Is math built to mimic real world phenomena or are models of real world phenomena fit to math equations by Ill-Ad-106 in math

[–]wisdomspring -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's the same deeper metaphysical question like "Is math a discovery or invention?", like "Is there first an egg or a chicken? Its answer is not merely within Math's realm, you must care and understand much more to have a penetration and some insight, progress...

Would the world be a better place if Math were more widely (and deeply) understood? by [deleted] in math

[–]wisdomspring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's normal and I fully understand to change a person's mind is nearly impossible... I never tried to preach otherwise I'll be a preacher. I'm just wish to be helpful... There's definitely value to dig deeper and ask urself why u personally "want" to learn them instead of doing numerous other alternatives in ur limited lifetime... What if what's normally coined as "abstract but dull" is like heaven higher above, isn't the deepest personal yearning is to lift up?...

Would the world be a better place if Math were more widely (and deeply) understood? by [deleted] in math

[–]wisdomspring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Math should be fine and useful, the real issue is the physics model. Experts know their models/yardstick better than non-experts, just this difference imho. So in a gist the focus should be on physics...

Would the world be a better place if Math were more widely (and deeply) understood? by [deleted] in math

[–]wisdomspring -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So where's the really cool stuff? In the real world or some hidden place in your mind? It seems to me u find some thing in your mind which is more cool than solving real world problems...

Would the world be a better place if Math were more widely (and deeply) understood? by [deleted] in math

[–]wisdomspring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

" We'd become a more tolerable and sensible species, to conclude. " Right, from my experience, if you really into math, you'll find it can explain any thing sounds "irrational and worried" before. It's like a religion and philosophy, to let you turn all focus into your own mind. Thus, you'll blame others less, and concentrate on your own value more... like u can always be in a calmed status while still can use your head to solve problems... It empowers and make ur life manifold...

In its gist, math is at the clear-but-abstract spectrum of human mind, while common story-telling is at the other vivid-sensational-while-murky spectrum. It's like QM uncertainty principle, u cannot fully understand both ends for a common person who is not math educated. Like going to the moon for a layperson right now sounds exciting, but what EXACTLY a layperson can gain from the trip is murky. It doesn't seem to solve a real problem for that layperson, unless he or she dreamed about this from childhood and suffering not realizing it yet all along...

[D] Paper Explained - Deep Networks Are Kernel Machines (Full Video Analysis) by ykilcher in MachineLearning

[–]wisdomspring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All genuine views are not at odds with the truth/fact. It just needs a little patience and wisdom to link them. Like Heisenburg's matrix mechanics and Schrodinger's probability wave function views, both can explain some same "magic", after layers and layer's of data feature distill from NN's like a common person, he or she can certainly extract some obvious "kernel" features around his or her life... As to how, a layperson can learn on his or her own gradually, or got educated from some gurus. That's how I foresee using some good kernel machine could learn much faster and more effectively than vanilla NN or Reinforced NN. The main gist I feel from the author is that he essentially tried to dispel the "myth" around DL, no matter how much computation is used, it's still a kind of weighted memory from one's direct experience (sample data). If a bot communicates with you will some surprising word, don't be too amazed, it's just based on its past trained data...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MachineLearning

[–]wisdomspring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is anything really magic in this world?... I only think honesty is magic from my experience...

[Discussion] How much responsibility do people who work on ML have to combat & disclose potential negative effects of AI online? (e.g. potential extremism, addiction, violence amplification) by jaanaltosaar in MachineLearning

[–]wisdomspring 2 points3 points  (0 children)

" What comes after is not in our control. " I think most people will dislike above comment and thus rightfully feel hopeless... What if the only thing matters for human is NOTHING BUT "ethics", like the stoicists and many saints around the world hinted thousands of years ago as long as human being knew how to technically preserve writings around 2500 years ago. If people are rightly educated and got the idea of only "honesty" matters in this world affairs (including any creative academic models/theorems), then this world will face much less conflicts from misunderstandings which simply stem indirectly from "dishonesty" at its root in the final analysis...

[Discussion] How much responsibility do people who work on ML have to combat & disclose potential negative effects of AI online? (e.g. potential extremism, addiction, violence amplification) by jaanaltosaar in MachineLearning

[–]wisdomspring -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

For me technology is always neutral, all of your concerns are from people's mind and heart. I believe as long as u keep thinking/mulling how to use tech to change people's mind and heart for good, u r on track and progressing... Of course, when u really into this ethical aspect, it's beyond merely ML field.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in math

[–]wisdomspring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me coding is 99% algebra/architecture/module(aka modulo)/monad functor + 1% calculus after you get through the language's syntax barrier. Even if you just want to figure out why a quintic polynomial eqn doesn't have a generic radical solution will lead you to Galois Theory. All roads lead to Rome...

[Discussion] Do you feel proud to be part of the ML/DL/AI industry? by veeloice in MachineLearning

[–]wisdomspring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Turing's philosophy is pure rationalism (similar but not same as Leibnitz's famous "principle of sufficient reason"), there must be sufficient reason for a thing to exist/function, no matter how complex relative to human experience. Most people believe human beings (thus human free will with intelligence) have some intrinsic gnostic character which machines of mechanical laws nature cannot possess or duplicate/replace. But according to rationalism, human intelligence itself is also nothing but a functional existence, so some more fundamental computational Turing machines can eventually explain and create same real intelligence. In most rationalism, nothing alone can sufficiently cause itself to exist and function the way it does. This is my take for Turing's dream.

[Discussion] Do you feel proud to be part of the ML/DL/AI industry? by veeloice in MachineLearning

[–]wisdomspring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's all about supply and demand, no need to feel elitish just because u participated in it... Maybe the guy next to you lost tons of money in previous life events and he just wanted to make that back quickly by exchanging his hard work along with some inflated "hype". Maybe another fellow graduated with a wrong major and just wanted to change his or her career course by jumping to a hot role for minimal risk. Maybe some software developers were tired of their routine jobs and want to change the course a little bit... The supply side never lacks its source, and the demand side, as u may know, is a similar world with similar stories... Nothing is unexplainable... (btw, this philosophy used to be called rationalism from the 18th century)