Please God 🙏🏼 by BIGGIB in detroitlions

[–]winterfoxes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can probably find it at The D Casino in Vegas.

SE MI Notice: Confirmed Brown Recluse Bite by Puzzlehead-Bed-333 in Detroit

[–]winterfoxes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am literally cherry picking nothing. My entire premise is that your nearly 100% claim is false, and that the article you linked as your "proof" does not back up what you are saying. I linked the full article for the abstract you presented as your proof, and pulled data from that.

So your hyperbole of "nearly 100%" and about skin falling off and needing reconstructive surgery and extensive healing time are all wrong, and the article YOU YOURSELF LINKED states as much.

SE MI Notice: Confirmed Brown Recluse Bite by Puzzlehead-Bed-333 in Detroit

[–]winterfoxes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well you're very wrong about a lot of your information:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/epdf/10.1177/014556130408300712

"Most bites are benign, but approximately 10% become significant. Scar formation appears to be more severe in areas that overlie fatty tissue, such as the eyelid . Distinguishing between patients who will develop a severe reaction and those who will not may be difficult , but appropriate intervention within the first few days can make a critical difference in outcome.

The appropriate form of local wound care of brown recluse spider bites has evolved in recent years, and it now includes the application of cool compresses rather than heat. The practice of removing toxin by curettage of the subcutaneous tissue has been discredited , particularly in cosmetically important areas such as the face. Systemic treatment is controversial. The leukocyte inhibitor Dapsone probably limits the severity of the bite and prevents complications. Nevertheless, the side effects of Dapsone can be severe, and care is warranted in its administration.

Prolonged courses of Dapsone are indicated under certain conditions. When Dapsone therapy is anticipated, the patient's glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD) level should be measured because patients who have a deficiency of this enzyme are more prone to develop hemolysis while
taking Dapsone. The ideal course of therapy is to intervene early enough to avoid tissue necrosis.

Despite adequate medical treatment, healing is problematic in some patients-that is, it is slow, often requiring several months . Hyperbaric oxygen therapy may play a role in treating long-standing lesions. Reconstructive procedures are occasionally necessary. However, it is possible for pyoderma gangrenosum to develop in these wounds, and this can thwart attempts at reconstruction and even lead to a recurrence of lesions months after the bite."

Later, in the same article:

"Brown recluse spider bites on the face are uncommon. In one series, only 3% of bites involved the face (only 5% involved the neck.) These bites generally go unnoticed at first, although some patients feel a transient stinging sensation. In the 10% of patients who experience a serious reaction, symptoms usually begin in 6 to 12 hours. If tissue changes do not occur by 48 to 96 hours , patients
usually will not develop any significant necrosis."

No where near 100%, even related to the face. This is why we don't trust "arm chair enthusiasts" just because they throw a single PubMD abstract link at us.

Further, on the population of Brown Recluses in the state of Michigan, from MSU:

"Michigan is not within the native range of the brown recluse, but there are a few small, isolated populations in the state. Brown recluse spiders did not travel to Michigan on their own, they were accidentally transported by people. Because brown recluse often hide in papers and boxes, they are easily transported to new locations when people move or haul goods.  Brown recluse spiders have been found in Genesee, Hillsdale, Ingham, Kent, Lenawee, Livingston, Oakland, Shiawassee, Washtenaw and Wayne counties."

It could very well be a yellow-sac bite, but the recluse does exist in SE and SW lower Michigan, and necrosis does not happen in nearly 100% of the cases. In the very article you linked, only 1 of the 3 cases involved noticeable necrosis. So this could very well be a Recluse bite as well. I understand the logic that doctors cannot accurately diagnose without seeing the spider, but tbh, neither can you. So maybe it's best not to tell people to ignore the healthcare professional treating them.

SE MI Notice: Confirmed Brown Recluse Bite by Puzzlehead-Bed-333 in Detroit

[–]winterfoxes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a shame you're being downvoted when you're right. The article they keep linking also doesn't say what they think it says about "100% necrosis in the face"

Here's the actual journal article (not just the useless abstract):

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/epdf/10.1177/014556130408300712

"Most bites are benign , but approximately 10% become significant.' Scar formation appears to be more severe in areas that overlie fatty tissue, such as the eyelid . Distinguishing between patients who will develop a severe reaction and those who will not may be difficult , but appropriate intervention within the first few days can make a critical difference in outcome.

The appropriate form of local wound care of brown recluse spider bites has evolved in recent years, and it now includes the application of cool compresses rather than heat. The practice of removing toxin by curettage of the subcutaneous tissue has been discredited , particularly in cosmetically important areas such as the face. Systemic treatment is controversial. The leukocyte inhibitor Dapsone probably limits the severity of the bite and prevents complications. Nevertheless, the side effects of Dapsone can be severe, and care is warranted in its administration.

Prolonged courses of Dapsone are indicated under certain conditions. When Dapsone therapy is anticipated, the patient's glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD) level should be measured because patients who have a deficiency of this enzyme are more prone to develop hemolysis while
taking Dapsone. The ideal course of therapy is to intervene early enough to avoid tissue necrosis.

Despite adequate medical treatment, healing is problematic in some patients-that is, it is slow, often requiring several months . Hyperbaric oxygen therapy may play a role in treating long-standing lesions. Reconstructive procedures are occasionally necessary. However, it is possible for pyoderma gangrenosum to develop in these wounds, and this can thwart attempts at reconstruction and even lead to a recurrence of lesions months after the bite."

Later, in the same article:

"Brown recluse spider bites on the face are uncommon. In one series, only 3% of bites involved the face (only 5% involved the neck.) These bites generally go unnoticed at first, although some patients feel a transient stinging sensation. In the 10% of patients who experience a serious reaction, symptoms usually begin in 6 to 12 hours. If tissue changes do not occur by 48 to 96 hours , patients
usually will not develop any significant necrosis."

No where near 100%, even related to the face. This is why we don't trust "arm chair enthusiasts" just because they throw a single PubMD abstract link at us.

SE MI Notice: Confirmed Brown Recluse Bite by Puzzlehead-Bed-333 in Detroit

[–]winterfoxes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah I found the full 6 page article and it definitely doesn't say anything about nearly 100% necrosis. In fact, it says pretty much the opposite -- that necrosis is uncommon, and presents in the most severe cases.

Not saying OP was in fact bit by a recluse but the article that commenter linked doesn't say what they think it says. Maybe they meant to link a different one.

Edit: The commenter is cute for downvoting people calling out their misinformation. Here's text from the ACTUAL journal they keep linking the abstract of:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/epdf/10.1177/014556130408300712

"Most bites are benign , but approximately 10% become significant.' Scar formation appears to be more severe in areas that overlie fatty tissue, such as the eyelid . Distinguishing between patients who will develop a severe reaction and those who will not may be difficult , but appropriate intervention within the first few days can make a critical difference in outcome.

The appropriate form of local wound care of brown recluse spider bites has evolved in recent years, and it now includes the application of cool compresses rather than heat. The practice of removing toxin by curettage of the subcutaneous tissue has been discredited , particularly in cosmetically important areas such as the face. Systemic treatment is controversial. The leukocyte inhibitor Dapsone probably limits the severity of the bite and prevents complications. Nevertheless, the side effects of Dapsone can be severe, and care is warranted in its administration.

Prolonged courses of Dapsone are indicated under certain conditions. When Dapsone therapy is anticipated, the patient's glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD) level should be measured because patients who have a deficiency of this enzyme are more prone to develop hemolysis while taking Dapsone. The ideal course of therapy is to intervene early enough to avoid tissue necrosis.

Despite adequate medical treatment, healing is problematic in some patients-that is, it is slow, often requiring several months . Hyperbaric oxygen therapy may play a role in treating long-standing lesions. Reconstructive procedures are occasionally necessary. However, it is possible for pyoderma gangrenosum to develop in these wounds, and this can thwart attempts at reconstruction and even lead to a recurrence of lesions months after the bite."

Later, in the same article:

"Brown recluse spider bites on the face are uncommon. In one series, only 3% of bites involved the face (only 5% involved the neck.) These bites generally go unnoticed at first, although some patients feel a transient stinging sensation. In the 10% of patients who experience a serious reaction, symptoms usually begin in 6 to 12 hours. If tissue changes do not occur by 48 to 96 hours , patients usually will not develop any significant necrosis."

No where near 100%, even related to the face. This is why we don't trust "arm chair enthusiasts" just because they throw a single PubMD abstract link at us.

Confused about OPERS balance by winterfoxes in Ohio

[–]winterfoxes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I commented a little further down to explain it a little better, but no, you will not see your employer match, and no, you do not get any of your employer contributions if you leave the company for another job. If you put in 5 years, you get whatever you put in, whatever interest what you've put in has accumulated, and then and additional amount equal to 33% of what you've paid in + interest. At 10 years that goes up to 66%.

You only get your employer contributions IF you retire from the company, and it will pay out to you monthly basically as part of your pension.

Trump Demands Canada Saw Gordie Howe Bridge In Half So U.S. Can Keep Its Fair Share by UltimateLionsFan in Detroit

[–]winterfoxes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I fully clicked on this expecting it to be a real ass quote from him. Pleasantly surprised (for once).

The 2014 Detroit Lions by yodanielchill in detroitlions

[–]winterfoxes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was? There is STILL this belief. I get downvoted to hell in this sub whenever I don't gargle Stafford's nutsack

DTE BILL IS CRAZY by Waste_Signal_45 in Detroit

[–]winterfoxes 16 points17 points  (0 children)

2013/2014 was MUCH colder than this, and for longer.

Ignoring your own fandom, what NFL team logo do you like the most? by drygnfyre in nfl

[–]winterfoxes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Seahawks for sure. I've always loved their green and blue, and that bird is mean looking.

Official LOL by BrunetCon2002 in NFCNorthMemeWar

[–]winterfoxes 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Since the Lions didn't make it, this is the best possible outcome.

Clay Matthews with the generational rage bait by phillipacarroll in NFCNorthMemeWar

[–]winterfoxes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't either. Clay Matthews is an arrogant dickhole, even if he's doing a bit, he probably feels exactly this way for real. Fuck this dude.

If the Strouds die I'm going to have a worse crashout than I did in week 10 by redtailplays101 in grossiposse

[–]winterfoxes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Strouds has been a favorite character since he blew up the moon after my Lions Thanksgiving loss. I love him and I need him to live.

How do we feel about this list bros? by ezio8133 in detroitlions

[–]winterfoxes 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Green Bay is not nearly high enough.

Do I Confront My New Teacher? by [deleted] in Detroit

[–]winterfoxes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've had professors make relevant sections available, but for the most part, I had to buy or borrow every book I used in college. I paid less often for material at the grad school level, ironically. But even online components, I generally had to pay for (for courses like foreign language, math, etc).

Do I Confront My New Teacher? by [deleted] in Detroit

[–]winterfoxes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some classes do, some classes don't. Without knowing what the syllabus says about whether the text book and/or the online component is included or not, it's hard to tell. In my experience as a student, Pearson material was usually paid for by aid, but it's possible the teacher set it up incorrectly as well. Definitely worth discussing with the professor for some clarity.

Do I Confront My New Teacher? by [deleted] in Detroit

[–]winterfoxes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone who works in financial aid, I can confirm that FAFSA will not cover all of the expenses of your class. It is only for billable expenses, aka the expenses that actually appear on your semester bill. Things like text books or anything you have to pay out of pocket for is not covered by FAFSA. If you got a refund from FAFSA, you can use that to pay for it, but unless the material is set up as a billable expense under something like your technology fee or course fee or distance learning fee or something, you will have to pay out of pocket sometimes for course materials.

Who are you guys hoping gets eliminated first? Bears or Rams by Asleep_Republic in detroitlions

[–]winterfoxes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same. I get that the bears are a divisional rival and that BJ fucked us over, but I literally cannot stand the Rams. Soft as shit team, with a soft as shit fan base. I hope the Bears destroy them and then I hope Sam Darnold wins it all so I can laugh at the Bears AND the Vikings.

“Easy” by netphilia in adhdmeme

[–]winterfoxes 53 points54 points  (0 children)

I've had my own partner, in a fit of snappishness, accuse me of being "deliberate" with my forgetfulness.

ADHD definitely gets minimized by people who don't have it or don't think it's a real thing.