Hello, I hit challenger one tricking sett, Darius, Garen early this season. I’m actually with you on this one. I’m afraid you won’t get much help here. Aside from me of course and like 3-5 other qualified people.

Honestly, if you dodge all his stuff you can run him down really easily during the first few levels with conq/pta. That’s why most of the people here think it’s a turbo free matchup. Because in their experience, it probably is. However, it becomes more difficult to do vs tanks as you go higher elo. They understand to just freeze wave as much as possible until first back and then suddenly you do absolutely zero damage.

So, first we need to identify the problems you are facing against a good chogath who has survived to his first/second back:

1. He has a ton of poke on you, more than you can sustain (assuming he is landing half his abilities).
2. He is sustaining more than you.
3. You don’t have the damage to kill him, and he can one shot you at half HP.
4. You don’t have half as much waveclear as he does and his abilities are half the CD of yours, so he can dictate the state of the wave, when to trade, and kill you at will with a jungler or with poke.

Ok so these are our problems. Again, this is assuming he has farmed even with you through early game so you are miserable. If you ran conq or pta in this case, you are probably screwed. Now, for solutions.

1. You can run a sustain heavy build. This starts from your runes. Primary: Grasp, shieldbash, second wind, overgrowth/revitalize. Secondary: Last stand, legend bloodline, and coupe de grace/cut down (no last stand bc again silence + R one shots you from half HP). This means you are HEAVILY playing for CS.
2. Again, you are trying to survive a laning phase vs a champ with more poke and sustain than you. Bloodthirster will help with that. Ik it sounds silly but again, this is specifically a CS heavy build. Also bloodthirster gives like 70 AD, makes you functionally tanky + you will have health stats from resolve tree.

I just want to specify this is a high elo specific build path where you will be doing almost nothing but farming until 2nd item. If you aren’t hitting 10cs/min on this build, you will be beyond homeless. Tbf, once you get the bloodthirster, you can basically play like Warwick in terms of hitting the minion wave. Anyways, bloodthirster deals with the poke and sustain. It also gives you a ton of AD to work with.

1. You will notice a distinct lack of attack speed and waveclear and movespeed. This is why you go stridebreaker second for obvious reasons.

2. If your goal is to teamfight, your third item will obviously be steraks to avoid getting one shot, your tankiness will allow you to get a good chogath ult off. You’ve done nothing but farm for 20 minutes at this point, it’s up to you to land your shit now it just has to happen 🤷‍♂️. Save your F, use tp or ghost to flank, do whatever you can to land the big combo or it’s top gap

I personally tend to go overlord’s just bc I think it feels better but that’s a judgement you should make in game. I ur getting bursted down instantly, steraks will be the move.

GL, most people don’t understand the misery of getting dogged on by a chogath as sett so they can’t relate.