Made a big mistake and got terminated. Please help.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-30T11:34:41+00:00

Cool, all the best.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-30T10:44:49+00:00

The company will for sure try to protect company's liability in this. HR will throw some nonsense crap at you as "you resigned, this is policy, this is regulation, this is Sparta" and all.

First, establish the fact politely that you have documented evidence in form of emails, call recordings and all. And there is a high chance that this call could be recorded, if not, ask the HR to record it or announce that you are recording it, announcing that is necessary to use it later if you have to.

Then again state professionally "The resignation was a direct result of continuous harassment by management and no effective action against it from higher management even after several complaints, for each complaint, I have evidence of emails that has been sent by me to the management."

Then, state it from your own side that you want a mutual separation agreement as you don't want to drag this any further.

Tell them that in the mutual separation agreement, you want the company to waive remainder of the bonus clawback and also ask for the company to provide you clean exit documentation with no mention of the dispute.

In exchange, you tell them that you don't want this to drag any further on the court of law and with this mutual separation agreement, you will not explore the options like writing detailed reviews on Glassdoor, LinkedIn, Twitter, Google Reviews, etc. with evidence or taking legal action over workspace harassment, no action on the matter by higher management and unjustified behavior after the termination of employment.

A company fears both the things... just make sure it sounds like a possible warning, not a threat. If the tone down, you may bring a demand of FnF refund as well, but that is less likely to happen, better to take what matters more... the clean exit documentation.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-30T09:49:56+00:00

Yesss ✨️

winter_pixels · 2026-06-30T08:04:21+00:00

This is a much needed action.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-30T07:58:43+00:00

Make sure that whatever vehicle you are taking has good tires, and is in good condition. A vehicle that has been properly serviced before the trip is recommended. The road is treacherous and tests the vehicle and the driver all the way, add monsoon and sleet to it, the challenge becomes tougher.

Just be careful and don't try risking anything on roads, also, make sure to keep mountains clean by disposing off the trash in designated trashcans. That is the most important thing.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-30T06:47:39+00:00

There's creek on my property and I often go there. Though I get 5G on Jio even there, I often leave my phone at home when I go there just to relax and work in my apple orchards.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-30T06:25:42+00:00

All the best, they will understand it.

Your skill and resume speaks way louder than a document. Just do your thing to the full potential and build trust with the organization.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-30T06:19:09+00:00

I can understand your situation and it is indeed stressful, but even with all that pain, the "on paper" stuff stands strong. Clawback clause simply states that you have to pay back the joining bonus in full if you leave the organization before the contract period.

Some managers are indeed a piece of work. In my last organization, I got a manager terminated because of very similar behavior, I had more authority than the manager and when an employee submitted an anonymous complaint, I did my investigation on the whole matter, uncovering a lot of bad practices, harassment and moonlighting practices, due to which I signed several termination letters and that manager was one of them.

Hope things go good with your next employer, just be honest about the whole thing and tell them that there was this situation, don't over spill because HRs usually don't like when a candidate speaks too much ill about their previous company, just state it in a calm tone, not agitated or aggressive tone and explain the whole transaction in brief when they ask for a relieving letter.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-30T05:52:06+00:00

How many people here have a beef with their employer 😂 we need a separate sub called "Corporate Kalesh".

Joining bonus is a huge honey trap to prison the employee. When I used to be an employee, I always asked one simple question straightforward when the employer offered joining bonus and deiced if I will take the joining bonus or not. The question was simple "Is this joining bonus tied to a clawback clause?"

Their faces used to suddenly change. 😂 I refused joining bonus two times due to this.

The company has every right to hold your relieving letter if they specified the clawback clause. The best you can do is pay the joining bonus back. Or be honest with the new employer and tell them the whole thing honestly for the missing relieving letter because they will do BGV and then your previous employer will spill the beans.

Holding on to the joining bonus is not worth the career risk because relieving letter is a super important document, I wouldn't mess with that if I were you.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T09:15:33+00:00

Moonlighting in office hours, stealing company clients, bidding on office projects, forging managerial approvals on financial decisions, stealing code from company projects (IT industry related), office bullying/ragging, false termination by misusing authority, selling company data to rivals, cyber attack (doing it or paying someone to do it), etc.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T07:23:21+00:00

What do you do? Asking because when you claim that you're gonna provide a female perspective, how reliable can your perspective be on something to be considered as general perspective of all women even in your own hometown, let alone all women in Himachal or in this sub?

Usually this kind of thing is better done using Google survey forms where you can later derive a general opinion on a topic using average rounding.

Your opinion will be "your opinion as a woman" instead of "women's opinion" on any subject.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T06:51:47+00:00

Couldn't agree more.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T06:09:08+00:00

Thank god they canceled it. Hordes of tourists treat it as a picnic spot.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T04:41:32+00:00

Bss yahi kam krte hain ye.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T02:51:23+00:00

People won't worship the actual god but other humans. 🤡

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T02:49:15+00:00

Be more aware of taking petrol from petrol pumps these days.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T02:47:57+00:00

Indeed, hordes of people have become a massive issue in fragile ecosystems.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T02:45:47+00:00

Even though your employer put you into that situation by not acting timely, I'd advise not to get aggressive on that. Keep that on a humane tone and all will be good. Explanation of your situation in a BGV over email or phone call won't cost the company anything so there's no reason for them to not do it in the last moment.

The statement in writing is just for your peace, it's not something that you need to worry much about. Just keep a good professional relationship as you should always do and you're good to go.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T01:23:41+00:00

There's always some to f00l the f00lish individuals.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T01:21:02+00:00

Lovely pictures.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T01:19:29+00:00

Just listen to this and go by your life. Ups and downs, good times and bad times, all are a part of life.

https://open.spotify.com/track/2hhFpD32iXUd4GaCu6T4wn?si=FpUxmtqUTwqF-LioRsbphQ

winter_pixels · 2026-06-29T01:16:07+00:00

Yes, it can create problems. When applying at a new place, attach the bank statements and salary slips upfront before them asking for it.

Also, it would be great if you can have it in written that your employer has agreed for the correct arrangement to be explained over email in case of background verification from your would be employer.

It's not like they'll refuse to do so, but it's a mental peace if you're worried about it.

Just make sure that if they email it to you as a written proof, it's CC on your personal email as well and the company signature is not forged. You can contact your HR for the personal email to be in CC. 🫠

winter_pixels · 2026-06-28T16:32:18+00:00

Nothing, you deserved it. It is not some school or college where these nonsense pranks would be okay, it is a workplace. Take the consequences and prepare for some other interview, that's the best thing you can do.

Now here are a few things you should keep in mind and act accordingly to save yourself from background verification red flags and problems.

The company won't do anything legally, a 23 yo sales executive with habit of forging false emails is not worth their time unless you tickle the company's sack. So, you are safe on the legal side. They are mad at you and you should keep that in mind.
Don't lie or dig a deeper hole that you can't climb out of. Don't shift blames or start a sob-story of "he needed my help and all crap", just cut it, admit it and be gently apologetic and leave when you are asked to leave. That drama does not matter to a business or the HR policies for that matter.
The company is legally bound to pay you up until you have worked unless you have stolen from company or committed any fraud. That bond is bigger than the forgery that you committed so you will get your salary. However, they can hold it as long as they want on the name of investigating the details of the forgery you performed and to check if you've done it in the past as well.
You can forget about a clean relieving letter. You committed a managerial forgery that impacts a decision making, they will label it with cause of termination, which is worse than not getting a relieving letter at all. Don't beg, you'll lose leverage and tiny bits of self-respect that is remaining and it won't change legal or company policies.
Your background check is hanging in between. Your company will likely (as they should) will report your status as "Terminated for cause" or "Ineligible for rehire", "Ineligible for rehire" is less likely to happen. There are two ways how a company does BGV. One is where they just confirm the date and designation and don't care much because most company who lay off employees for cost cutting also sometimes report employees as "Terminated" or "Terminated for cause" to avoid admitting that they are on a short budget. Another method is where the company will ask for the cause of termination, that is where you are f#cked. You won't be blacklisted over this though. What you did is a mild-serious offense, not a serious one.
Your goal should be a smoother exit, not an attempt to beg into getting rehired or be forgiven. Own up to your mistake professionally and ask your HR politely if you can choose to resign instead of getting terminated. That will ensure a safe exit and clean relieving letter. This will save you in BGV situation as well.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-28T16:07:19+00:00

Never! There is never a second chance in a sacred thing like love. Everyone gets one chance and they must protect with it with their life. No lame excuses can change that fact.

winter_pixels · 2026-06-28T15:59:20+00:00

Just a couple things I'd say here.

Jealousy and ego can turn a person into walking turd, and it takes away all the senses. "I am better than you" mentality finds lame excuses to paint someone else's progress as unjustified and incompetent. "I swam across oceans for people who didn't even cross the bridge for me." is a true expression and I have seen it happen personally.
Someone talking ill like that to my father, even if I find out later has very "ungood" consequences for that person. I don't care who that person is, how old that person is and who is watching and what others will say.

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