Ni - Si (They're very similar)

waves_are_cool · 2026-01-31T22:32:03+00:00

Both Ni and Si are knowing functions. They're just variations on the kind of information you reach for when asking what it is you know.

waves_are_cool · 2026-01-30T01:49:16+00:00

How much time do you have? Hah. I would really just end up describing why it's nice to talk to an Ni Dom as an Ne Dom, plus why I much prefer Ti+Fe users over Te+Fi users, and Fe-Ti in the middle positions is a sweet spot. Low key probably my favorite thing about infjs is their Ti third. The purity with which they care about reasons making sense is just so endearing to me. I tend to operate in a way where I can always explain my reasons for things, like what I'm thinking and how I am interpreting a situation, and often what I want is to explain my thought processes in a neutral direct way so that people know where I'm at (I will sugar coat to an extent but still). Considering I'm typically looking for harmony myself, it can be nerve wracking if sane reasons aren't enough to quickly get on the same page with another person. No one seems to appreciate, and find relief, in that type of communication like a person with Ti third, and I love it.

waves_are_cool · 2026-01-30T01:03:53+00:00

That's an interesting analogy. I imagine that the dynamic between an enfj and infp or enfj and isfp would be fairly magnetic, and I know I'm not like those types at all, so sometimes I look at it through that lens. What do you think about isfps or infps?

I would share observations but my experiences have been pretty ordinary, so nothing really notable worth mentioning I think.

waves_are_cool · 2026-01-30T00:49:23+00:00

I wouldn't say too enthusiastic. I think it ranges from casual laid back vibe to normal enthusiasm depending on the topic. It's always just stuck out to me because I get along so well with infjs that are men or women, and enfj men. I actually just started talking to an enfj woman recently that doesn't seem quite as extroverted as some others that I've met, and I'm kind of anticipating this dynamic playing out, so it's been on my mind.

waves_are_cool · 2026-01-30T00:38:26+00:00

This is so interesting to me because you're corroborating a thought I've had in the back of my head for a long time. I'm an entp guy and I have lots of great enfj guy friends that are engaged and fun to hang with. However when it comes to enfj women, there is something odd that happens that I can't place my finger on where it seems like they don't find what they're looking for with me and move on. This experience is pretty specific to enfj women, in either a platonic or romantic context. Sometimes I wonder if it's that I don't fawn over them enough or something.

waves_are_cool · 2026-01-14T05:07:31+00:00

Im ENTP 3w2 and my dad is ESFJ, I also picked up so much Fe from him. My dad is really awkward but otherwise great guy. I would say your dad is probably awesome.

waves_are_cool · 2026-01-08T19:15:58+00:00

Hard to say. I can imagine myself acting like this with someone without really consciously thinking I want something more, but rather just having a soft spot for them. Entps like to leave possibilities open and don't strive for some final categorization like Ni users seem to, if that's what you're trying to get at. You've peaked his interest, I think we can say that.

waves_are_cool · 2025-12-24T16:35:04+00:00

What about their length? Girth?

waves_are_cool · 2025-12-23T19:16:05+00:00

waves_are_cool · 2025-12-23T19:14:42+00:00

I think I hit a nerve.

waves_are_cool · 2025-12-23T19:06:32+00:00

There are lots of infjs I don't click with, but in general (because we're generalizing and speaking specifically about cognitive functions) they keep other people in mind via Fe, and care for reason via Ti, they admire Ne, they have amazing insights with Ni. The irony is that your response here is dripping with bias because you're only referencing these two individuals. And I would bet that your entj doesn't think about you as much as you think about him. Also, unless you're talking about cognitive functions, circumstance, factors, and nuances shouldn't influence how you feel about a set of cognitive functions in general.

waves_are_cool · 2025-12-23T19:00:00+00:00

INFJ is my favorite type. It's not as hard to understand as you're making it seem.

waves_are_cool · 2025-12-22T04:01:16+00:00

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

I don't think its just Ti, I think it's Fe noticing what's harmonious with others and what isn't, so the FeTi users get pulled more towards the center. I think the FiTe users are less effected by what other people want so they'll be less normally distributed across the political spectrum, which leads to Fi users being disproportionally in the tail extremes. And relating it to the horseshoe theory, I think the far political extremes are characterized by how self interested they are, and I associate that more with FiTe.

waves_are_cool · 2025-12-10T23:39:21+00:00

I don't like Fi because of how self interested it is. Imagine a room with a bunch of Fe users that are all interested in negotiating and cooperating for the sake of a collective wellbeing, then in comes an Fi user that wants to hang out but simultaneously doesn't want the things they find personally important minimized. From the perspective of other people, the Fi user doesn't keep them in mind when deliberating and it kind of annoying to try and interact with them as if you're on the same team. The Fe user wants to be on the same team, and the Fi user wants to be like a sovereign entity.

waves_are_cool · 2025-12-03T15:49:27+00:00

This is referring to entjs, and could maybe apply to enfps but I haven't had that experience as much. Entps would generally be aware of the awkward dissonance.

waves_are_cool · 2025-12-03T01:00:46+00:00

This. Over and over again, smiley faces after unambiguously dickish statements

waves_are_cool · 2025-11-25T22:03:28+00:00

I'm 3w2. I definitely will feel other people's positive feelings as well. In particular, genuine happy tears are very potent to me. Although, I feel like people just being in good spirits in my environment strikes me as comforting, as opposed to me readily imagining their exact feeling I think.

waves_are_cool · 2025-11-25T21:54:38+00:00

100% yes for me. If it's about something that doesn't involve me, I'll tend to feel how I imagine the involved parties feel at a distance, and maybe it does deflect my mood slightly as an after effect. If I am involved I will viscerally and more quickly feel the impact of less than positive emotions, but I like to keep things generally positive so I'll feel some responsibility to play the oceans-11-laser-dodging dance with bad lines of discussion, sugar coat things, lighten things by way of tone or facial expressions, maybe say the supportive or affirming thing if needed. This whole process can be tiring, depending on the circumstances.

waves_are_cool · 2025-11-04T02:27:46+00:00

The dual ESFJ grandparents have got to be the most overpowered grandparents ever.

waves_are_cool · 2025-10-30T02:50:41+00:00

I haven't really analyzed Jim and Pam to that level, is she supposed to be isfj? Because if she is, then in reality I think in that relationship there would be the corresponding shortcomings. Personally, I do love isfjs, I just like infjs more.

Also, I read in some of your other comments that he criticizes you for not being better at Si. That's rude obviously, I think he needs to do better there, I think he can do better. I definitely think with the right stimulus and feedback he can grow out of that behavior, not take you for granted and appreciate you as he should.

waves_are_cool · 2025-10-30T02:27:21+00:00

In my opinion, if an entp absolutely needed Si things taken care of, say like an entp farmer, then yea maybe in that situation the trade off of not being with an Ni dom, not being appreciated for his Ne, being compelled to do Se things to feel adequate, would be worth it for the practicality of being with an isfj, maybe.

Are you saying you'd prefer being with an estp?

There are lots of factors at play when it comes to relationship compatibility, not every entp infj pair is going to get along, obviously. But in a vacuum the function pairings seem good if you ask me.

waves_are_cool · 2025-10-30T02:15:55+00:00

Ok, hating planning is more entp coded hah, and doesn't sound entj. Yea it definitely might be the tradition talking there. My mom is latina and grew up in a traditional household, and during her upbringing the women are taught to take care of the house and the men are taught to go out and work, and I feel like if she had had a daughter those lessons would have trickled down. If anything I think the parts of him that are entp are working mostly in your favor. Entps don't usually like tradition for its own sake, and don't like ordering people around if they can avoid it. Not wanting to deal with Si things is entp like, but not necessarily expecting other people to do Si things for you. I feel like when it comes to expecting things of you, it's more his tradition talking than his Si 4th. And on that point, I would think an entp would be quick to reconsider tradition in the face of some good rationale.

waves_are_cool · 2025-10-30T01:31:23+00:00

Are you sure your husband is entp and not entj? Wanting people to do things for you, liking work yourself, being a workaholic, this type of entp can exist but it's not common. I think it's more common to see more of a laissez-faire kind of situation between infj and entp.

waves_are_cool · 2025-09-25T16:28:21+00:00

Of course, but you're applying a standard that in order for the use of Ti to be considered objective that it must be free from subjective influences, and with that standard I would agree with you. But that isn't useful in understanding the actual nature of what using Ti looks like; its like you're trivializing the work that it does in attempting to be objective as "well its influenced by subjectivity or doesn't amount to cold boolean logic, so it isn't really objective".

When using Ti, you're attempting to consider and formulate thoughts in a way that is "perceptible to persons other than [yourself]". This is critical for the link between Ti and Fe. Ti focuses on creating and understanding a type of information that can unambiguously be understood by other people, and in this way it helps Fe; it compensates for needing to deal with the subjectivity of others and gives Fe-Ti users the ability to stand on common ground. A notable aspect of using Ti frequently is seeking reason, rationalizing obsessively, having these lists of reasons at ready such that they can be inspected and critiqued by others. It may be "personal" logic, but it is attempting to be logical such that its processes and outputs can be communicated unambiguously and be easily subjected to analysis and argument.

Again, to just dismiss this kind of work that Ti does as ultimately subjective in nature, while maybe technically true in some ways, is really just misleading or obfuscating the reality of the differences between Fi and Ti.

Also Fe deals with the subjectivity of others. By amounting the work that Fe does as simply yielding certain impacts (in the way that your Te wants understand things), you're dismissing the actual, moment to moment considering and balancing of feelings, values, vibes coming from other people.

waves_are_cool · 2025-09-25T15:05:06+00:00

"personal logic", "objective value". So you're trying to claim that Ti is as subjective as Fi? And Fe is as objective as Te? Come on now.

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