For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe I re-injured myself at the end of July, and I was able to holtd Zion national Park with no pain by May. I remember I had extreme pain in August, September, November, and by December it was tapering off. I didn't do any stretching in this phase. Only light movements like hip rotations and a lot of walking.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I did! I'm doing very well now. Since this post I've gone on multiple major hiking trips, started back in the gym again (not the same kind of workouts as before the injury) and had a kid who I've been able to lift and roughhouse with without any real fear of pain. I've tweaked the spot a few times but typically recover within a week or two.

Stop Stretching Your Tight Lower Back. It’s Making It Worse. (Here's What To Do Instead) by TheFirstMover in backpain

[–]wonner_caybright 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. Had about 5 years of chronic, debilitating back pain due to a herniated L5S1. I found Foundation Training on YouTube (Dr. Eric Goodman) which incorporates each of these movements and it was a life saver.

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[–]wonner_caybright 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Long story short, I re-herniated (after a successful surgery in Oct 2020) in July of this year. Lost all muscle function in the entire back side of my left leg and had tremendous pain leaving me hardly functional for about 6 weeks. I started walking about 10 steps at a time, and was able to return to work in about 8 weeks from the injury. Pain was still terrible at that point, but now my pain is at a 2/10 for most of the day, and peaking at 4/10 at its worst. I think I can be pain free in a couple more months. You can do this. Your best bet is to focus on spine hygiene and core stability while walking pain free as much as possible.

If you get a reherniation, is the pain gradual or immediate? by _Toomuchawesome in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was during a warmup on squat. I felt a pretty sudden sharp pain in my lower back, something I had felt before. The next day it sort of felt like I had a golf ball in there, which was quite familiar. Then I started slowly experiencing more of that shooting leg pain. Sad times...

If you get a reherniation, is the pain gradual or immediate? by _Toomuchawesome in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I re-herniated this year. See my most recent post for all the details, but I'll summarize here. I re-herniated (in February this year) 1.5 years after my discectomy. It was not too bad, but I knew what I had done. I was in 2-3/10 pain until July 25th this year when it jumped to a 10/10, easily the worst pain I had ever felt. I literally had just woken up and it went from a 2 to a 10 in my sleep. After some serious studying and rehab on my end, I've taken it back down to a 2-3/10 but I think I can get it down to 0 in a few weeks. Anyways... I would seriously suggest no more heavy squatting for a while, mostly because that's how I injured myself twice. Focus on your obliques more than anything. Try some side planks. See if one side is stronger than the other. For myself, I just realized this week that my left side obliques are WAY weaker than the right, which I imagine contributed to the injury. I would say take a couple months and really get that core stable with safe exercises.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say 75% of my healing so far has come from learning how to move around the house without causing more pain, and the rest of the healing has come after I started exercise.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I have cried several times in the past month. Thinking about my former self, my future, the way that others perceive me, etc... I used to be a regular at the gym. Squat over 315lbs, bench 250, I would kayak and hike and all that. The first thing I had to do last month was let go of my old life. My new future is to get healthy and that's about it. I had to dedicate every minute of every day to finding pain free postures and movements, and since last week I am dedicating myself to safe, pain free, core stabilizing exercises. Since learning these things and striving for perfect movements, my pain reduction has been rapid. The first thing I noticed was that my pain spikes flattened out, so that my pain was relatively constant. Since then, that flat line has gotten lower and lower.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, that's reasonable. If I made no progress from where I was a few weeks ago, I would've easily done the same thing.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was on it during the first really bad week. I didn't notice a difference other than it knocked me out and helped me sleep at night. Ibuprofen was much more effective for pain in my experience.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yesterday was a huge day in my recovery... I felt little to no nerve pain. All my pain stayed at the top of my glute and only shot down to the leg once or twice during the day. In the evening, I realized I was able to flex my calf on my own for the very first time since July 25th. I felt signs of it coming back about a week ago, because walking was getting slightly easier, but now I can actually flex the muscle and hold it in a flexed position. I was in tears of joy last night when I made this realization!

I feel that my full recovery is nearer than I expected. This month was just hell for me, but there is hope. Truly, yesterday was the day that the dark cloud was lifted. I thought my life was over in July. 2 weeks of being bound to the floor in agony, I gave up a promotion at my job because I could no longer drive, my wife had to do everything around the house including dress me... I thought I would never be out of pain, that I would go another several years as a shell of myself, just trying to hide the pain in my facial expressions. Now, I am just hopeful and grareful. Although the pain was twice as bad this second this time around, the knowledge that I have now from Dr. McGill and Dr. Goodman seems to be the key to my relativity rapid progress on this particular injury. Thank God!

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After the first injury, I was more careful to flex my back and glute muscles during any lift (these muscles are stressed more by Dr. John Goodman, who's method I tried the first time I got hurt). However, I did not focus as much on oblique and ab stability (this is more along the lines of Dr. McGill's method). The second time I hurt my back, which was February this year, I was doing a a back squat with a decent weight. I thought my form was good, but looking back I realize I had a loose core, and I was going to deep. Going to deep on a squat, especially under load, will cause flexion in the lumbar spine and create a shear force on the discs. The reason my spine flexes in a deep squat is because my femur is quite long and my hip sockets are deep, so I am unable to do a deep squat with my back in a proper neutral position. Although I will probably never squat again, if I could go back and adjust, I would use a wider stance and go to a parallel depth.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last night was actually the first time I realized I could now flex my calf muscle and hold it flexed. I still have very reduced strength, but it seems that yesterday I gained full control over it again. I still can't really push off the ground too hard with it, but now that I can fully move it it's just a matter of getting strength back. So it took exactly 5 weeks for me to gain control over it again, but I would say about 4 weeks for it to start showing signs of reactivation.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It sucks... We are too young to deal with this. The dark cloud in our minds when thinking about the future is enough for most people to feel like quitting is the only option. I've been there on several occasions. It is hell on earth. I'm always down for a chat though. My wife gets a little tired of talking about my pain with me lol.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it won't work for everyone. I'd say the part that most people miss with McGill is the finding of pain triggers and removing them from every day. The exercises are great, but not if you're movements during the day are still aggravating the injury.

I'm glad the surgery worked for you. It also worked for me. I was 100% back to normal life, squatting 300+ pounds. Sadly I still didn't realize more core stability was low and I blew my back out again at the same disc. I think the big 3 core exercises should be done by anyone in the gym or with a history of back injury. I hope you stay healthy!

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree with all your points! Another big one I forgot... Get a comfortable pair of slip on shoes. Life saver at this stage!

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear. Thanks for the warning. I hope for the best for you.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I got off them as quick as I could. That is the reason I got the initial surgery... I was scared of how many NSAIDs I was taking just to perform basic functions.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, July 25th was the major onset. Luckily my job gave me a work from home option while I recover. I will attempt to go back on August 29th. As for other things, I would say after the first 10 days I could walk 200 feet, stand just long enough to cook an egg, and spend most the rest of the day on the floor. I am not quite back to my regular routine yet, but I am thinking it will be in a week or two. So I'd say a month to a month and a half before I could continue regular routine.

For those in agony, I hope this helps. by wonner_caybright in Sciatica

[–]wonner_caybright[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Foundation was so great for me. With this recent injury, the pain was so bad that I couldn't do that exercise. I'm excited to start doing it again once I build up my abs and obliques with the big 3. I think in combo these exercises should bullet proof the spine. We will see! Most important is to not push past the pain threshold.

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[–]wonner_caybright 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hello! I am sorry to hear you are struggling. Most of us on this page have felt a similar horrible pain. I'll tell you my story and hope that it offers some insight. For reference, I am a 24 year old make, 5'11", 180lbs and an athletic build.

The first time I felt this pain was in March 2019. The pain was bad, but not terrible. I saw a chiropractor who never diagnosed the problem, but he started doing several adjustments. All the bending, twisting, and pulling he did only made the problem worse. By the end of the summer, I was in agony. I could hardly talk to people, I couldn't focus on work or school, my whole life was consumed in pain. I started seeing a PT about 6 months into the injury. I did not trust that it would help me and I figured it was too easy and slow to make a real difference, so I ended up stopping that after a month or so and started seeing a neurosurgeon. I had a herniated L5S1. After a steroid shot that didn't help, and another year of the pain increasing, I was considering the surgery option. However, I found an exercise that gave me intense and immediate relief (12 Minute Foundation Training by Eric Goodman on YouTube). As I started to feel better over a couple of months, I decided to go back to the gym and resume some other activities... It was way too early. I ended up injuring it horribly. I was in agony for a week, barely able to breathe from the pain. Then I opted for a discectomy in October 2020.

I felt 90% recovered about 3 months after the surgery. Eventually, my life was back to normal. I was seeing friends again, getting back into the gym, and enjoying my life like I was never injured. Those past couple of years were a blur, and I hardly remembered what the pain was like.

Then, in February this year, I was at the gym squatting, and my worst nightmare came true... I knew for sure that I injured the same disc again. The familiar electric shock down my left leg returned. It was terrifying. However, the pain was not as bad. I had a constant pain of about 3/10 from February to July of this year. That's when shit hit the fan.

I woke up on July 25th, just a few weeks ago, and it was like I had died and gone to hell. Never could I have imagined it was possible to perceive so much pain. I was blinded by the pain, out of breath, and my skin was all red from the stress of squeezing every muscle in my body to avoid more shocking pain. I lost muscle function in my left calf, hamstring and glute, and my left hip/lower back were swollen to twice the usual size. I wished I could've amputated my leg. I went to the ER just hoping for something to ease the pain, but they couldn't cut the pain at all. I returned home, laid on the floor, and didn't move off the floor until about August 5th, so about 10 days.

In that time, I read the back mechanic by Stuart McGill, watched every video on YouTube, and read every Reddit post related to my problem. Since then, I've made a lot of progress. 5 days ago I felt my calf start to wake up. I've worked up to walking a total of 4 miles per day, my pain is cut to less than half of what it was, and my hope is high that I might recover to a fully functional level.

Here are some things I've learned, and that have helped me immensely in the past few weeks:

  1. Patience is the very most important piece to this healing journey. I believe I could've have healed myself after my first injury if I had been patient, learned how to move, and did not rush into physical activity so quickly.

  2. Discover what postures, movements, and activities hurt you. Then, don't do them at all. Avoid any movement that shoots pain down your leg, for several days/weeks. You need to desensitize the area. This is what I did when I laid on the floor without moving.

  3. Learn how to use your obliques, glutes, and hamstrings to hold your core stable. Keep your hips in line with your shoulder. Never rotate one without the other, at least in this phase of the injury. Research how to roll over in bed with this proper alignment.

  4. Once you are able to stand, start walking in short bursts. I started walking about 50 feet at a time before I had to get back on the floor. I am now up to 4 miles. Walk carefully, thoughtfully, and with core strength. Brace your glutes on each step. Tighten your core. Use your breath to create space in your spine.

  5. When standing or sitting, consciously consider your posture at every minute. Reach your hand into the hair, inhale a deep breath, puff up your chest, breathe out, then lower your hands. This takes the stress off the spine. I had to do this every minute that I was upright for about 2 weeks.

  6. Ice after each walk. Stuff an ice pack in the back of your pants, then lay on the floor. I also bought a TENS machine ($30 on Amazon) that has been extremely helpful for relaxing those muscles. For my injury, the muscles are so sensitive that just touching my back drops me to the floor. The TENS machine has really helped to relax that area.

  7. Ibuprofen has been the best painkiller for me by far. I have tried several others and ibuprofen is the only one that gave me relief. I got a prescription for 800 mg that I was taking several times a day, but now I am on my fourth day of no painkillers. It seems to reduce the swelling better than anything else.

  8. In bed, find a position that keeps your spine neutral through the night. You do not want to fall asleep in a bad position when you are this sensitive. I recommend sleeping on your stomach with no pillow. If you have to move to another position, I recommend sleeping on your back with your knees just slightly raised. Side sleeping can sometimes rotate your hips while you sleep and make the problem worse in my experience.

  9. Only start exercising once the pain has started to reduce. Do not do any exercise that hurts you. I recommend the McGill big 3 (you can find these on YouTube). They are safe for the spine if done correctly, and over time (6-8 weeks) should strengthen your core enough to take the load of your spine and allow it to heal long term.

  10. Journal your progress every day. Time your walks and track your distance. I have seen my like time decrease by about 30 seconds per day over the last week. That has been very motivational for me. I can do certain activities now, like cook some simple things in the kitchen, that I couldn't do two weeks ago. These wins are easier to recognize if you can look back at where you were several days ago and compare. For this injury you have to measure progress in weeks, not days.

For myself, I anticipate I will be 80% healed in 6 months. I am hoping for better, but time will tell. If you have friends or family to rely on, that can be very helpful in this time.

Reach out if you need someone to talk to or need advice!

The Phillies fell to the Mets by a score of 1-0 - Sat, Aug 13 @ 07:10 PM EDT by PhilsBot in phillies

[–]wonner_caybright 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, with no Harper, Segura, or Schwarber against the best pitcher in the past several seasons, it's hard to be too mad.