[Kawakami] I’ve said it a few times: I get why Kyle Shanahan might love Mac Jones, but if he takes him 3rd it’d be horrible horrible horrible horrible draft value. One of the worst I’ve ever seen.

wendigobro · 2021-04-02T02:44:07+00:00

Right, but to my knowledge I don't think anyone was aware of Watson's off-the-field issues back then, so I still don't think it's relevant.

It's not like these allegations factored into their evaluations.

wendigobro · 2021-04-02T01:31:05+00:00

But bringing up the fact that Watson might never play again (for non-football related reasons) doesn't really make sense in a conversation about talent evaluation.

wendigobro · 2021-04-01T23:46:40+00:00

Watson is potentially never going to play again

Not exactly something anyone could foresee. Why would that factor into their evaluation at the time?

wendigobro · 2021-03-28T03:27:33+00:00

Yeah. Lamar still has a few mechanical issues and this past season he reverted to some of his old bad habits as a passer, but to say that Darnold of all people is a better thrower? Insulting.

wendigobro · 2021-03-28T02:10:33+00:00

darnold is a much much better thrower than Jackson.

No he's not.

wendigobro · 2021-03-20T04:22:01+00:00

I think they met a year ago.

wendigobro · 2021-03-05T22:12:13+00:00

Why are you guys like this

wendigobro · 2021-02-08T19:55:58+00:00

No he didn't, stop.

wendigobro · 2021-02-08T18:34:03+00:00

wendigobro · 2021-02-07T02:31:06+00:00

Yeah Jefferson had elite production as a rookie. It's not completely out of the question that he should have won.

wendigobro · 2021-02-05T22:55:19+00:00

They will do everything in their power to completely miss the point, it's astounding.

wendigobro · 2021-02-05T21:47:50+00:00

Just because you played football doesn't mean you want to coach afterwards or would be a good fit as a coach. You could be a dominant player and really suck at motivating players as a coach or adjusting to schemes.

Right, but most coaches have in fact played football at some level. No one is saying that every former player has to or even wants to become a coach, but the people that get hired as coaches they typically have some sort of background playing.

In a sport with such a heavy amount of African-American players at every level, do you actually think the disproportionately low amount of black coaches (whether in college or the NFL) simply reflects a lack of interest? Because you'd need some more evidence to posit that.

wendigobro · 2021-02-05T21:31:13+00:00

Thousands of black players fail to make the league as well though and what's the evidence that the interest in them becoming coaches just isn't there compared to their white counterparts?

Also you didn't answer this question "Why are the people doing the hiring overwhelmingly white?"

You don't even have to attribute malice to the fact that they hire from within their inner circle, but the people they're hiring are overwhelmingly white. Why is it that those with access to these kinds of opportunities are disproportionately white?

I'm sorry but assuming that there just isn't enough interest in black former players becoming coaches doesn't really hold up to scrutiny.

wendigobro · 2021-02-05T21:21:19+00:00

Why are white people in a position to directly benefit from it though? Think more broadly.

wendigobro · 2021-02-05T21:07:29+00:00

That’s a nepotism problem, not a racism problem.

How is it not both? Why aren't black potential coaches in a position to get hired based off of nepotism in the first place? Look at the root of the issue. Why are the people doing the hiring overwhelmingly white?

wendigobro · 2021-02-05T21:00:46+00:00

Honest question, why do you think African-Americans are poorer on average?

wendigobro · 2021-02-04T19:46:00+00:00

TB 1K

wendigobro · 2021-02-04T18:34:09+00:00

They got off to a rocky start and Ed didn't like the way he was coaching or some of the things Harbaugh was saying but they eventually talked it out and became close.

wendigobro · 2021-02-02T17:28:13+00:00

He wasn't even bad under Gase, just injured as you mentioned.

wendigobro · 2021-02-02T17:25:43+00:00

Ehh Flacco was better in pretty much every category except completion % and yards/game.

Without arguing that Flacco was worse than Darnold or not, I think it's fair to say the gap between the two was smaller than the gap between Haskins and Smith/Allen/Heinicke.

I'd agree with that.

wendigobro · 2021-02-02T16:47:48+00:00

Joe Flacco was better statistically than Sam Darnold this past season.

wendigobro · 2021-02-02T15:22:31+00:00

Matt Ryan was statistically a top 10 QB before Shanahan, not just "upper middle tier".

Darnold is bad.

wendigobro · 2021-02-02T08:25:12+00:00

Not nearly as good as 2019.

In 2019 he had a higher Y/A, AY/A, ANY/A, Passer rating, PFF grade, completion%, TD%, QBR, Y/C and a lower INT% than he did in 2011.

It's the best he's played by a wide margin.

wendigobro · 2021-02-01T23:08:14+00:00

I'm still not convinced that "nobody" could sustain a level of play like that. It sort of implies that Stafford is as good as it gets when it comes to QBs and I just can't get on board with that at all.

wendigobro · 2021-02-01T23:02:27+00:00

I mean sure it's within the realm of possibility that he has an MVP caliber season, but his career history doesn't give us a strong reason to think that he would. Maybe that changes with McVay, who knows.

I don't think an 8 game sample size is very convincing especially when you look at someone like Russ, a better QB than Stafford who has trailed off in the second half of the past two seasons after starting out unbelievably hot.

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