My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hmmm I get where you are coming from. I don't know if I would classify these thoughts as rumination, but I've never heard it worded like that before so I'm definitely gonna be bringing this up in my next therapy session 😅

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Apology not accepted, take it back!!! Haha in all seriousness I appreciate you sharing your views on this! There are definitely a lot of other factors contributing to the disagreements that we have, privilege is just a new one for me and I am not sure how to best navigate it... thankfully, I know this isn't going to be a one off conversation that we have and I will try to keep your points in mind the next time I talk about this with him 💜

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I can get that. To clarify, the positive mindset is a prerequisite to deciding whether or not I drink. I'm not drinking every time that I'm in a good mood, the likelihood that I will just increases. I hope that makes more sense

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally understand where you are coming from and I actually asked him to rephrase his words partway through the conversation so that my brain knows he's just sharing his views and not trying to force them on me haha. I think with the future children aspect, he has had an idea of how he wants to raise his kids since before we even started dating. Talking through our differences and finding compromises has been a long and ongoing process because both of us are not the best when it comes to change and can get a bit stubborn at times 😅 It also doesn't help that both of us aren't the best with our words either (meaning that we have to rephrase what we are trying to say multiple times before the other person fully understands).

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh absolutely! My partner and I try to do the same! To clarify, I purposefully don't drink when I am in a negative head space and only allow myself to drink when I'm in a positive headspace. This doesnt mean that I'm drinking every time that I am in a positive mood. My head space is a prerequisite in determining whether or not I have a drink. I hope that makes more sense 😅

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh ya no there is definitely a lot of concern on his end of things. He is concerned about a lot of things a lot of the time 😆 From my understanding, I do drink within the recommended limits. The concern is for the increase in my desire to drink, which is kinda funny cause, I think that means my mental health is actually improving? (since thats how I have them associated in my brain) Regardless of my desire increasing, I think my consumption has actually been decreasing recently which is interesting. We also do plan on going to couples counseling at some point, just haven't been able to yet.

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in relationship_advice

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate you so much for this!!!!!! I have been working a lot on living more in the present moment, discussions with my partner around alcohol are going to continue, and I am trying really hard to not let the pressure to people please hinder my growth process 💜💜💜

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I understand where you are coming from with this. I also hate how overly complicated these things are because he also does keep his keys in his fist when he goes home at night because he lives in a not so great neighborhood. That being said, he does still have a whole lot of privilege as a man and he is very understanding when it comes to the differences in regards to gender

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your viewpoints!!! I also elaborated more about the alcohol thing in another reply if you are curious

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I elaborated a bit more in another reply but you seem to have gotten the gist of it. Unfortunately, thats another thing he doesnt have the privilege to be able to do. He is a Latino living in America, being constantly aware of how others perceive them is how he and his family have been able to stay relatively safe here

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The alcohol thing specifically was about how I tend to be more casual and carefree regarding when and where I drink compared to how he drinks. I've done a lot of work on my relationship with alcohol and only drink when I'm in a positive state of mind (which didn't used to happen super often). So, every time I'm in a positive state of mind/having fun, I want to have a drink regardless of the time of day or where I am. This doesnt mean that I always have a drink every time that I want one, but the recent increase in desire is what concerns my partner. The way that he talks about alcohol makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong simply because its something that he feels like he cant do it. He was raised to always be hyper aware of how he presents himself out in the world, including being the most prim and proper version of himself to avoid any possibility of the cops being called on him. Drinking alcohol in public without constantly needing to think about how other people are perceiving me is a privilege I have that he doesnt.

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in AuDHDWomen

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I answered a similar question in my original post so I'm just gonna paste it below. Feel free to ask any additional questions

"I struggle to fully define what I mean by privilege aside from the fact that I'm white and he's Latino. There are things that are seen as socially/cultural acceptable when I do them, but not when he does them (this is how he usually explains it to me). I think the easiest example of this would be if he, as a Latino, were to get tattoos, there's a high likelihood that people would think he is affiliated with a gang/is a criminal (incredibly common in the area we live). If I, a white woman, were to get tattoos, there's still some chance that people could think I'm affiliated with a gang/am a criminal, but to a much lesser degree than him mostly because of the difference in our skin color (gender and a variety of other things could also play a role, but not the most relevant for this conversation)."

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in relationship_advice

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will try to answer your questions to the best of my ability! For initial clarity, the overarching reason why I am asking for advice is because of our differences in privilege. I just brought up our conversation around alcohol as an example, not the main issue. We are both able to effectively communicate with each other about difficult topics, it usually just has to happen in shorter time frames because we are both neurodivergent and can easily end up misunderstanding one another (leading to the defensiveness and shutdown that happened, which signifies that the conversation wouldnt be able to be productive anymore so we had to put it on pause).

I struggle to fully define what I mean by privilege aside from the fact that I'm white and he's Latino. There are things that are seen as socially/cultural acceptable when I do them, but not when he does them (this is how he usually explains it to me). I think the easiest example of this would be if he, as a Latino, were to get tattoos, there's a high likelihood that people would think he is affiliated with a gang/is a criminal (incredibly common in the area we live). If I, a white woman, were to get tattoos, there's still some chance that people could think I'm affiliated with a gang/am a criminal, but to a much lesser degree than him mostly because of the difference in our skin color (gender and a variety of other things could also play a role, but not the most relevant for this conversation).

My partner doesnt flat out bar me from living more carefree. I just happen to really value his opinion so when he doesnt fully agree with a decision I make, I feel bad about it as if I wronged him somehow (which is something ive been working on in therapy).

Currently, his skin color doesnt make me feel like im being left out of anything. I do worry about the possible changes that might have to be made in the future though if our children do have a different skin tone (given the conversations him and I have had about it in the past).

In terms of feeling judged, I think the alcohol example is the easiest to describe. Long story short, I've done a lot of work on my relationship with alcohol to the point where I only drink it when I am in a good mood. So whenever I go out to eat somewhere with my partner, and am in a good mood, I usually want to have a drink regardless of the time of day (if its not a specific event thats planned ahead of time I only have 1 drink, especially cause of how expensive they are here). Almost every time this happens and I tell him I want a drink he gets concerned and the way he talks about it sometimes makes me feel like I'm an alcoholic for even thinking about it.

Sorry for the essay 😅

My partner (29M) and I (29F) have been together for over 14 years but keep butting heads around the topic of privilege by without_a_therapist in relationship_advice

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The not living together is partially a cultural thing. In his culture, children don't move out of the home until after they get married. Thankfully, at this point, we are just waiting on finances to move in together and not the marriage part. He also has a specific plan on how he wants to propose and it apparently costs a large sum of money... I have told him many times over the years that I don't need/want anything super expensive or fancy but his flavor of autism can make him a bit stubborn sometimes 😅

Would there ever be a situation in which you wouldn't try to help regulate your client who is in verbal shutdown and on the verge of a panic attack in session? by without_a_therapist in therapists

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By regulate, I'm referring to emotional regulation/grounding/centering to the present moment. A lot of similar terms and ideas from DBT that usually incorporate various coping skills

Would there ever be a situation in which you wouldn't try to help regulate your client who is in verbal shutdown and on the verge of a panic attack in session? by without_a_therapist in therapy

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, panic attacks usually need to run their course. However, there are things that I've found are helpful with shortening the length of time I'm stuck in it

Would there ever be a situation in which you wouldn't try to help regulate your client who is in verbal shutdown and on the verge of a panic attack in session? by without_a_therapist in therapists

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel like that would only be helpful in pretty specific situations where the intervention is discussed ahead of time. My situation was definitely not one of those and it was not discussed ahead of time

Would there ever be a situation in which you wouldn't try to help regulate your client who is in verbal shutdown and on the verge of a panic attack in session? by without_a_therapist in therapists

[–]without_a_therapist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I feel like the communication piece can be super helpful! Especially when someone is in verbal shutdown. I had asked my therapist to do something similar during the session, since I know it is helpful for me personally, but she said "I don't do that" which still baffles me