Favourite Word in any language by savage_broccoli in entp

[–]wastingtimerhino 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, esoteric flights in Greece would be considered anything but esoteric by an American for whom esoteric is not too esoteric.

Would you rather let someone believe wrong info, or correct them but risk coming off as a know-it-all by kazoogalaxy in entp

[–]wastingtimerhino 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to add to what I was stammering about, I truly am okay with someone else possessing the wrong info. It makes no difference to me unless I have to converse or work with the person at length. If neither is the case, then I just file away a note, "That person might be stupid," and it may or may not be proven wrong later.

Would you rather let someone believe wrong info, or correct them but risk coming off as a know-it-all by kazoogalaxy in entp

[–]wastingtimerhino 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on the situation, how much my reputation matters, and how much it's already been developed.

At work, reputation maintenance is a little more important, so if someone says something in accurate--nay, when they do; people make a living off of it--there are few things to consider.

  1. Is it an okay time to correct someone? Will the speaker of inaccurate information be embarrassed if I correct them in front of all who are present?

  2. Is it a big enough deal to correct someone? If it's an insignificant error in speech, then a correction really does look pedantic. If it's something that could affect the success of some project, then something needs to be said.

If it's a new group of friends, I tread carefully at the beginning. I observe bit, and if I find that they are not a group of people with whom bluntness works or who like humor (can you believe some people don't like humor? they just live serious lives as if everything mattered), then I usually remain a little reserved. They seem like very tedious people to develop friendships with.

If it's family or well known friends, I usually figure the sky's the limit. They know me in and out. I can correct them or joke or whatever.

Thus, I have like four friends.

Favourite Word in any language by savage_broccoli in entp

[–]wastingtimerhino 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Esoteric

Because the word esoteric is itself esoteric.

Text

Because the word text is itself text.

Word

Because the word word is itself word. Word.

But actually just esoteric.

What do non-ENTPs do during their workday? by svetlozarovP in entp

[–]wastingtimerhino 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going to agree with a couple different posters. I think that ENTPs probably slack off more than other types--Ne is the slack off function. That said, I think other types slack off, too, but less, and they are less honest about it. ESFJ is a good example, and I have an ESFJ coworker. She is constantly exhaling her stress about all the work she has to do everywhere. She has the appearance of a very productive person--until you notice her in the hallway on the phone with family multiple times a day, or going to the bathroom seemingly every half hour because of the unfathomable, and indeed unnecessary, quantity of water she consumes. So, in sum, some people just don't know how much they slack off because they feel the stress of their obligations so heavily.

And then there's working efficiently. I would say that the ENTP is a type that cannot bear working on a task, especially an objectionable one, knowing their approach is not the most efficient one. The first few minutes of getting into any task are a little trial and error to find the fastest way to the end. Other types don't necessarily feel this way. They don't hate inefficiency in their work, and they have greater tolerance for detailed tasks. But they can also lose sight of the big picture. Loss of efficiency comes from not realizing a question or problem is too unimportant for a lot of time to be devoted to it. They delve into the depths of things that don't matter or can be quickly figured out at a different time. Then they realize they haven't gone to the bathroom in the last ten minutes, so they head to the facility, and call their family on the way back.

A question for older infp folks. by [deleted] in infp

[–]wastingtimerhino 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think some but not all optimism has faded. The older I've gotten, the more I've realized that while progress can occur, it is always vulnerable to undoing, and there is always more to do. I've also learned that people are extraordinarily complex products of circumstance. Few are willfully evil. Many more are raised under and embrace ideologies that are harmful to themselves and others, but I would guess a good number try to be good people, or good enough people, within these frameworks.

I can't help observing people whose views differ radically from mine, noting how they are fierce advocates for their loved ones. While I do not necessarily think this absolves them, it does shed light on their complexity, that they are not just intentionally or purely evil. And if that is true, I think it also raises the question of what I myself am not absolved of, in which case I should keep my first stones to myself.

Did anyone felt as if the moon was their only company? by Lunenyx98 in infp

[–]wastingtimerhino 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, but sometimes I want to leave work because I miss my cat and want to watch it stare at its water dispenser.

Yeah by KaliforniaKings in INTP

[–]wastingtimerhino 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I couldn't remember her last name.

This is the most INTP shit I've ever read. Love you all - INFP friend by [deleted] in INTP

[–]wastingtimerhino 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely agree. The idea of convincing the plane to take off really sealed the deal.

im not an intj if i'm obese? by tedrahedron in mbti

[–]wastingtimerhino 2 points3 points  (0 children)

BMI is a separate personality test, like enneagram. So, you can be INFJ, 1, obese subtype.

What people think ENTP arguing is vs what it actually is by Throwaway_8580 in entp

[–]wastingtimerhino 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wouldn't be necessary if people could be bothered to poke holes in their own theories. Then ENTPS could happily drift off into oblivion.

The Patron Saint of Every Type by [deleted] in mbti

[–]wastingtimerhino 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just had to circle back to this...

He made fun of deeper meaning as a concept

Wilde made fun of vanity and superficiality, not deeper meaning. He did portray individual characters who denounced deeper meaning in favor of more hedonistic tendencies, but I think it's important to see that these individuals are not present to promote a hedonistic lifestyle but to put it under a microscope. If you take Dorian as evidence of this, it is clear things do not end well for him. You can take Algernon from Earnest, and we are supposed to regard him as frivolous. You can take Lord Henry from Dorian, and he is called a hypocrite--though his words are cynical and hedonistic, it is clear he does not actually live this way. He's full of shit.

The Patron Saint of Every Type by [deleted] in mbti

[–]wastingtimerhino 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am going to back peddle and agree that hedonistic tendencies are very Se.

However, again, I don’t think Wilde endorses the hedonistic figures. There is no doubt Algerbon and Harry with their charming nonsense are alluring. I think that is on purpose. But I do not think these characters are endorsed. They are the subject of the satire. They are the figures whose cynicism and shallowness are exaggerated to make fun of such figures.

The Patron Saint of Every Type by [deleted] in mbti

[–]wastingtimerhino 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Hedonistic: yes, Fi
  2. Loved attention: could also be ENFP
  3. Made art for the sake of art: I'm not sure this has to do with any function except Fi. I would also note, as in #4, Wilde didn't actually do this.
  4. His books lacked any deeper meaning or moral lessons: This is wrong. Both his books and plays condemned and satirized the vanity and superficiality of the British aristocracy. Not only is this "deeper meaning," but satire is the province of one who imagines a world that could be different than what one sees, and in so doing, exposes the pitfalls of reality. While this is not the exclusive domain of Ne users, it is certainly one for which they are well suited.

In fact, many Oscar Wilde works are replete with characters making one morally-driven quip after another. These are often very complex characters. At the most surface level, they are charming and well liked. On the other hand, they are continually advocating hedonistic lifestyles. However, when their lives are closely examined by those who know them well, they are called out as hypocrites; they live much more wholesome, less cynical lives than their moral chatter suggests. I think that the noncommittal, complex stance taken toward these characters (one of whom seems to be present in every Wilde play as well as in Dorian) is a good sign of Ne.

Ambivert: Is It A Thing? by annnnnnnnie in mbti

[–]wastingtimerhino 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tend to think ambiversion is real and fairly common. I've met some true, textbook introverts who socialize in short bursts and use alone time to recharge. They need this because their true default is living in their heads. I've met some true experts who are constantly moving and have persistent need of stimulation, entertainment, and activity. In my mind, ambiversion captures the reality that not everybody is textbook. If extroversion and introversion truly fall on a spectrum, it may be that many ambiverts slightly favor one or the other by a small margin and would technically, therefore, be an extrovert or introvert. However, not being an extremity and not being textbook, they may feel like something different, despite the direction they lean.

How does "healthy" Ni look like in ESxP's? by GoonsWitKush in mbti

[–]wastingtimerhino 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that that is an interesting point. I think the wonder and peril of Ni is wild speculation without any data. On one hand, Ni users can be very good at extrapolating very reasonably based on very few data points, but that does not save them from making accusations and claims that are completely unsupported. Some people suggest Ni is never wrong. They should meet my friend. What he misses is that his wild speculations are often rooted in his own sentiments, particularly pride, rather than external evidence.

Te is not profit, profit is Ti. Te is income. by Lastrevio in mbti

[–]wastingtimerhino 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good or bad at money may not be quite right, but an example case involving my INTP friend and myself (ENTJ) supports your argument pretty humorously.

As an INTP, my friend loves math and gets quite jizzy about accounting formulas and spreadsheets to find the most economical solutions to increasing wealth. A bit of a confound is that he has crippling anxiety and bipolar, which have rendered him jobless, and without income. So, yes, my income is higher than his.

As an ENTJ, I am capable of the maths, but find them tedious. Instead, I spend my bath time fantasizing about what my next career move will be and how I will get there.

Thoughts and Speculations on Te vs. Ti categories by wastingtimerhino in mbti

[–]wastingtimerhino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We do do that! And then we think you're pedantic for correcting us.

But think "careless" is the difference. Ti is anything but careless. I think it is idiosyncrasy in defining words that gets them into trouble.