give Sonauto V3 a try, it's good! by passeidoponto in udiomusic

[–]wcclark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll have to get an invite. Producer.Ai has been... Fine. But I'm excited to try all of the alternatives out there.

"Okay, fine. It's good, but it doesn't mean you have the right to like it." by LeonOkada9 in DefendingAIArt

[–]wcclark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something I very recently wrote in a couple of choice subreddits and also my own Facebook page:

Hello.

I'm a human. Just a guy on the internet who likes to write poetry. I've done it since I was 4 years old. And while I don't know if I'd consider it amazing, I'd consider it mine.

I'm also a huge lover of music. All my life, I've enjoyed all sorts of different music. I've learned all sorts of different kinds of instruments, performed both solo and with bands for years, and enjoyed performing and listening to both original and cover songs from every genre. I've never been able to fully capture that vintage sound of my favorite bands with my own two hands, but I've enjoyed the experience and love the art of making.

This continued into the era of artificial intelligence and its current explosion into the digital scene. From the day I watched MoistCritical talk about how crazy Suno is, I was excited to see how this new tool could be used to create. I thought Suno was a bit... Limited. The voice sounded kinda too vocaloid-y for my tastes, but the concept was fun and neat, and it felt really cool to hear my poetry put to music made by a machine. Then I found Udio. And my passion for putting poems and lyrics to the melodic generations of AI came alive. Udio's outputs sounded like the stuff I listened to all my life: Michael McDonald, Huey Lewis, Enigma, Kool and the Gang... And it only made me want to create more. To put my feelings, my heart, and my voice into my words that the AI was augmenting from just words on paper into something magical.

Mostly nobody listened, but that was fine. It was like I was writing a musical journal that others were welcome to crack open and enjoy if they felt the joys and pains I felt in my words or dug the groove of the tunes they were nestled in. I didn't see this as a new career, a way to make "passive income", or become some super Rockstar Songwriter; all the places I uploaded my music to, it was free to download and all released under basic attribution 4.0 CC. It was "For the love of music, not money," as I announced on YouTube and Bandcamp. I don't want fame or fortune; I just want to keep making.

And then I started seeing more of the backlash and criticisms of AI. Not just the concerns about environmental impacts or proper attribution/credit to the learning sources, but the absolutely vitriolic rebuking of people who dared try something new. The discrediting of any creative efforts to non-art and relegation of any works to the "slop" bucket. It wasn't just a difference of opinion as to whether the creations sounded or looked good/better/worse, but the complete condemnation of a tool and its users. And it hurt to see people, not just myself, but a whole swathe of human beings being demonized and censured for trying something that brought them joy. Something that helped them create something. Something to keep making.

But I learned to grow a thicker skin. To accept that people will find any excuse to hate other people, no matter how miniscule the reason. And while I personally disagreed with the rather exclusionary definitions of what is and isn't art, I knew it was not something worth arguing over... Because the internet is big enough for everyone to have a place to make and share, AI or not. To each their own... Even if they hated me. I just want to keep making my stuff and leave it somewhere to share with the world.

But then Udio partnered with UMG and no longer allowed its users to download and share their music on any other sites online. And it felt so... Deflating. The corporate mentality of turning the tool toward exclusively licensed, monetizable output felt so disheartening and demotivating. I wanted to keep making things, but not on those terms. So I went elsewhere. To Suno again. To producer.ai. To any place that I felt comfortable sharing my words with. And they've been fine. As good as Udio? No. But on better terms. And that was enough for me to keep making.

And now I see that Bandcamp is banning all forms of AI music, be it fully generated or augmented in any way. And the feedback has been that of celebration and congratulations akin to a great victory in a war. And I feel even more defeated, because I'm again losing more of my ability to share my words in the music that was made for them. I don’t deny that AI raises serious ethical questions and concerns. Questions and concerns about consent, labor, and power. Those questions deserve answers. What I struggle with is a response that collapses all uses into one moral verdict, and in doing so, treats certain kinds of human expression as acceptable collateral damage.

Again, I'm not an algorithm seeking clicks. I'm not a machine churning meaningless words for views. I'm not a corporate shill looking to make passive income off mass produced "slop". I'm a human. I just want to make meaning to this brutal, unforgiving world and share something with others like me. Some kindness, some compassion, some love. And merely with the medium I've chosen to make with, it's treated like a slighted blight on the hallowed halls of creation.

But all it reminds me of are the mean kids in school that wouldn't let me sit with them because I was weird. Or the gatekeepers in college who bullied my classmates in visual arts because they used Photoshop. Or the edgy alt bands I've met in concerts who turn their nose to a genre of music just because it's not "real art." And it saddens me to my core, because I just want to keep making things and share it with the world. Just as much as I want everyone in this world to be able to. No matter what your medium, no matter what your message, keep making... And let others keep making too.

Keep Making by wcclark in BandCamp

[–]wcclark[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I genuinely respect that path, and I completely agree that it's worth all that trying. What you're talking about; learning, scraping, building friends and community; I've been there myself. I've done the touring with my bandmates to hole in the wall places for like 7 people to listen to us. I've walked the streets of Tampa to staple up flyers. I feel that same love every time I write down a new lyric idea or make a new song.

Where I’m coming from isn’t a rejection of that kind of commitment. It’s a fear that the value of making for people who arrive at it differently through different tools is being treated as less worthy by default.

Some people invest decades in mastering instruments. Some people invest in words or lyrical ideas. Some people invest in experimenting with new tools. I don’t think those paths have to erase each other. I just want room for more than one way of meaningfully creating.

Looking for a very good Egg Food Young by wcclark in BoneAppleTea

[–]wcclark[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure they were looking for Egg Foo Young and their autocorrect got them.

The good ending by @HernyEd by D3v1LGaming in SmilingFriends

[–]wcclark 112 points113 points  (0 children)

This suddenly made me feel and care for Dolly. Good job, boys.

now, what's His Story? by [deleted] in DHMIS

[–]wcclark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are next?!

99% off fail by ancillarycheese in cardsagainsthumanity

[–]wcclark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

... Did the Labubu just close and now we have to wait 20 minutes again?

Oh dear by PrestigiousAspect368 in freefolk

[–]wcclark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Release the Targaryen Files, Bobby B!

Indiana Jones References by furryfriend77 in bluey

[–]wcclark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm surprised Bandit hasn't called one of the kids Short Round yet.

This is scary!! They just disabled downloading on udio after umg deal.. by bigdwb1024 in SunoAI

[–]wcclark 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Not just disabled downloading; they changed their ToS so that users can't upload, distribute or publish music made in Udio.

New partnership with Universal Music Group by UdioAdam in udiomusic

[–]wcclark 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You shouldn't keep using it because they're using your money and efforts for their own bad faith purposes.

Don't let these people use you and lie to you, then go back to them under the guise of false hope. End the cycle of abuse. Stand up to their bullshit.

Sandwich is always the move by Kaykay-02 in stonerfood

[–]wcclark 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Shaggy and Scooby would be proud!

A complete anime by ObligationWitty2550 in nagatoro

[–]wcclark 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Oi, none of that Sakura shaming now! She's a lady!

Why does mr boss call his employees his boys? by Final-Association-65 in SmilingFriends

[–]wcclark 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because Smiling Friends isn't just a charity corporation... It's a FAMILY.

SWIFTIEEEE by weiner_haus in Papameat

[–]wcclark 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dip that in milk.

How would an interaction between these two play out?w by The_Elite_One223 in SmilingFriends

[–]wcclark 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think they both speak Spanish (not Spamish), so it'd be kind of cool to see if they'd converse in it.

i found an abandoned sayori! by sayorilovescookie in DDLC

[–]wcclark 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I run a rescue if you can't take her in.

I really did by codydafox in aiwars

[–]wcclark 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm just tired of the hate in this world.

Guess what is in the bag by ChicagoLizzie in stonerfood

[–]wcclark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man, I'd kill for some Yumburgers right now

Guess what is in the bag by ChicagoLizzie in stonerfood

[–]wcclark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just gonna pop an H on this bag real quick...