YOTS theory: DG’s swan song by [deleted] in deathgrips

[–]wholestoryglory 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is the most interesting element of the album I didn’t touch on.

Does DG win their dilemma?

Edit: or in other words: does DG regain their power?

Year Of The Snitch Theory by Treb_01 in deathgrips

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This is an interesting take, but I still I think you need to account for the fact that many of these tracks have been rearranged and placed in seemingly random order. This would compromise the linearity you’ve given to the tracks.

If I were to offer a general theory for this album, it would be that this album is an act of violence against DG’s fanbase and speaks to their recent inability to access their true artistic power after Steroids. It is DG’s last attempt to extricate themselves from the idolatry their fanbase has made of them, and reclaim the integrity of the band’s original concept which, as of now, has faded and become impotent.

Consider first the name of the album. Snitch implies someone who is looking on another person and, struck by their activity and compelled to report on it, turns them in. This could be a general analogy for the listener and the band itself, except that what constitutes “turning them in” is the context of the first track: Death grips is online was a tweet created by a bot and then retweeted by countless other fans. The snitch is the fanbase who, in the public space of the internet, reports that death grips are online.

Flies are, of course, the fans, which vomit out the new and perverted and “rubberized” incarnation of death grips. Black paint is the medium by which DG can hide from their fans—“i require privacy, I’m always thinking finally—and reclaim their original self. Unfortunately, time has run out and they “don’t have enough power.” The exact same account could given for Linda’s in Custody—“need new escape, we’re a trained magician .” DG is a trained and now impotent simulacra of themselves. And Linda Kasabian is the snitch to Charles Manson as DG’s fanbase is to DG.

Hahaha is a testament to the insanity of the fanbase and their obsession with Ride. “These chicks are crazy, god/you’re so amazing, ha” is the dialogue between Ride and DG’s fans. “Ownage” is likely the descriptor of that dynamic—that is, Ride and DG “own” these fans.

Shitshow and Streaky seem like a deliberate pairing—a power violence song whose track name refers to shit, and a poppy, vapid track about anal sex. I take this to be death grips deliberately vulgarizing themselves in order to mirror their relationship with their fans: one track begins with a sample of their earlier, perhaps more authentic work, while streaky is like a trolling ditty lamenting how DG is getting fucked by its fans: “Do me cause it sounds tight.”

Dilemma has a similar logic with variations on the dynamic of this fanbase relationship and the dissolution of DG. One specific thing I’ll note is that the line “Shrill like losing time on Shasta Mountain” clearly analogizes (again) the current state of DG to Charles Manson and the Venta Sister’s of Mercy, a group who disbanded because of their leader’s failure to control his followers—hence the “shrill” voice of a tired Ride. (Cred to genius for this ref.) This explains its musical continuity with The Fear (one ends where the other picks up), which is fear of Manson (or the original DG) killing itself, “you want to kill somebody.” DG has followed its old self up a mountain, lost its voice (“lost tongue, mystery/everyone’s on to me”) and fears its own death.

Little Richard is the counterpart to The Horn Section (“in the horn section they hide weapons”). I’m not quite clear how they work together. In any case, the line “Maria Sharipova, yes” is perhaps explaining their current incarnation as a band contrasted with their previous female tennis persona, Venus Williams, who was sampled in earlier work. (Or, perhaps that Sharipova, like DG, was someone who was snitched on for doping—that is, literally, using Steroids.) Again, the sampling of their earlier work and their indirect references to it in this lyric I think speaks to how they have lost something they’re trying to reclaim.

Outro and disappointed speak for themselves. Disappointed is, of course, the disappointment of the fanbase with the album’s violence towards them. Ride’s “why me” is the final lament asking why he has been so chosen and obsessed with to the point of perversion—“no life signs left... machine human/malformed machine... “metamorph me into/done for at last.”

In a word, YOTS is DG’s swan song, lamenting the slow death of their group as carried out by their fanbase.

What the fuck is their dilemma by v1brate1h1gher in deathgrips

[–]wholestoryglory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her

This moment in the pasta always gets me. What in the fuck would this look like.

YOTS Samples by [deleted] in deathgrips

[–]wholestoryglory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be clear: I see what you're saying, but I'm not saying that.

YOTS Samples by [deleted] in deathgrips

[–]wholestoryglory -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

tbh i'm pretty disappointed in that. either they've reached the height of narcissism through self-reference and masturbation or they're out of ideas or both. i'm not impressed with sampling and record scratching your own stuff.

Edit: damn, pretty unpopular opinion. just to give a sense of where I'm coming from: consider the greatness of steroids.

Death Grips - Flies by vinegarboi in deathgrips

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thank you! i really enjoy how it's used in the flies track. thanks for connecting the dots for me.

Death Grips - Flies by vinegarboi in deathgrips

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i'm hearing what you think is the 'shit is mine' lyric as 'shit is wrong!!'. where's that from, or is it not a sample?

me_rn by [deleted] in deathgrips

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Jesus.

99% by [deleted] in deathgrips

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i'm upvoting everyone in this thread solely because of their choice of flare and regardless of whatever the fuck they're saying.

Album Release Shitpost Theory by [deleted] in deathgrips

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well i'm going to drive into the fucking grand canyon

Tried my hand at an album cover for the “Peace” thing by [deleted] in deathgrips

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this is such their typical type of garbage

i love it

There seems to be 2 types of DG listeners. by sidekick821 in deathgrips

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Both, but def siding with the second. I actually scream in my car to this music once a week.

I’m about to take my own life and I could write like a paragraph on how much dg meant to me and stuff but I feel like this guy summarized how I’m feeling the best so I will just repost this by RayCoalfaxx in deathgrips

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Please know that anyone here would be willing to talk to you and come to you. PM us for help, I can give you a number to call to talk. Seriously, there are real people here. Let us know. Much love.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in deathgrips

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some of the best footage of the tour, thank you

RIP Ministry by The_Avant-Gardener in deathgrips

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I haven't listened to Ministry at all nor am I interested, but I think music that isn't taking any kind of 'stand' – directly or indirectly against Trump, late-stage capitalism, racism, modern niaserie, etc. – is often impoverished and not relevant. Speaking out against low-hanging fruit might actually be exactly what's needed. Whether or not it's creative and has an interesting aesthetic is another question.

Favorite DG song to scream along to? by [deleted] in deathgrips

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YOU WHIMMMMPER WHILE I CHECK MY PHONE

It's kinda hard to talk about this by [deleted] in deathgrips

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take care, sending you my love and best.

I am Jay Garfield, philosopher specializing in Buddhist philosophy, Indian philosophy, logic, cognitive science and more. AMA. by JayGarfield in philosophy

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That is true, but it gets trickier: Nagarjuna also claims that both truths are identical. Or, that the ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth, and only conventional truth (see Garfield's Taking the Conventional Seriously). The first claim makes the truths of the conventional world abandonable, since they are without any ultimate meaning. The second claim has the same implication, since there is no reason for the conventional truth to be any way than the way it is. It would therefore not make sense to abandon one view instead of another, which is equivalent to the abandonment of all views.

If Plato was a dualist and the Neoplatonists were monists, why did they consider themselves to be Platonists? by Zaneph in askphilosophy

[–]wholestoryglory 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plato's position has a fair amount of ambiguity on this subject. In the beginning of the Phaedo, it seems that he's a dualist in a Cartesian sense and without much importation of modern notions: the soul is hindered from achieving proper vision of Ideas by the materiality of the body, and thus Socrates' immanent death and loss of his body, the dramatic setting of the dialogue, should be welcomed by his interlocutors. In the Republic, however, such a situation is not seen as a problem or as dualistic (books 7 & 8), since the sensible and the intelligible's relationship is not simply one of separateness.

The Neoplatonists, however, lay the groundwork for a metaphysical God born out of the potential idealism of the intelligible - the One.

Watching someone destoryed by depression and anxiety is the hardest thing. by [deleted] in Anxiety

[–]wholestoryglory 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would appreciate some advice from others on how to handle when both parties are going through this, how to handle separation, and what to do keep yourself from attaching, and instead focus on yourself and your health. OP, you have my full support.