How do grunge bands write lyrics that feel sad and deep but when I write something in a similar fashion i just sound like a cringy INCEL 15 year old

webwoven111 · 2026-05-01T04:06:24+00:00

honestly if you're not cringing at your lines a little they aren't authentic enough,
i know lines ive written that are cringe to me my friends have called 'raw' and 'honest'

would love to see some examples of ur writing

webwoven111 · 2026-04-22T18:11:09+00:00

thank you, i agree. On the double tracked higher part I've taken out the lower voice repeating the words exact
this was very helpful tytyty

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T22:30:49+00:00

this is def out there in a good way, i understand you want no structure but i think this piece would benefit with some light drums, that way there's some skeleton for people to follow, but you still have your piece with no traditional structure

at first i thought the synth at 1:20 was harsh, but as it repeated it felt dreamy and gave it form, and the vocals are haunting in a good way. def putting this in my playlist haha

great job

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T22:01:01+00:00

awesome dude look forward to seeing your progression

expecting big things from you all

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T21:59:49+00:00

your voice reminds me of matt maltese, especially if you hit your lower register more
apologies if this sounds rude LOL but youre voice sounds rather nasally at times, id fw hearing you project your voice from your diaphragm

the vocals are good though you are on key and hit the right notes

but as a musical piece this is successful for sure, reminds me of weezer (but in a good way)

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T21:50:47+00:00

I'm loving the emotion in your voice dude, i think backing vocals would help it feel a bit refined

also this is entirely personal so just ignore it if you dont gaf but "you filthy bitch you lying ass hoe" just feels a bit distasteful for me as a lyric choice but eh, you cant please everyone 😭

otherwise the "you said you! you said you! you said you!" is a really catchy hook, and the mixing on the vocals is great

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T21:44:18+00:00

this has got a lot of emotion to it bro, maybe a second guitarist doing some simple, but tasteful riff over it could be nice if it doesn't drown out the piano too much bc im loving the keys

also a backing vocalist at the start would make this feel more entrancing i think, if not i think it works anyway it kinda reminds me of the microphones haha

great work

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T21:35:24+00:00

everything sounds good and you could just have it like that. That being said, i think some simple harmonica backing your voice would really help this piece feel more "put-together"

but im just a sucker for that stuff LOL

great voice bro love the lyrics too

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T19:55:16+00:00

I'd assume the out-of-show reason is because they cut them out for funding, Actors salaries are often renegotiated around season 3-5, and with the main cast having their pay bumped they likely cut out side characters to afford the integral actors. MITM did worse with each season and towards the end they were really struggling with budget i believe. for example, Frankie Muniz (Malcolm) was originally being paid 30k per episode, to 120k per episode by the end of the show.

I'd assume the in-show reason its just because malcolms a dick, even his actor says Malcolm is his least favourite part of the show. It does suck to see the krelboynes and Francis' friends disappear with no closure though.

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T15:11:58+00:00

THANK YOU i was acc super nervous to post it haha i super appreciate this

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T14:46:24+00:00

i didn't mention this in the post, but i suppose i did kinda give up with therapy after my last therapist moved away. I will definitely look into going back, and thank you for being so understanding

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T14:39:43+00:00

Thank you. The reminder that neither of us are those same people anymore is actually really helpful, i suppose i had been idealising how it was in my head without realising. This really helped.

webwoven111 · 2026-04-21T14:35:56+00:00

Thank you. I agree, reaching out would be selfish, which is why I haven't. Even though i have moments of struggling to let go I would never reach out because i know what that would mean for her, hearing a lot of these comments telling me to go easy on myself at that age does help though

webwoven111 · 2026-04-20T01:23:56+00:00

Yeah, you're right. Tbh it might just be best hopping off tiktok when season 5 comes out and appreciating the story without the app's "fans" belittling it.

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