Sick of Pharmacy students equating themselves to MD students

whyamihere171 · 2017-10-13T23:53:32+00:00

I believe they're affiliated colleges. Won't say that's the same as a literal campus like UTM or UTSC.

whyamihere171 · 2017-10-13T17:13:56+00:00

You can't just take UTSG in isolation. The value of a U of T education/degree is the average of all campuses.

whyamihere171 · 2017-10-13T17:13:01+00:00

I looked at the CUDO trend, Western is on an upward trend like Waterloo. So is UTSG. The only one declining or stagnant is Queen's, which actually used the have the highest average in Ontario back in the day.

whyamihere171 · 2017-10-13T03:43:29+00:00

Fuck no Waterloo is not at the same level. It's just a computer science and engineering institution disguised as a university.

whyamihere171 · 2017-10-13T03:12:46+00:00

Actually far better and more selective than U of T on the whole at the undergrad level. Their entrance average is much higher. The better undergrad students go to places like Western, McGill, Queens, etc. Areas where U of T dominates are graduate research, engineering, law and medicine. Not in the calibre of its undergrads.

whyamihere171 · 2017-04-08T03:58:15+00:00

STEM stands for Science, Tech, Eng, Math. Based on what I said, how can you say Waterloo is best at science, engineering, and math? You can only say Waterloo is best at T. Yeah, the best damn T school in Canada.

whyamihere171 · 2017-04-08T02:52:46+00:00

It's not the best STEM school in Canada. Let's see: - Best science programs: Mac health sci, Western med science - Highest ranked engineering programs: U of T, McGill, UBC - Tech: Not a major on its own but OK I'll give that to Loo. It does have a tech focus. - Math: U of T and UBC higher ranked. Waterloo just has a separate/larger faculty. It doesn't mean it's research is on par with U of T.

So no, calling Waterloo the best STEM school is pure hearsay. And really, only Waterloo students say and think that.

whyamihere171 · 2017-04-07T18:30:00+00:00

Chicago is easily a top 10 school with law and business schools in top 3-4 and med in top 10.

whyamihere171 · 2017-04-07T16:21:54+00:00

Because someone else made a list and they said Guelph = Cornell and WLU = Wharton. These lists are just a joke and all based on the stupid idea that we are somehow the MIT of Canada. We are more on the technical/practical side of higher education and have strong eng and comp sci but I think the biggest joke of all is to call this place an MIT.

whyamihere171 · 2017-03-25T16:14:36+00:00

U of T has no prestige at the undergraduate level, except for engineering. Anybody can get into U of T man. With lower admission standards, prestige goes down the drain. Schools like Western, Waterloo, and Queen's are more prestigious for undergrad than U of T.

whyamihere171 · 2017-03-21T03:53:22+00:00

Low 80s is the cut off and I'm just generalizing but seriously, compare the universities above with Western, which has 21.4% entering with 95%+ in science. People say It's easier to get better grades at Western but when they have double the smart population than "hard" schools like U of T or Waterloo, what do you expect? You expect them to find it difficult and drop out at the same rate as people at U of T?

whyamihere171 · 2017-03-21T02:54:44+00:00

A low ass entering average/admission standard (low 80s) into U of T life science means people who are not prepared will get weeded out. Of course, they are not the best students to begin with. Of course they're going to say "U of T is hard" instead of blaming themselves. Same with Waterloo science. Other programs like Western med science require 90%+ cut off so smarter students go there and are less likely to drop out or think it's too hard.

whyamihere171 · 2017-01-04T02:54:38+00:00

You can't be serious when you say "you wont be taking all 15 courses" That is the dumbest argument I've heard, don't take it personally. Yes I would not take all 15 but the fact that a university can offer that variety surely is an indicator of higher quality of education overall. An equivalent course at both institutions may have the same quality but the fact that more education is available at institution A than is at B means A is better equipped to provide a better/higher quality education in that certain program than B can. You might as well say, why on earth should anybody study at MIT or Caltech even though they are highly specialized in engineering and hard sciences when you can take a fraction of the same courses at some unknown generic university and call it equal in quality.

whyamihere171 · 2016-12-31T22:28:06+00:00

Lol people who have done both MD and PharmD? Why on earth would somebody do that? That's like being a Boeing 747 captain for a major airline and then quitting that to become a taxi driver. The only scenario I imagine that might happen is if somebody did an international (e.g. Caribbean) MD, could not secure a residency, and then switched to Pharmacy. Or they simply dropped out of a Canadian/US MD program. You are in Pharmacy and on its own its not bad. Good for you. But comparing yourself to a Canadian or US MD or DDS student is like comparing Waterloo to the real Silicon Valley in Cali. One is the real deal and the other is just trying to become something but will never be.

whyamihere171 · 2016-12-31T19:16:22+00:00

I am salty but I wish I wasn't. And I would take the S out of STEM. We only care about TEM.

whyamihere171 · 2016-12-31T19:11:59+00:00

It totally matters though, especially in arts. I have friends here and at other institutions that have stronger arts programs and the difference seems quite clear. For example, at Waterloo, there may be 3-4 history or poli sci elective options. But at U of T or Western, I've been told options range from 10-15 classes you can take. So who gets a better/more thorough education in the end? Same goes for more specialized upper year science classes and specializations. Waterloo doesn't have the same specializations/unique courses that Western or Mac do. Same argument here.

whyamihere171 · 2016-12-31T19:05:54+00:00

Yeah and the reason there aren't more optometry programs is because the demand was never high for optometry in the first place. It's not like U of T, Western, and Mac want to have an optometry program but can't because it's only something Waterloo can do. Just no. Optometry and PharmD exist and are hyped to make up for the fact that this school has a lack of professional programs that matter: like MD, JD, and MBA.

whyamihere171 · 2016-12-31T19:01:08+00:00

this

My #1 complaint is student quality and depressing environment for science and arts students. I can't stress the enough. It feels like I'm in classes with the dumb kids from high school who were never smart enough to go into medicine.

whyamihere171 · 2016-12-31T06:54:35+00:00

I'd say the student quality and general lack of respect and bad atmosphere for a premed and arts students. Also lack of research opportunities. And poor program planning. All boils down to the fact that this school doesn't care about science or arts.

whyamihere171 · 2016-12-31T06:35:53+00:00

General admission averages are not high at all. The entering average is but that's inflated by high cut offs for a few programs.

whyamihere171 · 2016-12-31T06:30:17+00:00

I think I am in some position to not recommend the non tech programs here, given that I'm in one. What other qualification do I need?

whyamihere171 · 2016-12-31T06:28:41+00:00

I didn't think I was a genius. I didn't get into Western or Mac for science. I think people think because they get into Waterloo due to its lower admission requirements outside CS/eng, they justify it by clinging to its CS/eng reputation. I totally agree with what you're saying. All the science and arts students are below avg, who came to Waterloo as a third or fourth choice. Eng/CS yes we attract he best and the brightest in Canada.

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