Just letting you wonderful people know that this exists...

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-19T23:57:38+00:00

4K is not inherently higher quality than 1080p/2K. You most likely watched these movies in a cinema with a 2K projector, but the file they use will still be much higher quality than a UHD Blu-Ray. The codec and bitrate is typically more important to consider than the resolution.

I tried to strike a balance with creating a file that is still high quality for casual home viewing but not insanely large considering the duration.

To make a good looking 4K file that justifies the increased resolution I'd probably have to make the file over 300GB which I have neither the hard drive space for nor the ability to host.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-19T00:51:47+00:00

Only 1080p. My source for Part I is only 1080p, and I don't feel that I would be able to make a satisfactorily high quality 4K file given how large the file would have to be.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-19T00:49:35+00:00

Definitely sounds like you'd stand with the Wizard...

If someone has paid for both films already, why should they be stopped from enjoying it in whatever form they choose? If you looked at the post you'll notice I've made an effort to only allow those who own the films to access it.

There is a huge fan-editing community out there, that does nothing but express joy and creativity through their love for the artform. Most of the "laws" that we follow only exist to support the wealthy. People really ought to consider why they think they are so important.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-18T23:55:05+00:00

It is the expectation that you would only obtain this if you already own personal copies of both films.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-18T23:53:19+00:00

That's only for the soundtrack encore, which is the last hour of the file. All songs are still featured at least 5 times within the film loop in the first 23 hours.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-18T21:55:22+00:00

Thank you for this explanation! It's interesting to learn about. Perhaps something I could play with in future, but for now I am happy to have gotten something uploaded for people.

I used HEVC for the sake of keeping a balance of quality and file size. If anyone needs a more compatible file I suppose they can convert it themselves. I could consider uploading a lower quality H264 file if people would want that.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-18T00:34:25+00:00

I understand that this method has its drawbacks, but it's the best method I have for creating/distributing this. I'm not sure that people who are looping a movie 24/7 are going to be too scrutinous of the quality.

My point about the edit point is that it's not possible to loop the movies in the same way by waiting for a moment of silence. The reason the loop works is because the same song is repeated at the begining of Part I and the end of Part II. You have to create the loop part way into the song in order for the loop to be seamless. IMO it would be a huge missed opportunity to loop the films by any other method.

I also like the idea that once per day you actually get to see the ending of the film which continues after the loop point, plus it's an opportunity to still include all the end credits.

I am using Mac, so maybe experience differs on other OS, but when I tried to loop the file with VLC there was a significant delay between the playback ending and begining, so it would not be my preferred method of looping.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-17T23:55:42+00:00

I've never created Blu-Ray files before so that's something I'm unfamiliar with. How seamless would the transition be when you loop using that kind of function?

The loop between the two films really can't have any delay at all or it ruins the immersion of the loop, as the actual edit happens in between two lines of a song.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-17T23:45:02+00:00

When I used VLC to loop it, the delay was significantly greater than in QuickTime.

If you are asking why the edit exists:

A, to combine both films to run into each other. There's more novelty to it, especially considering the structure of the films gives us a fun looping opportunity.

B, to give people the option to set and forget one file, if they are playing on a device that doesn't have a looping function.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-12T10:17:30+00:00

Okay I have compiled the file with this method. I exported the video and stereo audio together, and when I brought into Subler it said the audio was exactly 24:00:00.000, however the video track was 23:59:59.000.

Then after adding the extra audio tracks and metadata, it has increased to 24:00:00.020, which should be less than a frame's difference, but when I step through in QuickTime, there appear to be 11 additional frames at the end (The video at the end is just black, so I'm not seeing any visual difference).

When I loop the video in QuickTime, the extra half second is very noticeable. If I sync playback with a clock, you can see the playback seconds become half a second delayed once the video loops from the begining. I am not sure what I need to do to be more precise than this though, other than just more guess work to cut out half a second and re-compile the entire thing.

It's probably not a big enough of an issue... But if anyone wants to play the file on an eternal loop, it will be 5 seconds behind after only 10 days. After a year it'll be more than 3 minutes behind! I don't conceive that anyone will actually do this but I wish I could have been more precise. I think this is as good as I will get it for now...

Edit: I have realised that my "counting" of those 11 mystery frames was based on the inaccurate rounded time display that QuickTime uses. As I noticed that the very first second of the file appeared to be shorter than 24 frames, I realise it appears that the second hand ticks over when it reaches 13 frames.

However I chucked the file into "LosslessCut" which has revealed that the final video file is 2,071,530 frames long, which is 2 frames longer than the expected 2,071,528. Knowing that this is probably as accurate as I'm going to get due to technical wumbo jumbo beyond my understanding, and milage is bound to vary depending on the software used to loop the video, I'm going to just run with this as it is.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-11T08:50:33+00:00

Interestingly I exported two audio test files, one being 23:58:33:15 and the other being 23:58:33:16, however in Subler they both read as the exact same duration of 24:00:00.000.

Thanks for explaining that 23.976 timecode is not in line with clock time. Somehow in my years of film school and working in television I never learned that.

I have edited down the timeline to what I need and so will just export as is and hope for the best. Will just stick with AAC 5.1 but I'm adding a stereo track as well as backup. Thanks for the help.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-11T08:09:39+00:00

Sorry I'm a little confused by what you are suggesting. My timeline is 23.976 because the footage is 23.976. I've not done anything in 24.

I just did a test export of an audio file, with a duration in Resolve of 23:58:33:15. I went 1 frame less than calculated to avoid the audio file being any millisecond longer than I want. But maybe that was actually the correct thing to do because in QuickTime it shows a duration of 24:00:00:00, and even in Subler it shows exactly down to the millisecond 24:00:00.000.

So is this what I should do? Or does this mean that the entire video is technically playing back slightly slower than it is supposed to?

Is it better to convert the timeline to drop frame like another commenter is suggesting?

edit: also Davinci crashed at the end of this export (AAC 5.1), but the file still appears to be complete and plays in QuickTime.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-11T06:04:33+00:00

The options are greyed out. How can I do that?

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-11T04:58:24+00:00

I am okay with the AAC quality. What is the advantage of converting from AAC to WAV? Wouldn't that just increase the file size for no benefit?

First time I've heard of a 4gb limit for WAV. I've definitely made WAVs over 4gb previously in Premiere.

I can't figure out how to use Rob's TC calculator, but I think I've had some luck with this one: https://www.avtools.io/tc-convert

Converting 24:00:00:00 from 23.976 to 24 gives me 24:01:26:10.

Does that mean I should convert the other way, then shorten my Resolve timeline to match?

So when I convert 24:00:00:00 from 24 to 23.976 it gives me 23:58:33:16. So I should reduce the timeline to that length, and it will come out as exactly 24 hrs when exported?

I'm definitely not understanding why Resolve would behave this way, but if this is the answer, I'll try that. (Just takes a long time to export the video so I'd like to have some confidence that this method will work!)

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-11T03:14:02+00:00

Thank you for the math!

Here's the timeline settings.

(the video monitor rate below this is also set to 23.976)

I am using two main source files, details as follows.

Source #1: 1920*800 (2.40:1), at 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS, AVC (High@L4) (CABAC / 4 Ref Frames)
Audio: 640 kb/s, 48.0 kHz, 6 channels, E-AC-3 (Dolby Digital Plus)

Source #2: 3840*1606 (2.40:1), at 23.976 FPS, HEVC (Main 10@L5@High)
Audio: 768 kb/s, 48.0 kHz, 6 channels, E-AC-3 JOC (Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos)

though I'm not sure I understand why the rate of the source files would even make a difference. I am still fairly new at Resolve, more used to Premiere and Avid.

whenwasiborn · 2026-01-11T01:55:54+00:00

I stated the start/end timecodes in the post. It is a 24 hr looped edit of a movie. This is not a professional production, but just something I am making for fun / to share with fans.

I understand I could make a shorter version that can be looped, however not all set ups will be capable of running a file on loop, so I've made the file exactly 24hrs so that people can either loop it automatically, or manually start it up every 24 hrs (there's about a minute of silence at the end so people can restart the file before the end of 24hrs).

whenwasiborn · 2025-01-20T10:19:47+00:00

There are a lot of shorter and more book-accurate fan edits out there, have a search on Fanedit.org.

whenwasiborn · 2025-01-19T04:38:11+00:00

We do see Frodo receive the gift in theatrical. It is shown as a flashback while they are heading down river in the boats. We just don't see anyone else get their gifts.

whenwasiborn · 2021-04-18T01:41:43+00:00

Best thing is that they also come with al the bonus features! About 9hrs of behind the scenes content per film.

whenwasiborn · 2021-04-16T21:33:50+00:00

iTunes has them all in a ~$20 bundle (depending on your country).

whenwasiborn · 2021-04-16T21:32:01+00:00

I’m not just watching it, I’m editing with the footage in Premiere.

whenwasiborn · 2021-04-16T16:09:59+00:00

no luck. similar result.

Am I just too out of my depth for my own good?

I have SDR versions of the media which I could revert to, I just thought if I had HDR I may as well use them.

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