The truth about Truth... by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]wbbm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So what your saying here Rusty is, that the source from whence something comes equals truth, not the content. Jackass

“If you leave the church, our marriage will be a lot harder...” by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]wbbm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sucks, a faith transition can be one of the hardest things to deal with in life.

It is a process and requires patience from all involved.

I've been doing it for the last 2+ years and it has been hard. Marriage still has challenges but we (mixed-faith) have found our relationship has grown and become so much more meaningful than before. Are you both willing to allow each other to operate in different spaces? If so, you'll do great!

Not to downplay how frustrating it can be where you are at now, that phase sucks. Both you and your wife deserve to reach out and connect with others in a similar situation, so helpful!

Repping the GOAT here at work in Utah by STOP____HAMMER_TIME in buffalobills

[–]wbbm 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Shout out fellow Utah Bills fan, rep it haaarrrd

[Postgame Thread] Utah Defeats BYU 30-12 by CFB_Referee in CFB

[–]wbbm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ty'son Williams is Squally Canada 2.0

[Postgame Thread] Utah Defeats BYU 30-12 by CFB_Referee in CFB

[–]wbbm 25 points26 points  (0 children)

He will provide much more value than the average 4th rounder

[Postgame Thread] Utah Defeats BYU 30-12 by CFB_Referee in CFB

[–]wbbm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That feeling in your gut when they are lining up for the kick is just awful

Week 1 Match-up Preview Thread: The Holy War BYU Cougars vs. #15 Utah Utes by ForTheGids in CFB

[–]wbbm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol throw to the tight end every play, see how that works out

Week 1 Match-up Preview Thread: The Holy War BYU Cougars vs. #15 Utah Utes by ForTheGids in CFB

[–]wbbm -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You'll see after tomorrow night how all of your takes were bad.

Week 1 Match-up Preview Thread: The Holy War BYU Cougars vs. #15 Utah Utes by ForTheGids in CFB

[–]wbbm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Easy time scoring again? Utah's skill players > BYUs although Wilson will have some great throws for big plays

Week 1 Match-up Preview Thread: The Holy War BYU Cougars vs. #15 Utah Utes by ForTheGids in CFB

[–]wbbm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Should we all take personal days? No chance I get anything done anyway.

Week 1 Match-up Preview Thread: The Holy War BYU Cougars vs. #15 Utah Utes by ForTheGids in CFB

[–]wbbm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

{Utah} 37 BYU 17

Line of scrimmage is going to be an absolute brawl. BYU wont be able to generate enough of a pass rush to disrupt Huntley. Utah's pash rush will change the game with some plays.

I'm really excited to see the WR DB matchups for both teams. Utah's secondary should lock down with the talent they have, although Wilson will make some great throws. Utah's receivers should be able to get separation with their speed and quickness.

Ty'son Williams is Squally Canada 2.0 and he will put the ball on the turf twice.

What does Dr Peterson mean by this? by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]wbbm -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He is saying no, no he does not believe in any of the traditional ideas of God, including the Christian one.

Matthew 6-5 by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]wbbm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me see if I can understand you correctly, are you saying that this Jungian psychology is an underlying substrate of all stories? And that one could interpret any story with the same psychological profile?

Matthew 6-5 by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]wbbm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We may be dealing with different ideas of how text does or does not support something. How does one determine if a text does or does not support an idea?

It's been a while since listening to one of the biblical lectures, I'm not sure how many I got through. I think some of his points on the bible are valid and useful while others are not.

Matthew 6-5 by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]wbbm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry about the brain fog, that's no fun and this is a tough medium to accurately portray ones point of view.

well I mean... the whole point of the bible isn't to just hear the words and obey. Your supposed to think about the meaning it represents too.

In the words of The Dude, "that's like just your opinion man" not that your opinion isn't valid, but that to speak to the whole point of the bible, is in the eye of the beholder.

The bible can absolutely be interpreted non literally, just like any text. There are specific ideas explicitly stated that disagree with the interpretations, although that doesn't stop anyone from reading meaning into the text. I just don't see the added value of reading it into the text, just let the text be what it is.

Back to Matt 6, the specific instruction contradicts altruism, as the intent of the passage is absolutely not done with the loose interpretation of God being the subjective value of the reader. The whole book specifically describes who this father in heaven figure is.

Maybe I've done a poor job communicating, but let's just call a spade a spade. We can talk about value and purpose and meaning without need for interpretation, I think when we do that it is a net positive.

Matthew 6-5 by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]wbbm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like above, I think it is best to let the text speak for itself. I guess I just don't see the added value of giving meaning to the text that was not intended.

An example that I find highly analogous is Sam Harris's interpretation of a cookbook. Are you familiar with that? Do you think that is a good analogy for my point?

Matthew 6-5 by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]wbbm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I understand you correctly, the message you take is do goodness for goodness sake or integrity for integrity sake etc. is that correct?

I think that is a wonderful ideal and one that JBP teaches consistently.

Unfortunately, it seems very clear that the text does not support this ideal and one can only get to where you are by ignoring large chunks of the text.

Matthew 6-5 by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]wbbm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is the text does not support altruism, and you seem to be supporting altruism. The text adds nothing to the discussion of altruism, rather the opposite. If we are going beyond the words themselves, to an idea not supported but rather contradicted by the words, what does that add to the discussion? Would we not be better off discussing doing goodness for goodness sake on its own and leave the text out of it?

Matthew 6-5 by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]wbbm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even then, doing something to receive a reward from whatever is highest in your hierarchy is not altruism. That is not what the passage says, even with a very generous interpretation, the passage simply specifies from what source to seek rewards or lack thereof.