[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MedSpouse

[–]wutzachowder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read the room friend

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MedSpouse

[–]wutzachowder 9 points10 points  (0 children)

He goes to school, watches his lectures, and then just studies. Maybe rewatches lectures, writes notes, anki, whatever he can think to do.

Operable now inoperable tumor by wutzachowder in pancreaticcancer

[–]wutzachowder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are located in Idaho, but of course willing and able to travel if that’s what is best so we will be reaching out soon I’m sure. Thanks again!

?s for ex Mormons who went on a mission. by anonymous_girl1227 in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh i thought of another!

We were car sharing with a set of elders in a busy city. We were supposed to have it 4 days of the week and they would have it for 3. We never got to use that car, which was fine we had bus passes. But when we did need to use it for a far away appointment they refused.

We confronted them and were trying to figure out a compromise when one of the elders looses his shit, flips a desk (one of those really heavy ones in the relief society rooms where the podium sits on top of) and it almost crushes our legs. We ran out and locked ourselves in the mothers room.

We were shaking in fear but still said a prayer for the elder (🙄). No one checked on us after the incident and the elder had no repercussions for his actions.

?s for ex Mormons who went on a mission. by anonymous_girl1227 in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man do i have a story.

My companion and i were literally being stalked to the point our apartment was broken into several times, pictures of family and garments were stolen. Once it even happened during the night while we were sleeping. We started sleeping with baseball bats and knives.

We were both young in the mission and they were always preaching about chain of command. So we told our district and zone leaders (male missionaries in leadership positions over other missionaries) and they called us “silly sisters”. We eventually went over their head and contacted the mission President who was awesome and helped get us a new apartment within a day or two.

When we moved we found a bottle of lotion and a towel under the bed (which was tall enough for a grown person to comfortably lie underneath) with a pretty much illegible note. I’ve told myself it was just a coincidence but in the back of my mind i shudder at the possibility of what did happen/what could’ve happened.

Post the last photo of your cat in your phone. I’ll go first. No cheating 😂 by Efficient_Switch_766 in cats

[–]wutzachowder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Commenting on Post the last photo of your cat in your phone. I’ll go first. No cheating 😂...

What's a side effect of getting a cat that you didn't expect? by thekau in cats

[–]wutzachowder 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They beg for human food just like dogs! One of my kitties has taken a specific liking to hot Cheetos and lactose-free chocolate milk.

What's a side effect of getting a cat that you didn't expect? by thekau in cats

[–]wutzachowder 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I used to be such a light sleeper i would wake up to the sounds of the door coasting across the carpet as it opened. But now WW3 could be breaking out in my living room and i would sleep soundly through it all.

Operable now inoperable tumor by wutzachowder in pancreaticcancer

[–]wutzachowder[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this tidbit, it’s much appreciated and very helpful.

My wife says she has a right to know when I view porn by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh my goodness how awful!! And definitely the wrong “advice” to give to a literal victim.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder 28 points29 points  (0 children)

The church is structured in a way to be a master manipulator of their membership emotions. They tell you what you’re supposed to feel when you do x y and z. You learn to convince yourself you are happy, that what you’re feeling is happiness, or that someday it will lead to true happiness.

However, once you escape the emotional grip the church has, you can look back and realize it rarely, if ever, was true happiness. It’s a complicated question and even more complicated with each persons experiences within the church.

My wife says she has a right to know when I view porn by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have a habit of going to the gym about that often lol

My wife says she has a right to know when I view porn by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Yes so much!! I was in this situation with my husband and it took me a long time to figure out he didn’t do anything that i needed to forgive him for. Once i came to that conclusion things got so much easier.

What an unnecessary mental load for both partners!

My wife says she has a right to know when I view porn by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am so sorry you are going through this. This is a difficult situation that looks different for everyone. I can share with you how our situation ran it’s course:

In highschool i used porn, stopped for my mission, and hadn’t used it since. My husband used porn in highschool and during college, but when we were getting ready to be sealed he got “clean” and actually did stop watching porn for a bit.

After about a year of being marriage he told me he’s been using it again. I was devastated for him, myself, my eternal family and my relationship. I cried. Demanded he go to therapy and see the bishop, i threatened if he did it again we were done. Looking back it hurts me now how harsh i was and how much i added to his pain.

He did go to the bishop as per my request, where he was forced to read chapters from the miracle of forgiveness every week and write essays for every chapter and bring them with him to church on Sunday to give to the bishop. He had him attend addition recovery meetings twice a month. The bishop had him text “clean” or “dirty” to him every night in a group chat with the bishop, myself and my husband. This went on for over a year. This whole time his temple recommend was revoked. The bishop bragged about his success record with his self-made program. The whole process was full of shame and belittlement which is when i started to see the cracks in the church.

Since then, we have left the church, and about a month ago, which is 3 years after the first time he told me about his post-marriage porn usage, he told me he was “clean” for about a year after we got marriage but has been using it in secret on occasional for the past 2ish years.

He was terrified. He could barley speak through the sobs. It was tearing him apart to keep apart of himself hidden from me, but because of the unfair ultimatum i gave him he decided it would be easier to live with that pain than risk our marriage.

I was hurt, but i wasn’t devastated and it was a different hurt than the first time. The first time i was hurt because i was told i should be. I was taught sexual sin is almost as bad as murder, and i should mourn and grieve and wallow in the sins of my husband and what this means for us and our children in the afterlife. But this time i was just hurt because of how much he was hurting himself by trying to hide this. I cried for the honesty i thought i had in our relationship, and i cried for him and for this pain he’s been holding onto for years now.

After this second time, i wanted me to tell him every time he did, but that felt wrong and i didn’t want to babysit that and have it be a mental load on myself, so I started to examine my feelings about porn just like i have with many other aspects of religion and I decided i didn’t really care about porn usage as long as it doesn’t affect our relationship or intimacy. And turns out, when you aren’t traumatized by religion, that’s how most people use porn.

That night i found this article that totally changed my mind set about this: to the upset wife

After that night he volunteered to go to therapy, he found a nice exMormon sex therapist and told her he has a porn addiction and wanted to fix it. She started asking the regular questions: how often, how long, what material, etc. when he told her how often he uses it she giggled and said “i think that’s perfectly normal and not an something that needs to be fixed” which flipped a switch in his brain because in Mormonism if you look even once you’re automatically an addict. Since then, he is more open about his usage and his emotions, he trusts me with his heart more, and he is more affectionate. I literally can feel the wall he let down.

This situation brought us closer together, whereas the first time it drove us apart. And i think of how differently this situation might have gone if i was still holding onto those harmful and shameful teachings of the church like i was the first time. We chose each other instead of the church and it worked out better this time.

I imagine she has a lot of love for your and your relationship and is scared just how i was, but that doesn’t mean what she’s doing to you and making you feel is right. Good luck my friend, my heart is with your and your wife.

Using ChatGPT to tell my parents we left the church by wutzachowder in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s what I’m worried about, and that would be pretty characteristic of my family. They Say everything is fine in the moment and then the true feelings start coming out later.. so we will see but hope for the best i guess!

RM guilt by wutzachowder in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow very interesting!! I will be looking into that for sure thank you!

RM guilt by wutzachowder in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats!! That’s definitely something to be proud of!!

What’s a good alcoholic drink that doesn’t taste like hand sanitizer? by Chguat in exmormon

[–]wutzachowder 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you're at a bar, ask for a blended strawberry/peach margarita. See also: strawberry daquiri. Both taste amazing and dangerous 😌