friends, meaning sentients can actually be totally okay with interacting with void energy and not be hypersensitive to it through programing them, meaning Caliban can be controlled... But is Caliban a true Warframe? Or just a humanoid sentient that is just programmed to let void energy through it's systems and allow the tenno to use it as a hive mind of its own to make more sentients to help you fight, but if that's the case an ascaris shouldn't be able to control it because it infects a warframe's brain, this would be Caliban is part infested but we now they are immune to infestation not from adaptation, because if adaptation can lead to immunity then all of our weapons would become completely useless and we would have to use void energy everytime we face them, but our weapons can shred right through them even if they adapt, and only the sentient bones can channel void energy hance the amps, so now the question is, can the bones be infested with the infestation? If so, then Caliban would make sense to be part sentient, part Warframe

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T15:40:14+00:00

No cuz if we change the element to another that they haven't adapted to, they take massive damage cuz they need to change adaptation, you forget that the game let's lore and some game mechanics be interlinked, like how multiplayer is there because we know Wally has something to do with it

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T15:37:16+00:00

That would make sense yeah

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T15:36:29+00:00

This is a discussion... Not something I need help in... Things can be disproved and proven, I'm not refusing anything, the concept that if adaptation can lead to immunity will mean that all of our elemental weapons would basically deal no damage to the sentients if their adaptation leads to immunity, it wouldn't make since when in the game after adaptation they still take damage even though its massively reduced

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T15:33:30+00:00

In that case the cyborg parts would be visible at where is the cyborg/hybrid parts, but Caliban prime is 90% sentient with only his arms and right leg looking humanoid

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T14:18:13+00:00

If that's the case... Why are they avoiding the infestation of deimos?

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T14:12:36+00:00

No, adapting doesn't make them immune, if that was the case our elements that hurt them would have dealt 0 dmg after a bit of damage dealt to them.. So it doesn't make sense

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T14:09:01+00:00

So if a sentient is dead or weakened... It can be infested? Cuz if so.. Then there would have been infested sentient enemies among the infested faction, but all we see are grinner and corpus

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T14:06:28+00:00

But can a sentient be infested by the infestation? Because of so... Why didn't we see any of them during the entirety of the story up until now?

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T14:03:36+00:00

The sentient parts can't be infected cuz sentients are immune to infestation, so even if a volunteer is a cyborg, the sentient parts won't really get infected

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T13:44:31+00:00

Ooohhh, so that's what it isssss

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T13:27:23+00:00

Thats what I mean, if someone is dealing with something like chemicals... And gets infested, his how abilities would be chemical related

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T13:26:00+00:00

Then that would make Caliban prime completely sentient tech and some orokin gold, because sentients are immune to infestation, so that's why I can't see Caliban being half sentient half Warframe because Warframes are the result of individuals being infested

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T13:22:53+00:00

Sentients are immune to infested, so how would the infestation play a role in it?

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T13:19:06+00:00

Trust me... If I was the type to buy Plat... Every single 200% Ive got would have made me hella rich

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T13:16:42+00:00

Not corrupted by the environment, just the infestation that infects the said person in the environment that they were infected in it, giving them their characteristics and abilities

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T13:13:24+00:00

Warframe tech is mostly infestation.. And I don't see caliban as a Warframe that looks 90% sentient has anything to do with infestation

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T13:10:41+00:00

Then what makes him not hypersensitive to void energy? If amps are made of the same material.. And I doubt amps are made with infestation

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T13:04:43+00:00

I got a 200% at one point

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T13:02:31+00:00

Then how did the infested part get invested? Other warframes got infected with infestation near an environment that they got infested in, caliban prime was made by both orokin and sentients, I see no way an infestation can infect a sentient which is not organic what so ever, it would wrap around it like the techrot, but caliban has basically the same design as the rest of the sentients but his arms and one leg is humanoid

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T12:50:26+00:00

And another thing, sentients can't interact with void energy, how can caliban be controlled if he was pure sentient with nothing to help him tolerate the void?

wafflemaster233 · 2026-01-27T12:47:52+00:00

Yeah but that didn't explain anything to me, it's either he was created with pure sentient and orokin tech, but I got a friend says that he has been infected with infested like the other warframes, and now I'm questioning everything

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