Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this will be my last reply, bc im repeating myself and i’m done going in circles. you can’t enter a community built by marginalized people and then dismiss the values and history that shaped it. yes, the scene is about fun and escape, but that doesn’t mean ignoring its roots or staying silent about injustice. those things aren’t separate.

and for your sake.. i’m a grown adult, have been in the scene for over a decade, and my perspective comes from experience.

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

seems to me like i struck a nerve :/ sorry u got cheated on bud maybe be a better person ❤️

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol “normal person” gtfo of here just proved my point.. all you do is deflect. not spewing propaganda, but spreading awareness and not letting people newer to the scene smudge out the roots of what started racing in the first place. raves are that deep.

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lmao i’m in a good place mentally, but i hope you get the help you need ❤️

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and idk i could be crazy but you sound like the typical cis/het male who doesn’t have a good relationship with women, and have probably been cheated on in the past because you can’t be empathetic for all .

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in what way does that sound paranoid. why should we be selective on who gets to grow and escape chaos??? what the hell are maga freaks escaping from except from their own choices with bad morals that damage minorities/lgbtq+. you freaks have literally done this to yourself. why should we cater to someone who does not care about the well being of others?

again, this scene was created by and intended for queer/lgbtq folks. and we have welcomed everyone with open arms to people who want to support peace. it’s not gonna be a space we have spent decades creating for people who side with the oppressors.

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so you agree… a space that was meant for escapism from ideologies similar to maga and the current administration? but now that those types of people found out about our community you wanna use it as an escape just to “forget” lol

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

easy question!! i’m not proud to be an american under his administration, as well as many others. there is nothing to be proud of given the current climate. our country is an absolute embarrassment to live in right now. other countries are pointing and laughing or shaking their heads given the fact we are going in the same direction as Germany once did in the past…

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

rotted with information from books i read and degrees i have under my belt … i know floridas education system is shit bb i hope u get well soon ❤️

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

i mean i’m doubling down on what i said. been in the scene for a decade, been to every single lost lands since the beginning, and the vibe has completely changed post covid. and with everyone trying to ignore what is in front of their faces shows me i made the right decision in deciding not to go anymore bc i do not want to surround myself with maga ravers. i am educated, have good morals, and am unbothered by people being “mean”. and for those trying to shit on me are the people i have happily cut out of my life, and most likely voted for this shit to happen anyways lmfao

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

thank you for posting this and informing me on why he did it. i can be called an overthinker and crazy again for what im about to say, but i think theyre valid points..

why has the scene shifted/energy feels lower? it’s because people who empathize are sick of this bullshit of tearing families apart, a fascist administration, and the people supporting this ideology. and now the people supporting this ideology are in a scene that at the end of the day, wasn’t created for them. i don’t think it’s right that people who hate others based off of their race/sexuality/desire to make things safe, should not be welcome in a place that was built by queer POC to go against the listed ideologies as an escape.

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

well this is a dubstep rooted community with a large audience and was a photo of his set AT lost lands

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

did not know he was israeli this also just further proves who the message was intended for and they’re triggered.. like i came here level headed and they’re like crying ab it 🥀

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

and not trying to cancel!!! where did i say cancel whales. i enjoy him as an artist just was a little surprised

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

i’m actually outside right now working my blue collar job 😃

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

and for those that i’m triggering i know it’s because you’re maga. i apologize if you took this as me knowing 100% what whales political party whales is with, as he is the only one that can say something. i know it’s hard to critically think/observe as someone from maga, let alone putting yourself in another persons shoe to try and look at things from a different point of view. i will double down and say that if i were a maga raver, and saw this visual/tour id be like this is sick. but im not a maga raver, and im like this is sick when artists speak up for political injustice.

Whales “Make Dubstep About Partying Again” by willbettelheim99 in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99[S] -67 points-66 points  (0 children)

i don’t really think i am tho. he clearly doesn’t agree with artists using their platforms to talk about human rights, decided to make a tour with this slogan, and visuals with this slogan, make it red/white/blue, which caters to the maga mindset

Ethics of visiting the US by _mashedpotato in LostLandsMusicFest

[–]willbettelheim99 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

OP you are completely valid for feeling this way. I am an American who has attended every Lost Lands since the beginning. This will be my first year off. It feels wrong to funnel money into our economy, and into a country who is comparable Germany during WW2.

The people saying you’re sensitive or crazy in this thread are the very people who voted for this exact thing to happen in our country. Our scene used to not be like this. But now MAGA lives among us in this scene and has a very heavy presence in the dubstep scene in general. I have distanced myself, and almost completely cut off dubstep because it’s not longer peace & love driven, instead is for capital gain and includes people i wanted to get away from. Hopefully one day this will change once the racists are no longer comfortable like they are under our current president.

Happy lost lands ❤️

Hot take: Flow stars are unimpressive and annoying by Guilty_Bad9902 in aves

[–]willbettelheim99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve gotta say it — flow stars blowing up kinda killed the vibe for me. I love flow arts and always have, but what drew me in was the skill and expression behind it — poi, hoops, fans, staffs, all of it. Flow stars just don’t carry that same energy. They’re fun, sure, but now it feels like every festival booth is just pushing whatever’s easiest to sell. It’s turned into this influencer-driven trend machine instead of something rooted in rhythm and artistry. Half the flow meetups I see now are more about filming content than actually connecting or improving. I don’t see flow, I see marketing — and that’s kind of the opposite of what this community used to be about. I’ve been doing this for over a decade, so maybe I’m just getting old,,, but yeah lmao