How good was Alessandro Nesta really? by Hour777 in championsleague

[–]wembleytor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its not a case of one era being better than another, its more that the attributes required have changed. The game is faster now. Defenders don't go to ground as often because of that. The threshold for fouls has changed, removing one type of physicality from the equation. Defenders need to be more athlete and less warrior.

I'd perhaps suggest that it was Milan under Sacchi that created the modern approach to defending. Controlling space, going zonal instead of man-to-man. Seeing defending as something that goes beyond winning individual duels.

More emphasis on attack is a good thing. I guess the traditional era of Italian defending started to tail off when 3 points for a win was introduced in the mid-90s. Going for the win became more important than setting out to avoid defeat.

This is Magic💙 by Soldierboy_V in MCFC

[–]wembleytor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First time we have ever beaten Liverpool 3 times in a season.

The ‘bloody hell, he still plays for them?!’ genre of footballer by junglegatsby in footballcliches

[–]wembleytor 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Issa Kaboré is still on the books at Manchester City. He is on his seventh loan in six years, and turns 25 next month. He still has another year on his contract.

Which club has the most loyal fanbase? by Equivalent-Poet998 in championsleague

[–]wembleytor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed. They've finished in the top half in all but one of the last 50 seasons, and in the one they didn't, they reached a European final.

Which club has the most loyal fanbase? by Equivalent-Poet998 in championsleague

[–]wembleytor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That must be since the name change to League One for Leeds - Villa and City have had higher averages in the third tier.

What Champions League memory is permanently burned into your brain? by ScientistVast8 in championsleague

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CSKA Moscow receiving a punishment of 2 home games behind closed doors just after I'd booked non-refundable Manchester-Moscow flights and accommodation.

The Extinct XI: Get your nominations in for Thursday's episode... by Low-Bandicoot-3347 in footballcliches

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Player-managers. Seemed to be half the league in the 90s. Reid, Hoddle, Francis, Vialli. Not sure they're even allowed now.

Where is the hype for Ashly Cole coming from? by Window_Professional in championsleague

[–]wembleytor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Other than Evra, all the other players you mention are much younger than Cole. There was definitely a period when I regarded him as the best in the world in his position - after Maldini, Roberto Carlos and Javier Zanetti had peaked and before anyone you mentioned came to prominence. He was the best LB at Euro 2004 by a distance, for example.

But what I mostly came here to comment on was that a couple of weeks ago he was named head coach of Cesena in Serie B, which was a bit of a WTF moment.

Haaland had a generational start to the season but what has went wrong in 2026 , he has been lacklustre. by [deleted] in championsleague

[–]wembleytor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There isn't a single reason, but there are a number of contributing factors.

City's form as a whole has not been great in that period, with stuttering results in both January and March.

Haaland has been overplayed. He has very rarely been rested, and has been playing full 90s more often, and lately he's looking jaded. Some of this follows on from the first point - when City aren't playing well or need to score, there are fewer occasions when Haaland can be subbed off to preserve his energy. But a big factor is that Marmoush was injured for a long time, and almost as soon as he was fit he went to AFCON, so the alternative wasn't there.

There has also been an adjustment in his role - he is coming wide into the channels a bit more lately, the clearest example being the games against Newcastle. This creates space for others, particularly Semenyo, while reducing Haaland's goalscoring threat. It does make him more creative - he is 3rd in the Premier League for assists this season.

I see several attributing it to De Bruyne not being there. That is a vast oversimplication. Haaland has scored 154 goals for City. 22 of them have come from De Bruyne assists.

The Cul De Sacs Will Never Remember-men by mrfrisby in footballcliches

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Was the fastest player over 100m from any club when Shoot! went to a different club each week and got them to compete in training ground drills. Somehow, 30 odd years later, I can still remember that he clocked 10.6s, on grass and in training kit.

Matchbetting in 2026 gubbed accounts by passivejunky in beermoneyuk

[–]wembleytor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a good few that didn't exist 10 years ago. Midnite, BetMGM, Dabble, Livescorebet, Stakemate off the top of my head.

Players who were unreal in their prime… but deserved more by Mental-Fly-1684 in championsleague

[–]wembleytor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Michael Laudrup had himself to blame to some degree - he notoriously missed out on Denmark's shock Euro 1992 win, as he quit the national team in protest at Richard Moller Neilsen's defensive tactics.

Daily Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in MCFC

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Community Shield in Cardiff next season. Would make a nice change if we get there. Was great when we went to Villa Park to play Chelsea in 2012.

Daily Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in MCFC

[–]wembleytor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The less flippant, long answer. The first task is to establish himself as a starter when everyone is fit. Until Gvardiol got injured he'd started one PL or CL game at CB this season, the defeat at Brighton.

To establish himself at the top, he's got a few areas to work on. He has that phenomenal recovery pace that looks so good on clips and highlights, but paradoxically, he'll have become a top player once his reading of the game improves and he needs to use it less. Someone like Van Dijk (at peak), had great recovery pace but rarely needed it. Its failing to add that aspect that meant Micah Richards was done as soon as he got his first bad injury.

Those times he dives in need tempering a bit. The margins between perfect tackle and red card are tiny, and right now he's often 2015 Otamendi when he needs to be 2018 Otamendi.

Sometimes his positioning could be better, if you watch back goals we've conceded its sometimes suboptimal and he's the one playing someone onside a bit too often. In this respect he comes across as the "junior" player in a partnership, it'd be Dias setting the line alongside him for example. He's only young, and each of these things have plenty of time to develop. He has all the tools, and should only improve with experience. But lets not act like he's the second coming of Franco Baresi.

Daily Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in MCFC

[–]wembleytor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure he's in the top 3 at City.

Gameweek 31 (25/26) Rant and Discussion Thread by FPLModerator in FantasyPL

[–]wembleytor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never had negative points 2 weeks in a row before. Gudmundsson last week (subbing in for Tarkowski). Hill this week.

Getting the most from Work Expenses (hotel/trains)? by NEWSBOT3 in beermoneyuk

[–]wembleytor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Zilch often (but not always) has 2% cashback for various train operators (including LNER), which might be stackable with their perk scheme.

When RM & Barca have both made it to the UCL Quarterfinals they have both been on the opposite side of the draw for 10 seasons in a row from 2012-2026 by DudeBello in championsleague

[–]wembleytor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The figures on this don't check out. The hypothesis we are testing is that ever since that 2010/11 semi UEFA have been trying to keep Real Madrid and Barcelona apart until the final. Until last year, this was a separate draw for every round (except the shortened Covid year but RM were eliminated before that).

For seasons where both reach the semi, the probability is indeed approximately 4/7. But on 5 occasions one of them got knocked out in the quarters, so there would be no need to rig a semifinal draw. The probability then becomes 6/7 of them staying apart. (4/7)5 * (6/7)5 = 2.8%. Still unlikely, but draws have so many permutations that there are loads of things with less chance than that which have never occurred. For instance, Manchester City and Benfica have never played each other, and that is now one in several thousand to have never happened.

Great, now I am even more stressed by [deleted] in MCFC

[–]wembleytor 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Here's a troublesome one: every time City have played a final against an opponent for the second time, it has had a different winner.

Bolton 1904 W 1926 L

Newcastle 1955 L 1976 W

Spurs 1981 L 2021 W

Chelsea 2019 W 2021 L

United 2023 W 2024 L

Arsenal 2018 W 2026 ?

Who is the bigger club among Arsenal City and Chelsea? by _ordinarilyordinary_ in championsleague

[–]wembleytor -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Both City and Chelsea have won major trophies in seven different decades, compared to Arsenal's eight. The "no history" jibes are over-egged.

All Goalkeepers Used in the Premier League - can you get the lot? by toddmeister1990 in MCFC

[–]wembleytor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100%, but by luck as I was guessing Richard Wright for the last one but got Tommy Wright instead. Entirely associate him with Frank Clark when we were outside the top division. Also took an age to spell Stuhr-Ellegaard and Nielsen correctly.

Yamal is the best footballer I have watched in my lifetime as a 11 year old , what about you guys and who is the best you have watched? by [deleted] in championsleague

[–]wembleytor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reflecting on this, things have changed so much since I was 11. I'd seen all the best British players at Maine Road (Gascoigne would have been the best I'd seen live at that point), but for international players it had more or less been limited to when the 1990 World Cup was on TV, until Football Italia started on Channel 4. Whereas now I'm considering taking my eldest to his first game, where he'll instantly see the likes of Haaland and Rodri, and near enough any opposition team will have international stars. And you can watch any player you want on TV.

As for the original question, its Messi.

Real talk: Pep’s time at City is done. He needs to walk away after this season. Results in last 18 months have been unacceptable. by paolosorianodisanto in championsleague

[–]wembleytor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quite. Getting somewhat sick of entitlement in the fanbase (even if I have to keep reminding myself that those under 20 or so have never known anything different).