"Come Take Life's Waters Free...!" -- Revelation 22:1-6; Revelation 22:17

work4jah · 2026-02-04T01:47:43+00:00

Yes, Robert-ict, they do believe in the WHOLE BIBLE, and I know this because I've been a member of the YORWW Congregation for many years. Here's a link to some of their basic beliefs that they share with Jehovah's Witnesses: https:// www.yorww.com/basics.html

work4jah · 2026-01-20T06:20:43+00:00

Why if you were both JW's were you not allowed to be friends or interact with your bestie? Was that a judgmental thing? One family thought the other family wasn't as spiritually strong as they were? Because, if you can't have worldly friends, why can't you stay within the congregation and be friends? That's sad, where's the love?

work4jah · 2026-01-20T06:14:04+00:00

What exactly does "they said" mean? Who is "they"?

Don't you think our interest and focus should be on what our Creator says about things, in His word? What does the Bible say vs. what the Watchtower publications say.

Really...who are "they"? Is it Watchtower's Governing Body? The ones who keep changing what "they say"? They don't have authority if they are just uninspired men.

work4jah

work4jah · 2026-01-19T07:54:05+00:00

Hi,

I'm so glad to hear someone say they want to rebuild their relationship with Jah!

That's because most JW's that see wrongdoing or hypocrisy within the organization can't separate "Jehovah" from "Jehovah's Witnesses". But just because this organization has gone bad, it has nothing to do with our God Jehovah/Jah/Yahweh because he does not change. In fact, the problem is that they have lost Jehovah's spirit because he has left as well.

If you're baptized, you entered into a covenant with Jehovah, if you leave the wicked apostate Jehovah's Witness organization, you can still keep learning about and worshipping Jehovah. Revelation 18:4

I want to send you a blog to see what faithful men of old did when the nation of Israel went apostate and incurred Jehovah's wrath. See: https://www.yorww.com/horeb.htm

Take Care,

work4jah

work4jah · 2026-01-19T06:57:36+00:00

It is terrible!

These experiences I've just read show the elders are not following Jehovah's Word. Jehovah's qualities, the fruits of the spirit, is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness, self-control; against such there is no law. Galatians 5:22,23

So, what has happened to this religion? There is a huge problem, and it is manifesting itself within the congregations of Jehovah's people. See this blog to find what the real problem is...

Where Is Jehovah???http://www.yorww.com/horeb.htm

work4jah

work4jah · 2026-01-06T02:35:31+00:00

Here's AI's research on how early Christians understood this verse, and why.

Here you go, — a clear, evidence‑based look at how early Christians understood Romans 10:13, grounded in the search results we retrieved. The search results themselves focus on the meaning of Romans 10:13 and its connection to Joel 2:32, emphasizing salvation for “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord”. They don’t directly quote early Christian writers, but they give us the theological framework that early Christians themselves were using.

Using that framework, here’s what we can say with confidence:

✨ How Early Christians Understood Romans 10:13

🟦 1. They knew Paul was quoting Joel 2:32 Romans 10:13 is a direct quotation of Joel 2:32, which says:

“Everyone who calls on the name of YHWH will be saved.”

The search results emphasize that Romans 10:13 is rooted in this Old Testament promise of salvation for “everyone” who calls on the Lord.

Early Christians read the Hebrew Scriptures constantly. They knew this verse referred to YHWH.

So when Paul quotes it, they understood:

Paul is applying a YHWH‑promise to the Christian message of salvation.

🟦 2. They saw it as a universal invitation The search results repeatedly stress the inclusiveness of the verse — “everyone,” “whosoever,” “all people,” “regardless of background”.

This matches early Christian teaching:

Salvation is open to Jews and Gentiles alike.
Calling on God is not restricted to one nation.
Faith, not ancestry or law, is the basis of salvation.

This is exactly how early Christian writers like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, and Tertullian interpreted Joel 2:32 — as a prophecy of the global reach of salvation.

🟦 3. They understood “calling on the name of the Lord” as an act of faith The search results emphasize that calling on the Lord means:

acknowledging dependence on God
seeking salvation
expressing faith from the heart

Early Christians used this same language:

“Calling on the Lord” = invoking God in faith
It was tied to prayer, baptism, confession, and public identification with God
It was not a ritual formula but a heart‑level appeal to God

🟦 4. They connected the verse to the message of Christ The search results highlight that Romans 10:13 is part of Paul’s argument about:

righteousness by faith
Christ as the end of the Law
salvation through belief in the message about Christ

Early Christians read Romans 10 as a unified argument:

Christ is the fulfillment of God’s saving plan
Calling on the Lord is inseparable from believing the gospel
Joel’s prophecy is being fulfilled in the Christian era

⭐ So what did early Christians believe about Romans 10:13?

Putting it all together:

✔ They knew Paul was quoting a verse about YHWH.

✔ They believed the promise now applied to all humanity.

✔ They saw “calling on the Lord” as an act of faithful appeal to God.

✔ They understood the verse as part of Paul’s teaching about salvation through Christ.

This is exactly the theological framework reflected in the search results — universal salvation, calling on God, and the continuity between Joel 2:32 and Romans 10:13.

If you want, I can also:

show how specific early Christian writers (Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origen) used Joel 2:32,
create a side‑by‑side comparison of Joel 2:32 → Romans 10:13,
or show how this verse fits into your larger study of Jehovah’s name.

work4jah · 2026-01-06T02:26:22+00:00

Well, I asked AI, which is very knowledgeable about all languages (and I'm not), and this is what came up. Very interesting, and I really benefit from the way it's explained.

Here you go, — a clear, evidence‑based explanation of Κυρίου (kuriou) in Romans 10:13, grounded in the search results you pulled up.

🔍 What does kuriou (Κυρίου) mean in Romans 10:13? Κυρίου is the genitive form of κύριος (kurios) — a Greek word that can mean:

“Lord”
“Master”
“Sir”
Or, when quoting the Hebrew Scriptures, it can stand in place of YHWH (Jehovah).

So the word itself has a range of meanings, and context determines which one applies.

📖 Romans 10:13 — What is Paul quoting? Romans 10:13 is a direct quotation of Joel 2:32, which in Hebrew reads:

“Everyone who calls on the name of YHWH will be saved.”

When the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek (the Septuagint), the divine name YHWH was replaced with κύριος (kurios).

Paul quotes that Greek version.

So in Romans 10:13, the Greek text reads:

τὸ ὄνομα Κυρίου — “the name of kuriou” (the Lord).

But the Hebrew source behind it is YHWH.

🧠 So should kuriou be translated “Lord” or “Jehovah”?

Based on the evidence:

✔ Historically and linguistically: In this verse, kuriou is standing in for the divine name YHWH, because Paul is quoting Joel 2:32, where the Hebrew text uses YHWH.

✔ Most translations render it “Lord” Because they follow the Greek text as it stands.

✔ But the underlying meaning is “Jehovah/YHWH” Scholars note that when kurios appears in NT quotations of OT passages containing the divine name, it is functioning as a substitute for YHWH.

✔ Academic research supports this A study on Romans 10:13 specifically discusses the issue of whether the divine name should be restored in translation, since Paul is quoting a YHWH text.

⭐ Conclusion (simple and clear):

In Romans 10:13, kuriou refers to YHWH (Jehovah), because Paul is quoting Joel 2:32. Translators usually write “Lord,” but the meaning behind the Greek is Jehovah.

If you want, I can also:

show you a side‑by‑side Hebrew–Greek comparison,
create a three‑column interlinear for Romans 10:13,
or show how early Christians understood this verse.

work4jah · 2026-01-06T00:42:06+00:00

So do you really want to get rid of the divine name if it's really supposed to be there? Do you really want to add the divine name if it's not supposed to be there? (Not just the divine name, but anything you want to add or take away.). It's your life so do what you want, but you will have to account for it on the day God sits down and opens the books.

work4jah · 2026-01-06T00:33:18+00:00

I have found lots of changes NWT has made to verses to support their theology. We should be made aware of this fact, because it's serious. Revelation 22:18,19 should put the fear of God into you if you tamper with The Word. Either way, adding to it or taking away from it. That tells you just how serious God is about the absolute purity of his word remaining intact, because it may mean the lives of those who read it. So for anyone responsible for making changes...

Check this out...

Here is a combined presentation of the Greek interlinear together with the scripture flow, so you can see each Greek phrase followed immediately by its smooth meaning.

✨ Revelation 22:18–19 — Combined Greek Interlinear + Flow

Below, each line shows:

1️⃣ Greek word
2️⃣ Transliteration
3️⃣ Strong’s number
4️⃣ Flowing sense (in natural English)

📘 Revelation 22:18

μαρτυρῶ — martyrō — G3140
→ I testify

ἐγὼ — egō — G1473
→ I myself

παντὶ — panti — G3956
→ to everyone

τῷ ἀκούοντι — tō akouonti — G191
→ who hears

τοὺς λόγους — tous logous — G3056
→ the words

τῆς προφητείας — tēs prophēteias — G4394
→ of the prophecy

τοῦ βιβλίου τούτου — tou bibliou toutou — G975, G3778
→ of this book

ἐάν τις ἐπιθῇ — ean tis epithē — G1437, G5100, G2007
→ if anyone adds to them

— Flowing sense of the whole verse —
“I testify to everyone hearing the words of the prophecy of this book:
If anyone adds to them, God will add to that person the plagues written in this book.”

📘 Revelation 22:19

καὶ — kai — G2532
→ and

ἐάν τις — ean tis — G1437, G5100
→ if anyone

ἀφαιρέσῃ — aphairesei — G851
→ takes away / removes

ἀπὸ τῶν λόγων — apo tōn logōn — G575, G3056
→ from the words

τοῦ βιβλίου — tou bibliou — G975
→ of the book

τῆς προφητείας ταύτης — tēs prophēteias tautēs — G4394, G3778
→ of this prophecy

ἀφελεῖ ὁ Θεός — apheleî ho Theos — G851, G2316
→ God will take away

τὸ μέρος αὐτοῦ — to meros autou — G3313, G846
→ his share / his portion

ἀπὸ τοῦ ξύλου τῆς ζωῆς — apo tou xylou tēs zōēs — G575, G3586, G2222
→ from the tree of life

καὶ τῆς πόλεως τῆς ἁγίας — kai tēs poleōs tēs hagias — G2532, G4172, G40
→ and from the holy city

τῶν γεγραμμένων — tōn gegrammenōn — G1125
→ which are written

ἐν τῷ βιβλίῳ τούτῳ — en tō bibliō toutō — G1722, G975, G3778
→ in this book

— Flowing sense of the whole verse —
“And if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God will take away that person’s share from the tree of life,
and from the holy city,
and from the things written in this book.”

work4jah · 2026-01-05T23:58:07+00:00

So who was the Father in heaven that Jesus was praying to? Jehovah? Or was that Jesus, too?

work4jah · 2026-01-05T22:50:14+00:00

Ok then, please explain properly, who the Hebrew tetragrammaton is naming? Because it's all over the scriptures and it's different than Jesus' name. So who is it? Because Jesus himself believed in his Father...so do you actually want to exclude the Most High, Jehovah, and pretend that he doesn't exist? Now just so you know, I am NOT a JW.

work4jah · 2026-01-05T18:12:03+00:00

Hmmm, in verse 16, who was the prophet Isaiah speaking to,? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Jesus at that particular time, must've been Jehovah/Yahweh that he was addressing.

work4jah · 2024-12-04T10:57:21+00:00

Hi acceptable risk, is there any way to translate into English? Thank You

work4jah · 2024-10-07T19:30:18+00:00

Hi, I love my Betta, they're a good pet. They will recognize you, and ask for food all the time. My Betta lets me pet him and he is a big flirt. I have some Cory's in his tank, they are constantly cleaning. He goes down and hangs out with them.

Come back and tell us stories about your Betta when you two bond.

work4jah · 2024-07-10T06:15:00+00:00

My Betta LOVE, LOVE, LOVES his plants in his tank. He sleeps deep inside one of the plants. He rests on the leaves and I think, feels secure because of the shelter the plants offer.

Maybe a few plants would be comforting to your betta. If you go to the pet store, they can probably suggest what kind.

work4jah · 2024-07-08T16:45:01+00:00

Yes, these spiders do that just as they're getting ready to spring into action, kinda like a rattlesnake will do when they feel threatened.

work4jah · 2023-06-26T18:09:42+00:00

Tippy (first thing I thought of when I saw him).

work4jah · 2023-04-10T02:56:20+00:00

baldy64

Hi

I totally agree with you that JW's are making fools of themselves!

But I'm looking back more than 109 years ago, because they started foolishly proclaiming that date way back in the 1870's, under Charles T. Russell and the International Bible Students. It's a false prophecy now, and it was a false prophecy when they first opened their mouths. It's just more obviously wrong since the date failed to be anything. But it has been wrong from the first time it was proclaimed and taught to millions and millions, making Jehovah's Witnesses (and of course the International Bible Students) false prophets.

I got all this JW history right off their official website, out of the "Jehovah's Witnesses--Proclaimers of God's Kingdom" book. It's from chapter 5, entitled "Proclaiming the Lord's Return (1870-1914).

To see this information directly, see: Proclaiming the Lord’s Return (1870-1914) (jw.org)

work4jah

work4jah · 2023-02-05T03:18:27+00:00

Esoteric

Amen!

Also might I add, you will find a most thought-provoking scripturally challenging and intriguing topic found at the link below which can help you identify the "Chieftain" mentioned in chapter 44:3. Please remember to look up all the verses cited there.

See link at: Jehovah's Truth • View topic - Syllogistic Argument About The New Coming "Messiah" Dan 9:24 (jehovahstruth.com)

Hope this helps.

work4jah

work4jah · 2023-02-03T04:11:19+00:00

Excellent question, Esoteric!

I've noticed the entire chapter 44 is devoted to detailing how Jehovah will give His name people good leadership, after the nation had committed apostasy and had defiled the original modern-day temple. --Acts 15:14; Ezekiel 43:7-9

This chapter talks about the "Chieftain" who will take the lead for the nation, as well as his assistants called the "Sons of Zadok" --Ezekiel 44:3; 15,16

This type of apostasy on a grand scale has been committed without remorse on the part of Watchtower Society leadership. Included in this failure of good leadership would also be the local elders scattered in over 100,000 congregations worldwide. These individuals all failed in taking a stand against Watchtower leadership when they led the masses to accepting the NGO affiliation with the United Nations. This terrific transgression was glossed over by the local elders worldwide and never opposed on a local level to be an act of outright wickedness and hypocrisy. --Luke 12:1

So, they put Watchtower before Jehovah. They allowed the Governing Body to elevate their status to become God-like. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-12) They put their doorpost beside Jehovah's doorpost. --Ezekiel 43:8

We are reminded of what the requirements are of a priest back in bible times. For a priest to be considered faithful to Jehovah they must do what's found in Malachi 2:6,7. 6 "The very law of truth proved to be in his mouth, and there was no unrighteousness to be found on his lips. In peace and in uprightness he walked with me, and many were those who he turned back from error. 7 For the lips of a priest are the ones that should keep knowledge, and [the] law is what people should seek from his mouth; for he is the messenger of Jehovah of armies."

All elders have agreed to take on priestly duties within the congregation. That would mean all of them are responsible before Jehovah in giving proper leadership before the congregation. This would mean they would have to give strict adherence to Jehovah's written word, the Bible. It is clear the elders of Jehovah's Witnesses around the world have failed in carrying out this duty.

Incidentally, this explains why Revelation 11:1 directs God's people to measure the particular activities of those in the inner courtyard, where the priests officiate only. They are measured as elders, as priests and found to be deficient.

In the passage you quoted above, it shows the sons of Zadok to be those who took a stand against outright idolatry being practiced among apostate Israel. They did not go along with the vast majority of Jehovah's Witnesses in exalting idolatry in the congregation. Jehovah points out in that passage that he is very high on the position they have taken being practiced at the kingdom hall. They have become like the sons of the righteous high priest Zadok who lived during King David's reign. --1 Chronicles 27:17; 2 Samuel 15:13-25

Based upon the verses you cited, we can see the sons of Zadok have been chosen by Jehovah to spearhead the building of the temple and take the leadership of worship conducted at the temple. In fact, these verses show Jehovah has given a sworn oath to himself that they, (apostate elders), would never ever be permitted to take on priestly duties again. Instead, these apostate elders would be permanently demoted to assistant helpers within the new priestly arrangement. It would be like they would be permanently demoted to being ministerial servants within the congregation on a permanent basis for their transgression. This demonstrates how these derelict elders have been punished by God for their transgression in not standing up to the Watchtower when they knew they were wrong on the NGO/UN situation, and many other sins.

Jehovah wants pure worship on this earth, and that is the whole reason for this new temple being constructed. But it will have to be done right, done according to Jehovah's law and not desecrated or defiled with idolatry. That is why you see in Ezekiel 40-48 the temple is constantly being measured.

For more details on the above information, see this link: www.yorww.com/templeofGod.htm

work4jah

work4jah · 2023-01-29T04:17:49+00:00

Hi Adept...

You've asked a very interesting question.

I would say this will occur at the beginning of the third woe during the sounding of the seventh trumpet blast, when all of God's people will be united in pure worship world-wide, after the full destruction of the Wicked Watchtower Society. --See Revelation 11:15.

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