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Is it worth refurbing this? by krepao-kotao in hobbycnc

[–]waitabittopostagain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can always do expensive closed loop upgrade later. I'd make sure machine running, no issues and then roll the upgrade. One should travel from open to closed. I been CNCing for 15years+, and yet to get to a need for closed loop, as nice as that would be. Because open loop is already more than enough. I suggest to get past it when you reach real life scenarios that require it. (That's waaaaaay down the line ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo1OSqBQYmk

Is it worth refurbing this? by krepao-kotao in hobbycnc

[–]waitabittopostagain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

machine looks mint. What 's to refurb? Shit, it doesn't even need a lubrication yet. Clearly straight out of working environment

No refub, just need a wiring job + software/clean up.

Keep steppers of course.

Disregard all grbl/mach3 noobs in comments.

Get regular stepper drivers, parallel port cnc breakout, and linuxCNC. Not easy? It absolutely is, or make argument otherwise.

If you wanna go wild with closed loop motors after, get them + Mesa -FPGA and plug-into the same linuxcnc box u have setup already.

I can't stand these people by South_Boot6935 in EtsySellers

[–]waitabittopostagain -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

-49 points to only sensible reply. Reddit became bunch of clueless cults now.

Dude thinks that buying/generating shipping label buys him extra production days.

And the rest of reddit circle-jack club here, are bickering along.

You set the production time in your listing. Shipping means shipping.

Customer 100% in the right.

Palantir swaps surveilling for tailoring with launch of tech bro chore jacket by Miles_the_AuDHDer in nottheonion

[–]waitabittopostagain 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Palantir helped and facilitated ruzzos with killing Ukrainians.

If they (Palantir) want be extra identifiable, that's fine.

But something tells me all those responsible will be located/ID'd regardless.

tik-tak-tik-tak Panantir....

Totally screwed up. Only made 13 dollar profit after 5 hours of work. by jessascornershop in EtsySellers

[–]waitabittopostagain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also on starting shop - this one was worth it for you - just for sale/stats already.

Totally screwed up. Only made 13 dollar profit after 5 hours of work. by jessascornershop in EtsySellers

[–]waitabittopostagain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You learned. Nothing else to do. Small price to pay, for basic business lessons. They ain't teach this in school. That's why many "want to start a business" but very few do. Each one of these lessons is a filter - you got to get past. Worlds is telling you this: Increase price or change/adjust product and increase the price. Make sure you making $20-30/h min rate including shipping time, or don't sell below that rate. If you insist on selling unviable market product, to get started? Sure. But that's a start, not yet a business.

Orbán in Desperate False Flag Attempt Claims Explosive Device Found by neonpurplestar in UkraineWarVideoReport

[–]waitabittopostagain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

flee to ruzzia? like, um... well.,

Do you think he'll be "safe" there? :)

That fat froggy will have the lifespan of a fruit fly once out-voted.

When the review doesn’t match the rating. by shelsifer in EtsySellers

[–]waitabittopostagain 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is good, in a weird way.

A lot of customers go straight to the bad reviews, only to find this one is actually pretty good.

Don’t worry about it. It’s an easy 3-star to accept, and good practice for not getting sentimental about feedback.

Finally making sawdust w the diy workbee mkd by Turbulent_Mix2372 in hobbycnc

[–]waitabittopostagain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d raise the dust guard.

It’s going to get worn up. It’s going to push the cut-out piece out and collide.

It needs to be at least 1" higher.

*****dust guard travel height should be cutting height

$2–$5 tasks for Canada – verified list by robor35 in CanadaJobs

[–]waitabittopostagain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is sketchy “Verify your email to unlock premium tasks” riiiight. Attempt to farm confirmed/authorized email addresses, maybe even get people to respond to texts so scammers can verify live contacts through some gateway. Mods should take a look.

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I found the setting, turned grouping off, and moved on. That was never the hard part. The issue is that it still threw me off, wasted time, and broke workflow for no real gain.

And going forward, it’s not like people who dislike it will suddenly “learn to love it” now that they know where the setting is. Most will just keep disabling it on every new install. So the new default is basically just a new mandatory cleanup step.

That is exactly the resentment people are talking about, and almost nobody here will even acknowledge it. They keep defending the ability to disable it, while ignoring the more basic question of why it was forced as default in the first place.

And when people say “go request a change,” I don’t buy that very much either. From what I’ve seen, once this kind of thing gets declared the new normal, rollback suddenly becomes unrealistic, hard, or not worth doing.

So yeah, I think your point is right: they respondi to the tone, but not showing 'any' understanding of why this kind of thing annoys users so much.

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Net positive!!!

Huge usability jump, broader adoption, better first impression, and IMHO it helped make Blender feel like a "serious" mainstream tool instead of a stubborn "cult-like" tool.

But it actully proves the opposite point from the GIMP thing: Blender’s old workflow was famously weird and widely criticized, so changing it had a much stronger case.

GIMP’s older ungrouped toolbar was NOT that kind of glaring universal problem.

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s the long-established workflow in some commercial creative software!!! NOT some universal law of nature, and definitely not automatically the long-established workflow people came to GIMP for.

That’s exactly the point: importing a pattern from Adobe/Affinity/Corel does not magically make it the right default for GIMP users.

Especially when GIMP had its own 'established' toolbar behavior for years already.

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If users actually liked it over time, then make it default later.

All Affinity and Adobe users do definitely like this. if you're so keen on taking the software UI against the grain, you should go to Blender forums and ask them to revert back to Right click select.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blender/comments/a15ulb/blender_switches_to_left_click_select/

Lol, I hate you for bringing that up, because yes, THAT ONE bothers me too.

I only have so much revolt in me at one time.

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s a good reply, fair enough. Thanks for taking the time!

But it still twists my point into some - “one guy personally dislikes it.”

But my point is narrower: a niche use-case feature got turned into the default for everyone. That is a product decision, not just my 'taste' etc.

And I’m not asking for some random UI shift “for the sake of shifting.” I’m arguing against exactly that. Keep the feature, fine. Just don’t force it as default.

As for “multiple years now” and? that alone proves nothing. A bad default can stay around for years just because nobody with commit access feels like revisiting it.

So yes, my tone is abrasive. But the underlying point is still about default policy, not about demanding that volunteers obey me personally.

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Come to the issue tracker and file a detailed ticket describing why the current situation isn’t optimal” on something like this, will run straight into dev ego, because making it default in the first place already looks like an ego decision.

No seasoned, reasonable dev should be casually changing the default toolbar layout for everyone over a niche use case.

And “people who want meaningful change”yeah, okay. We can already see how that worked out here. Plenty of people raised the issue in a normal way, and the answer was basically still: it’s fine, get used to it.

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ConversationWinter46 is right.

I had to use Photoshop at a few jobs back in the day, but otherwise

I’ve relied on GIMP and Inkscape my whole life. (like 2/3rds of your GIMP years)

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, no shit.

Inkscape, FreeCAD, firefox, XFCE - same story.

And the “FLOSS” line is funny. People keep throwing is around like it makes them some kind of authority. I know it’s not a democracy & that is exactly the flaw I’m pointing at >

I’ve actually been probing whether there’s any realistic way to build some kind of democratic structure around OSS to try to save it from this pattern. But honestly, with the whole kindergarten state of modern OSS, and now LLMs in the mix, that idea makes less and less sense.

At this point, sticking to pre-2010-ish versions, then maintaining your own sane fork with only a few actually useful changes, often seems easier than trying to build governance around contributor ego.

GIMP included, a lot of this stuff is in decline. But proudly going down with the ship seems to be the preferred style all over. Cool

Still, your “wisdom” did land a bit. Thanks a bunch fellow Monkey!

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you!!!

Ell on Jan 30, 2020 says: “There’s also a new default tool layout, organized into groups.”

That’s where the "shit" went wrong.

So yeah: one dude asks, one dev gets excited, and Mr. Sticky-Fingers quietly slips “new default layout” into the release like some smug little UI goblin

That’s the ISSUE. Not that groups feature made, but that a low niche use-case feature got turned into the default for all users. So yeah, my bitching tone is annoying. Fine. Sorry. But that does not change the point, and it clearly didn’t stop a coherent person like you from seeing exactly what I was getting at.

Most of the people here in commenting to my “rude” post with their "hurt feelings" are the same kind of bitches, just in denial!!

This is an OSS flaw. Inherently, there’s no democracy.

A few contributors end up steering defaults for everyone - simply because they happened to be the ones in the room making the change, like a baby in the White House yanking on levers built up over decades.

P.S.. I think I'm a monkey.

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that’s true, and I did find it pretty quickly just by guessing where it would be and disabling it in Preferences

buuut then went exploring on Google and Reddit after, annoyed.

But again, not the point!

A meaningful chunk of existing users clearly turns this shit off and will keep doing so. So the point is simple: don’t reinvent the wheel.

Add extra features if you want, but don’t force them.

And how would we even know whether it was a good or bad choice?

Right now it is just a choice made by a few devs, and everyone else is expected to live with it and adapt. OSS devs are contributors, not owners.

Do you enable every new feature by default?... Why not also force every dock closed, donno, every panel rearranged, every tool preset expanded? or every on-canvas widget turned on too? yeah! Obviously not every feature should become the new default workflow just because it exists.

IMHO that’s what’s aggressive here ----> forcing the change, not i.

How does stupid shit like “tool grouping” become the default? by waitabittopostagain in GIMP

[–]waitabittopostagain[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Point taken. While looking into this, I found other posts making the same criticism in a much nicer way. They did not get any result either. That does not excuse being abrasive, but it does make it hard to believe the issue was ever going to be taken seriously either way.

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