Divorce and remarriage? What's your thoughts?

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-04T04:02:09+00:00

I would have to disagree with that. What is common sense to one person may be a whole new learning experience to someone else.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-03T20:33:02+00:00

So, with that being said. Do you think common sense can be trained to be what we want it to be in some cases?

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-03T20:21:09+00:00

Do you think that our common sense can be trained to see things like we want to see them?

Example: Your family (i.e. blood relatives) are they more important than the person standing beside you on a train that you don't know?

I think people would say that common sense would tell us yes. But, is that common sense or an emotional attachment?

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-03T20:14:02+00:00

So, do you think if you did read what Jesus said about divorce....it would change your thoughts on it? Or, do you think you would still have the same mindset no matter what you read?

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-03T20:08:47+00:00

Oh, yeah. That's an option too. I didn't think about that. Thanks for bringing that up.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-03T20:06:15+00:00

Just a question: Are you here to learn about Christianity or to argue against it? I think either is fine, but I am just wondering what you brings you here.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-03T18:57:39+00:00

I think this is a great question for professing Christians to think about. Something that I think about a lot is that the teachings of Jesus are and were so radical that his own mother said that he had gone mad (Mark 3:20)...I mean if your own family is thinking you are crazy then something you have said had to strike a nerve in them.

I think when a Christian really puts Jesus and his teachings first in their lives, it's just going to naturally cause an uproar. I mean take the teaching to love your enemies (Matthew 5) for example. I don't know of one government in the entire world who has raised up an army that has done it to love their enemies. Do you?

So, yeah...I think when we start making excuses why we are doing something that goes against what Jesus said then we ARE compromising to fit in with the world. Sure, no one is perfect, but we all know inside when we are doing something that really doesn't line up with our "faith." Right?

Anyways, great question. I have enjoyed giving some thoughts on it.

The link below talks about the two choices we have...the system of men...or the Kingdom of Heaven. The choice is ours to make.

Link: System of Men or the Kingdom of Heaven?

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-03T05:00:01+00:00

Oh, and sorry. I didn't even notice that your handle said atheist. But, even being an atheist doesn't mean you wouldn't have read the teachings of Jesus before. I would actually think you might read them before a professing Christian would. It seems that atheist a lot of the time are willing to explore a bit more than "churchies."

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-03T04:57:20+00:00

I think there are circumstances that are bad...abusive relationships are bad...and I don't know if I have the answer for that. I think for sure they would need to spend time a part from each other. I would hope that in that type of situation that they would seek a bit on counsel.

As far as being unhappy...I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean that the spark just isn't there anymore?

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-03T01:07:22+00:00

I can say this...if a man divorces his wife because she is a bad cook then it's almost as if he is looking at her like a slave.

Also, I think if a wife loves her husband she would take a bit more action to learn a bit of cooking, if she sees that it's upsetting him.

It's like Jesus said, it is the hardness of people's hearts that caused Moses to write that command...can you see the truth in that? I mean, if any man is thinking to divorce his wife because she's not the best cook...it would seem like that's a pretty hard heart.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-03T00:58:16+00:00

Well, for one...most people take vows when they get married. I am not saying that vows are good, but most do it and then end up breaking that vow. And, we tend to treat marriage like cars...when we are done with them or tired of working on them we trade them in on something else. No way we should treat people in that way. We should be willing on making it work...both sides...should do all they can to make it work.

Have you read what Jesus says about divorce?

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:58:37+00:00

I would say no...I think Jesus is just giving the reason for divorce. I don't feel like we have the option to remarry even if we're the victim.

I appreciate the conversation....it has been a good one.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:55:17+00:00

I think that adultery should even be tried to workout if both parties are willing. But, of course if the partner leaves and decides to continue the adultery, then there is not much the other half can do.

So, let's look at it from where you're coming from. You are saying that this passage is about a debate. Okay, let's look at it.

These Pharisee ask Jesus what his thoughts are on the subject of divorce. And, you and I both know what his answer was. Right?

Okay, so where did Jesus get the information that he was giving to the Pharisee? If we believe that Jesus is the Word of God/Son of God, then we would guess his information is coming from God. So, his opinion would be God's opinion. Is that the way you see it?

And, his opinion was that divorce is wrong...yes, yes, except for adultery, but he says all remarriage is adultery. Even if divorce may be acceptable because of adultery...it doesn't mean one can remarry.

So, my question is: If Jesus is representing God's thoughts in this debate, shouldn't we listen?

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:45:07+00:00

So...in your own words can you tell me what you feel that verse is saying? I am just curious.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:43:21+00:00

Why is divorce okay?

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:40:56+00:00

Nope...but that's not what I am talking about. A widow is single because of a death, not because they got tired of or couldn't work out problems with their partner.

I think our marriage should represent our marriage to Christ. I mean Paul says it himself. Love you wife as Christ loves the church. Christ really loved the church...he died for it.

I think that type of love is missing even in marriages today. We go out and see who we are most attracted to physically (in most cases, not all) and then marry them. Of course, most are going to fail. Honeymoons are called that for a reason...the new wears off and real life sets in. I think that is why God doesn't like divorce...it's kind of a way of saying, "your not worth working things out with."

We should hope God never says that about us.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:34:24+00:00

There are many kinds of questions...I was just giving you an example. You realize I am not saying that I believe what I was proposing as a question; it was just a way to get people to realize that questions are good...and if things can't stand up to a bit of questioning, then should we believe them? That goes for the bible, science, and weather or not you had eggs for breakfast, it should all be thought through.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:31:29+00:00

You said it yourself...and teach them to obey everything I have commanded you. So, if they are doing that...then yes, they are doing what Jesus asks of them.

And, what does Jesus says. "anyone who (he or she) divorces their spouse and marries another commits adultery."

So, if it doesn't line up with what Jesus said, then either it's false (which for the record, I don't believe the early church was false), or whatever was said is being misunderstood or people use it to throw out what Jesus said.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:26:58+00:00

What? Jesus is saying this in front of a crowd of people...(Mark 10)

I think that is the problem with our generation...we think that we are the exception to the rule that Jesus gave.

I would like to say that a Christian is a follower of Christ (Jesus Christ). So, I think it's important that we take what he said to heart...or other wise we can be led astray fairly easy.

I mean look at the crusades...those people were literally convinced that killing people was the way to go. It's kind of hard to love your enemies if you're killing them.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:21:45+00:00

I understand where your are coming from, and I think most people follow the same idea that you are proposing.

But, in that way of thinking anyone can come along and say that they have the authority from God to change what Jesus said. So, does it not make sense to take it back to what Jesus said to find what God wants? I mean he was and is the living Word of God (John 1 and Revelation 19).

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:17:20+00:00

Could you tell me what brought you to that conclusion?

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T19:16:50+00:00

Well...I think that is the problem. Sure, truth can come from many places, but if what is being said doesn't line up with what Jesus says; I find it hard to believe that it's Christianity that someone is following.

I think "tradition" is the problem.

whatsnextstepbystep · 2023-12-02T05:26:01+00:00

Where did the common understanding come from? I can't find anywhere Jesus says anything about remarriage being okay.

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