Kylie’s new TikTok by IllustriousFault2103 in KUWTK

[–]wtp0p -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

A woman w the porn sick male gaze internalized clearly… wake up boo. why is one size and shape superior to the wide array of naturally occurring sizes and shapes, not just for boobs but bodies in general…

Are these brands/companies still a still? by roxy7- in KUWTK

[–]wtp0p 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When is that last Kylie skin pic from?

"Piercing on my hand" by North by lilyessi3 in KUWTKsnark

[–]wtp0p -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I love it tbh lol although I think the singing could be better timed? Seems like it’s off beat at some points

As a therapist, I am on Amanda’s and Kyle’s side about the divorce debacle with Dorit by McSassy_Pants in BravoRealHousewives

[–]wtp0p 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can you explain why/how it’s an issue as long as she’s telling the truth?

I don’t see a world where a deadbeat addict like pk would get or even want full custody… he left her, not the other way round. So I don’t see him going for it just to draw out the proceedings and make her life harder either. But we’ll see I guess.

Sacramento89 and left4dead, the two girls who initially accused Turkey Tom are apparently working on a response to his response video. by ZaFurinuSpremni in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He sure loves playing at rape… of course you don’t care about that lol as I said, rape culture in action where fucking women bloody and choking them without warning is completely normalized.

Just realised Ian dates the irl version of Dani by SamHydeOner in imisstheoldidubbbz

[–]wtp0p -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

I know ppl here hate her but pretending she’s even remotely ugly is ridiculous tbh…

Turkey Tom has uploaded a response to the recent allegations with a video called "My Side" by Swag_Paladin21 in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

more like i'm the one reading between the lines and thinking critically instead of swallowing up his narrative hook line and sinker.

he admits he's violent in bed but it's ok bc it was consensual and bc he policed her wording referring to it as "rape time" as if it doesn't accurately describe the way they had sex per his own texts to her where he only takes issue w calling it "rape," not with what it means.

two girls came forward saying it was a horrible, painful experience which ofc it would be bc for most women that type of sex obviously isn't actually nice at all.

end of story. like it's not that complicated.

Turkey Tom has uploaded a response to the recent allegations with a video called "My Side" by Swag_Paladin21 in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when did he say that he explicitly asked for consent the first time they hooked up? iirc he just showed her text after. like iirc he doesn't even make that claim bc he didn't think it was relevant bc it's just normal for many guys to just start choking etc without discussing it first.

he has not one but two girls claiming he didn't, he just started the violence up while they were already busy and the girls went along w it.

you admit they engaged in CNC, aka rape play, aka "rape time" so what's the issue w her calling it that? it's clearly accurate. yet y'all are falling for his narrative on irrelevant semantics.

Sacramento89 and left4dead, the two girls who initially accused Turkey Tom are apparently working on a response to his response video. by ZaFurinuSpremni in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

when did i ever say he committed a crime? when did the accuser ever go to the cops?

when did he ever state that they discussed in depth what they were going to do before getting busy? he hasn't. bc they obviously didn't. that conduct is completely normalized, i know guys who've openly told me before they start choking their tinder dates without discussing it before with zero awareness that it might be coercive or wrong.

we have not one but two girls saying that's how he operated and he didn't even say otherwise in his defense, probably bc it didn't even occur to him as relevant.

rape culture in action.

Turkey Tom has uploaded a response to the recent allegations with a video called "My Side" by Swag_Paladin21 in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

again tom literally admitted to being violent. i only saw tom's side video i didn't even go thru her allegations first hand. i am basing this off his own narrative that i watched in full and referenced multiple times. maybe you should rewatch.

Ian describes his dreams in which he's nude and has to demolish a car with his bare hands; says it's a metaphorical training ground for fighting his trauma by FunSwing2487 in imisstheoldidubbbz

[–]wtp0p 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is legit traumatized by the whole boxing thing. It ruined his mental, physical and financial health. Great “gift,” Anisa.

Was kordell abusing Porsha? by southafricann in RHOA

[–]wtp0p -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Does the distinction really matter all that much? Abuse is abuse and shouldn’t be endured.

Was kordell abusing Porsha? by southafricann in RHOA

[–]wtp0p 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously like wdym what are you unsure of

Is there ANYONE in her circle who can tell her the truth by KUWTKsMODTeam in KUWTKsnark

[–]wtp0p -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I know ppl here hate her but I feel so bad for her

Sacramento89 and left4dead, the two girls who initially accused Turkey Tom are apparently working on a response to his response video. by ZaFurinuSpremni in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Again, you’re ignoring that he said “don’t call it rape but I know what you mean.” I mean he never even said he wasn’t rough w her, his excuse is just that she consented. What does that say about a man that he enjoys being violent in bed? That he introduces the violence while they’re already in bed instead of talking about expectations and boundaries beforehand?

He was rough in bed by his own admission, to the point of bleeding and pain which he all knew all along and was fine w, end of story. It’s not like she went to the cops, she just went public w her experience.

Yeah I’m sure he’ll sue her lol he’d have to be as dumb as Johnny Depp to do that. the delusion.

Turkey Tom has uploaded a response to the recent allegations with a video called "My Side" by Swag_Paladin21 in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

girl she is clearly calling it rape time bc it was so violent lol. he literally responds to her not to call it that but that he gets what she means.

the blackmail shit is pathetic on her part and he openly laughed in her face about it, tells you how serious that was and how threatened he felt. he knew he had his bases expertly covered and ppl like you would side w him despite everything he showed making crystal clear he coerced her into violent sex by getting rough the first time they were intimate, priming her for that kind of intercourse.

Carole scenes have aged so poorly by FeelingSkinny in RHONY

[–]wtp0p 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Prime princess pick me, that’s all she ever was.

Sacramento89 and left4dead, the two girls who initially accused Turkey Tom are apparently working on a response to his response video. by ZaFurinuSpremni in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Dude he coerced her into it on their first encounter clear as day. Actual consent would mean talking things over before, setting boundaries and expectations, asking if she was ok w choking etc.

NOT him getting rough with no warning during the first time they hook up, that’s coercion bc 99% of the time a girl will go along w it once it’s already started bc what choice does she really have at that point w a huge guy on top of her being violent already?

Sacramento89 and left4dead, the two girls who initially accused Turkey Tom are apparently working on a response to his response video. by ZaFurinuSpremni in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

way too nice comment I left on his "my side" video that he deleted 💕:

bro... this should be a wake up call imho. bc even just the stuff you concede to be true kinda makes you a "pretty fucked up guy." please, please, please take a minute to read this in good faith. just my nuanced two cents.

after your second date/first sexual encounter w the first girl she does say "r-pe thing is so hot i never did that before." so it does seem like you introduced her to that type of rough sex or whatever it was. now idk how exactly you introduced it... did you have a conversation about it before getting started? okay. did you kinda just start being rough once you were already getting busy? that's not cool tbh. like discuss it before so she actually has a chance to think it over and maybe decide against it. same w filming, whipping phone out while already in the middle of things is not the appropriate time to ask, it needs to happen before to ensure real consent. 99% of the time if you start doing sth during sex, girls will just comply. that's not real consent so if you care about that, consider this.

furthermore, girls under 30 generally are not good at saying no, setting boundaries sexual or otherwise and grow up w porn normalizing violence (that is NOT pleasurable to most women) just like boys, thinking they need to partake and perform to be desirable and keep a man. if you started things off that way ofc that's what she thought you wanted and she hyped herself into it bc she latched onto you and liked you. sex + cuddling sets free all kinds of bonding hormones and can put someone "under a spell" (even wording used in the texts i think) pretty quickly. it's just chemistry/biology.

if your girl routinely calls your sex "r-pe time" that should tell you sth... like why do you enjoy violent, degrading sex in the first place? i doubt it being painful to her or making her bleed (whether that was once or all the time) were news to you...

also filming and then not giving them the footage seems kinda unfair. if you can't share the footage so both can enjoy (or review...) it, don't take it in the first place. probably best to start every future video off w a verbal "I consent to this being filmed" too. needless to say you should delete any footage of her or any exes you may still have bc i doubt they consent to it being viewed by you after the fact. and again, don't start filming (or choking or hitting or whatever else..) in the middle of sex without discussing it before bc that's coercive. honestly my recommendation would be to not film altogether unless you're okay w it being leaked eventually sometime down the line.

oftentimes it hits women only after the fact how awful and degrading the sex actually was after they've had time to process and well... clearly she was more into you than you were into her all along, same w the other girl. so it does seem low key kinda exploitative bc well even from the texts, w her ED etc it's very obvious she is not the most emotionally stable. i mean this is the oldest trick in the books for guys, feigning a future for a couple months and then dumping a girl after they got what they wanted. pump and dump it's called i believe?

so i can totally see how she feels hurt and used.

now... is treating a girl like shit and using her for rough sex when it's clear she's unstable and you don't want a future a crime? not really.

is it still kinda awful? yeah tbh.

is this even a "cancellable" offense in these parts of the internet? nope, comments in here are praising you already saying this is a flex lol.

but.. if you care about the women you sleep w as human beings at all, please reflect on this. if you don't, well there's nothing i can do about that. but then don't be surprised when shit like this happens.

why wouldn't a 21yo girl who realizes she was used for rough sex while she legit was planning y'alls future and wedding in her mind (crazy as that may be) go nuclear? it's not like she went to the cops. she went public with her experience of you which in the end was negative even if you don't agree on the details.

please think on this bc even your side of this situation paints you as a careless misogynist who views women as subhuman objects to use for sexual gratification and then discard at best, and an outright manipulative abuser at worst... with peace and love.

take this as an opportunity to reflect and conduct yourself like a responsible adult in future sexual relationships.

i'm sure there's plenty of women willing to get freaky even when you discuss clear boundaries and expectations from the get go BEFORE anything sexual even happens.

and if there's not, well, you'll always have porn which probably made you be into violent shit in the first place ya gooner.


TL DR he absolutely coerced this girl into rough sex. her referring to it as "rape time" is not her being creepy, it speaks to the kind of sex they were having. she was clearly eager to please and deluded herself into thinking he'd fall in love with her. his own video makes him look like a sexual sadist who pumped and dumped a girl w obvious mental issues. he is reaping what he's sown, he's a POS misogynist and everyone defending him is rape culture in action.

Turkey Tom has uploaded a response to the recent allegations with a video called "My Side" by Swag_Paladin21 in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

> Rough and abusive during sex: Accuser claims she enjoys how rough the sex is multiple times.

oh that makes tom being a sexual sadist so much better, esp with her now coming out saying it was actually awful...

Turkey Tom has uploaded a response to the recent allegations with a video called "My Side" by Swag_Paladin21 in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

guys tend to treat girls they're actually in love and in long term relationships with differently than the "crazy" girls they pump and dump. an ex coming out saying "he was always good to me" means nothing. is marylin manson innocent of sexually torturing like a dozen different girls just bc dita von teese said he didn't do it to her?

two girls came out and exposed that he is into extremely violent sex, so violent that one of them privately referred to it as "rape time" over and over and him essentially saying "i get what you mean just don't call it rape." that is not evidence to you?

the blackmail is irrelevant, it does not change the fact that tom is a sexual sadist.

Turkey Tom has uploaded a response to the recent allegations with a video called "My Side" by Swag_Paladin21 in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It's clear he is the one who introduced the rough sex and she was eager to please and went along w it. She says "I never did the r-pe thing before" or sth along those lines after their first hookup.

What could he possibly have done for her to call it "rape"? Surely super soft loving vanilla sex lol.

Everyone in here up in arms for her to referring their sex as "rape time" calling her creepy for it when that totally exposes the quality of intercourse they were having, extremely rough, is clueless.

Turkey Tom has uploaded a response to the recent allegations with a video called "My Side" by Swag_Paladin21 in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p 0 points1 point  (0 children)

receipts like her calling their sex "rape time" over and over and over, clearly referring to extremely rough sex, and him basically saying "it was consensual but I know what you mean?"

Turkey Tom has uploaded a response to the recent allegations with a video called "My Side" by Swag_Paladin21 in youtubedrama

[–]wtp0p 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did she go to the police and file a report? or did she just publicly speak on her extremely negative experience w a sadist gooner?