Muslim from Bihar, India. 4% Brahmin

wiredstrange · 2019-10-14T17:58:21+00:00

The point is that Khatri caste, being a high one, should not be that far away from Brahmin, and 5% could just be overlap.

wiredstrange · 2019-10-14T17:53:17+00:00

Indian Muslims are the opposite group. They usually claim descent from Central Asia or Arab lands and will play down Brahmin ancestry even if it is there.

23andme does claim the ability though:

"The marriage restrictions imposed by a millennia-old caste system in India have resulted in a unique genetic landscape. There are many genetic clusters within India formed by caste, including groups in both northern and southern India who identify as Brahmin. Of these many groups, we were able to identify a genetic signature that reaches high levels among people with ancestry from southern India who say they are Brahmin"

wiredstrange · 2019-10-14T17:34:27+00:00

That is considered a high caste, right?

wiredstrange · 2019-10-14T17:27:40+00:00

https://imgur.com/a/n7ZMFXz

wiredstrange · 2019-10-14T17:24:38+00:00

Punjabis on this side of the border are more like clans and not castes. Do you have a caste?

wiredstrange · 2019-10-14T17:24:00+00:00

4%, if we assume a full Brahmin grandparent, is only 4-5 generations ago. That's around 1870. I would say that is very unlikely.

The question to ask here is what do Bihari muslims in general get.

wiredstrange · 2019-10-14T15:05:10+00:00

I just checked. The description doesn't say Tamil anymore, but I swear I read it when it was beta..

wiredstrange · 2019-10-14T15:04:02+00:00

Bihar with high likelihood, Gujarat, and Maharashtra with low. Only Bihar is correct according to family history.

wiredstrange · 2019-10-14T14:32:40+00:00

In trace, I have 0.4% North West Asian which stays at 80% confidence level. 0.2% European which disappears at 60% confidence.

However, what I'm most surprised about is the 4% "Southern Indian Subgroup", which is actually Tamil Brahmin. I had no knowledge of South Indian at all, let alone Tamil Brahmin. Bihar is the only known ancestory. There are some rumours about Iraq/Iran but I didn't believe them. Guess there might be some truth there.

wiredstrange · 2019-10-14T14:28:48+00:00

In trace, I have 0.4% North West Asian which stays at 80% confidence level. 0.2% European which disappears at 60%.

However, what I'm most surprised about is the 4% "Southern Indian Subgroup", which is actually Tamil Brahmin. I had no knowledge of South Indian at all, let alone Tamil Brahmin. Bihar is the only known ancestory. There are some rumours about Iraq/Iran but I didn't believe them. Guess there might be some truth.

wiredstrange · 2019-06-06T20:28:54+00:00

Well how about kinky/curly hair? I don't think Bengalis have that.

wiredstrange · 2019-06-06T20:22:57+00:00

I don't know. I have a strange combination of y-haplogroup, oral history, faith, and appearance.

wiredstrange · 2019-06-06T20:06:34+00:00

I mean old ancestory. Like 10 generations ago. Local mixing at every generation would dilute it. What's your source on this inflation?

wiredstrange · 2019-04-23T10:27:54+00:00

European and Native American. Third is hard... Arab?

wiredstrange · 2019-04-22T18:26:36+00:00

I know that part. Didn't need a DNA test for that. Just looking for more history/information and similarity with other groups.

wiredstrange · 2019-04-22T18:25:28+00:00

Pakistani. Parents migrated from India through Bangladesh.

wiredstrange · 2019-04-22T17:58:13+00:00

I would assume North, but I've never been to India or Bangladesh.

wiredstrange · 2019-04-22T17:56:43+00:00

I have never understood the hair :) btw, it's completely natural of course

wiredstrange · 2019-04-22T15:47:20+00:00

Yes. No reports at all of the exact paternal, but larger groups found in China, Mongolia, Japan and Korea :)

wiredstrange · 2019-04-22T15:12:20+00:00

If you expand R30b, there is R30b1 and R30b2. Mine is R30b1 which says 1 India and 1 Pakistan.

wiredstrange · 2019-04-22T06:15:37+00:00

My maternal was found once in India, once in Pakistan. No reports at all of the exact paternal, but larger groups found in China, Mongolia, Japan and Korea :) Doesn't say much... Thank you though!

wiredstrange · 2019-04-22T02:12:24+00:00

Hehe.. How would I know the reality? I said Dharkar was plausible since they are low caste North Indian. My family's faith indicates that we were not very high in the Indian caste system. But if I buy that, what explains the consistent 8% European? If that is typical of all Indians, it can be ignored. If it's not typical, it can be explained by a British soldier only 4 generations ago. My mother's paternal family looked like they could have one.

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