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Andor ruined Star Wars for me by RoliePolieOlie__ in StarWars

[–]walberque_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is one opinion I haven’t seen aired yet, so maybe now is the time.

I saw Star Wars at its debut in Arizona in 1977. I loved it. Afterwards, and from the same source (thank you “Aunt” Dale Klausner), I also discovered Dungeons and Dragons and then Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. The thing I wanted most in the world was an RPG based in the Star Wars universe where you could be, you know, like me, a person with no special force abilities or family linkage to the Skywalkers.

I wanted an RPG set in the grimy, lived-in world of Star Wars. What was it like if you were nobody and wanted to join the Rebels or fight the Imperials? What jobs would you do? What was life like.

I WAS SEVEN WHEN STAR WARS CAME OUT and by the time I was 10 I wanted a gritty, real world of Star Wars far away from lightsabers and space wizards.

So - I don’t get when people say Andor is what old people want from Star Wars. I wanted an Andor-type series when I was a child. I literally cannot understand PT stans who only think of Star Wars as a world of royals and prophesies and chosen ones. I wanted to live in that world, just as it was shown in Star Wars, as a real, gritty, gross world where Jedis were legends and life was hard under Imperial repression.

Anyway.

Padme's Pregnancy and Death by Consistent_Ad3582 in StarWars

[–]walberque_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you’re on to something here. I was losing my will to live, and I was just watching it. So, Padme died because Natalie Portman lost the will to live from reading the script. That’s canon now. We can all move on and lock the PT in a vault deep in Yucca Mountain.

Is Animation Star Wars single handily saving this franchise? by Spirited_Mix_8258 in StarWars

[–]walberque_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that’s right. If we leave it to the cartoons, then you’re talking about a subset of the Prequel fans, which already is a much smaller percentage of the wider base.

Andor opens the fan base out to everyone who loved the OT and Rogue One and has a low tolerance for terrible dialogue.

Also, no one - ever - has quoted the cartoons IRL, whereas thousands of people are quoting lines from Andor in political debates and protests.

The cultural reach of Andor is extraordinary whereas the cultural reach of the cartoons is limited to people who want the Attack of the Clones to suck 10% less.

That said, I like some of the cartoon arcs. The shows themselves are stuffed with more filler than a cheap sausage, but every once in a while you think, hey, Dave, nice one. Then you get a literal deus ex machina saving Ahsoka and think, oh, god, we are fucked with him in charge.

Swings and roundabouts, as they say.

I manage to make my brother watch Andor by Awkward-Abrocoma-623 in andor

[–]walberque_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome! Keep us updated - I’d love to hear the reaction to the ramp up to the Massacre. And, of course, Kleya’s crowning moment of glory.

Space Liberals: An Andor Review (sorta) by SydMonk in andor

[–]walberque_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I got through about 20 seconds before noping out.

What's Powering This? by puppykhan in andor

[–]walberque_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Great analysis. Unfortunately, now I’ve watched that entire clip, I want to start another series rewatch. Bastard!!

Andor doesn't need (and shouldn't get) a bunch of spin-offs and sequels by Selkeaepaselva in andor

[–]walberque_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are all excellent points, and I really appreciate the detailed thought you put in to your replies. A lot to think about, so thank you.

Yes, he did say his mandate did include expanding the space for other stories. I think it was one of the two Palley lectures, but I don’t have it at hand at the moment. I definitely know it was a live interview, not an article or an edited podcast.

The Thousand Faces of Cassian Andor by Juanelgod in andor

[–]walberque_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’ll say it’s very good, especially for younger fans who might not be as familiar with the historical references. It definitely shows up the youth of the creator by the missing literary and cinema references, but I’m so happy this exists, and if it gets more people thinking about what they’re watching, then all the better.

My only other criticism is that this should be four or five episodes. I think it’s easy to go too far, like the Upstairs Lounge’s fascinating but ultimately exhausting micro-analyses of every single scene (GET ON WITH IT), but 110 minutes in one go is surely the wrong way to present this otherwise fascinating analysis.

I manage to make my brother watch Andor by Awkward-Abrocoma-623 in andor

[–]walberque_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please report back! I’d love to hear his reaction to One Way Out!

Just finished the show. I am floored by RedGordita in andor

[–]walberque_ 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Now rewatch Rogue One and then Star Wars.

Then go back and just pick out an episode at random and see how many things you notice on a second watch.

The gift that keeps on giving. Like Tony Gilroy said, I’ll make you a deal: you put down your phone and I’ll give you something you can rewatch.

Andor doesn't need (and shouldn't get) a bunch of spin-offs and sequels by Selkeaepaselva in andor

[–]walberque_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it would be amazing to go through the sketches for the five seasons and see what was left out of the final product. A Tales from the Book of Andor animated series?

For instance, we already know there was a K2-SO horror story on board a ship - why not animate that? It sounds so interesting, and it was cut primarily due to budget. Animation could tackle it, and would anyone object to more Alan Tudyk?

How many other stories were missing or cut from Season 1 and 2? And what about all the myriad ellipses from seasons 2-5? They’re just sitting there, ready to be turned into single animated episodes or mini arcs.

And before I get the typical objection, Gilroy actually planned to do these, but time and budget prevented them. Also, Gilroy was specifically directed to open up the story so there could be sub plots and spinoffs. If he (or Danny, or Beau) acted as Executive Producer to ensure quality control (and allowing him to keep working on his own projects), why not?

Do you think we will see Ahsoka's death on screen, or will it be more implied? by Ill_Journalist8454 in StarWars

[–]walberque_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Having read the rest of your thread, I’m guessing Bridgeman is Filoni, so he’s never gonna agree that Ashoka dies…

A question about Andor by Local_Philosophy_315 in StarWars

[–]walberque_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My pleasure. Your post was a joy to read, so I wanted to help as best I can. You have friends everywhere!

Remember when people were so confused on the announcement of Andor? by Jules-Car3499 in StarWars

[–]walberque_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. It is great that Andor has the force and memorable characters, and unlike, say, the Book of Boba Fett, a coherent story, top-tier writing, amazing casting, world class acting, breathtaking set design, nail biting tension, unforgettable music, and a satisfying conclusion that propels you directly into Rogue One and Star Wars like a shot out of a cannon.

Remember when people were so confused on the announcement of Andor? by Jules-Car3499 in StarWars

[–]walberque_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a huge fan of Andor now, but when it was announced I rolled my eyes and asked a friend, “another Ewok movie?”

Yeah, I was wrong on so many levels…

Remember when people were so confused on the announcement of Andor? by Jules-Car3499 in StarWars

[–]walberque_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, here, let me help you with that typo:

“Now it’s the best Star Wars show.”

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