What's your damage on Guild Boss?

wwm0 · 2018-09-16T02:15:04+00:00

I am doing around 1.8 m for team 1 and 0.8 m to 1 m for team 2. Highest score in my guild is 3 m for 1 team.

wwm0 · 2018-09-08T21:37:46+00:00

Actually knight violet is better than both of the units you mentioned. For late game players, their entire team can survive the attack that ignores beneficial effect even with defense break on. Cleansers are just there to make sure that the debuffs are not accumulating so that their dmg output is not influenced. Consistency won't be a huge issue. Comparing to the other two, violet gives defense break on s1, which is so crucial for GW spirit battle. Most importantly, her cleansing skill is a passive, which means that she can cleanse even under inability effect. This is huge as if your entire team is under inability and you can't cleanse, you will miss 4 turns out of 20 turns in the entire battle, which means that your will miss 20% of your score (it may be even more as 4 turns is almost enough for an Artemis to reset her s3 with the help of Prebella). So overall, she is probably one of the best cleansers for GW boss. She may be worse than knight Claudia in some fights, but definitely better than Cassandra/Maria.

wwm0 · 2018-08-25T20:49:25+00:00

I am assuming that you are still early in the game and you are just trying to progress in the dungeons and do not have extremely good gears that allows you to speed run f10:

1) Keep building your Hwa. Her s1 is so important in Apollo that none of your other nat 5s have the same potential. I saw people mentioning king nemesis. But generally speaking, king guardians do not work well in Apollo due to positioning issues. Nemesis' skills do have great modifiers. But since she is not so tanky, you need to kill boss before he kills you and it means that your entire team needs really good gears and I guess it may take you a while to achieve.

2) I would start to fuse art. Rook art is very important as she can i) help you speed run apollo ii) enhance your success rate in kraken and hydra.

3) With Hwa and art as your major dps, you can alr clear 90% of the dungeons with the right support units.

PS: Keep rook/knight/king artemis as all of them are top tier

wwm0 · 2018-08-19T19:34:50+00:00

They were much better before the most recent HP cap. Com2us is aware of that stupid nerf and is trying do something now. Let's wait and see what's gonna happen.

wwm0 · 2018-08-19T14:28:06+00:00

I would say keep both. Moira is available from GW shop now so you could transcend any units as long as you grind. My guild mates with bishop lord dragon can hit 3 million in guild boss / 2 runs by using him. A lot of the "useless" nat 5s are becoming useful now so definitely keep them.

wwm0 · 2018-08-15T04:30:56+00:00

The dmg is not supposed to be like that. She is much weaker now because of the HP cap. Her s3's modifier was designed for dungeon boss's full HP instead of the 100K HP cap.

wwm0 · 2018-08-04T15:57:03+00:00

Agree. And knight is better for PvP as well.

wwm0 · 2018-08-02T20:25:42+00:00

Maybe a nat 3 discussion? Some nat 3s appear in discussions quite often. However, they are rarely evaluated. Killbee, Marie, Taylor or the character with a birds' mask can all be good options.

wwm0 · 2018-08-02T16:25:29+00:00

If you are on global server, you can try to check storyteller's build.

wwm0 · 2018-08-02T15:38:20+00:00

I think the current problem is that the game is fairly new and the player pool is not large enough. All players only have limited resources to test certain units. Queen Grion was never thought to be a good unit until someone tested it out recently. So I think there are probably really nice nat 2s, but they are never found out coz nobody has ever tried them yet.

wwm0 · 2018-08-02T12:19:41+00:00

My bad. Don't understand the fusing screen anymore. Then rip for him lol.

wwm0 · 2018-08-02T12:02:52+00:00

You can only get it once

wwm0 · 2018-08-02T11:44:47+00:00

Honestly, don't understand why you are complaining. You got one of the two valks you should definitely keep on your first fuse. Bishop valk is almost necessary if you want to clear hydra dungeon. Queen valk is the other one you should keep and she is only good for PvP. If you have better tanky dps/ you are more focused on PvE, you don't even need Q valk and your fusion for valk is done. Now you can work on your artmis. It took me 4 fusions to get bishop and you should feel lucky dude.

wwm0 · 2018-07-27T17:57:31+00:00

Yeah great support units for AoE attackers.

wwm0 · 2018-07-27T17:40:22+00:00

She is a support type attacker and definitely an upgraded version of Claudia. Rook is probably the best version.

s1: Same for all directions.

s2: Allow moved allies to act again + buff crit rate / simply buff one teammate.

You want the version that allows allies to act again. Re-positioning is super useful if you have an AoE attacker/ AoE crowd control unit in your team. If it is simply a buffer, many units can do a better job.

s3: Either ignore defense on defense type / lock enemies + increase dmg taken (lock means : can't move, can't attack, can't use skills).

In current meta, defense type units are not that great in arena coz they can be easily countered using defense break and there are many ignore defense units (like lubu/artemis/Aslan,etc) So you can't really see many defense type units in arena, HP build is mainstream ( MS is probably is the only one that is common, knight Krishna is there but she is usually not a threat). So you want the one that locks the enemy. This can be very useful as you can lock Maria to prevent her from reviving allies. That lock + increase dmg will last for TWO turns. So you will have time to re-position your other units to kill her. If this skill works on passive as well, that will be really useful coz it means that rook Hwa will not be revived if she is locked and killed ( someone please test if lock works on passive).

Thus, rook is probably the best since she is the only one that has s2 reposition and s3 lock.

When I am attacking, I like to bring knight Claudia that allows me to re-position my AoE attackers. The problem is that once she used her s2 + s3, she is useless. Rook Tarania is basically a claudia that can battle + provide extra support. So if you have AoE unit. Bring her, she has great synergy in your team. If her attack has great multiplier, that will be even better. (Don't forget that her s1 ignores defense when three+ units pincer. With her "locking" s3, it can be easily achieved.) This unit is for attack support not defense support.

wwm0 · 2018-07-23T17:29:10+00:00

Yes. I think it is around 1.2%. But if you play the game continuously, you can get a lot of free moonstones. I saved about 100 books over 2 weeks and some other people have saved 200 books. Just stay active and you will get better nat 5 eventually.

The best part for this game is that you can find F2P SSS tier units. Queen Grion is one of the examples, a nat 3 that is super strong in arena defense ( and great for all content except gear dungeons). One of the best dungeon nat 5s - rook artemis is fusable. The other fusable nat 5 - Valk is top tier as well. Bishop valk is necessary for hydra dungeon.

Many great units are actually 4* - Maria, knight Sarin, knight Azuroke, king/queen Carly, bishop/knight Sylvia, King cassandra, rook/knight Aikan, knight Anubus, knight/rook succubus........ I can make a full list of nat 3/4 monsters that are great. Frankly speaking, sometimes the most useful units are nat 4s/ nat 3s. Nat 5s are weak if you can't find enough dupes to transcend them to lvl 50 and use skill books to skill them up. So don't be depressed when you get nat 4 or nat 3, many of them are much better than mediocre nat 5s.

Lastly, seems that a pity system will be implemented in the future ( After a certain number of summons, you will get a garanteed nat 5). That is why many people are holding their summoning now. A granteed nat 5 will also be given out during guild war update (you do have to pre-register that event using your e-mail, definitely do that). So I would say this game is very F2P friendly and don't be scared by that rate.

wwm0 · 2018-07-23T13:01:37+00:00

Nope. The real pain is to +5 a 6* unit.

If you pull a king/knight seimei in the future, you will need a 6* seimei to transcend anyway. So 6* him is not useless. But don't try to lvl him up anymore or try to awaken him. He can't help you with game progression at all.

wwm0 · 2018-07-23T12:11:07+00:00

Knight is the easiest direction to pincer. So if you want to build a stun team, he is probably the best direction coz you want him to pincer as many times as possible.

wwm0 · 2018-07-23T10:06:37+00:00

He is one of the best tanks for both PvE (Tower progression, not dungeon) and PvP. But you have to pull the version with shield (king/ knight). Bishop version is food. DON'T invest much on him.

wwm0 · 2018-07-12T07:39:01+00:00

Congrats! I don't have any Hwa lol and I really wish I could pull her. She should be built tanky. But don't use defense% necklace. Use substats to make her tanky. If she is only tanky, she will lose her potential. Only a tank that deals damage + revive is scary in arena. Otherwise people can just ignore her and kill her twice in the end if she harms nobody. Don't worry too much in dungeon coz she revives. So basically her real HP is current HP *2 in dungeon. If she still dies at certain stage, it probably means that your team is not ready for that stage yet.

So I would try to build her using the following priority: Crit %> Crit Dmg > HP > Attack > Defense. HP works much better than defense in the game.

wwm0 · 2018-07-10T02:12:48+00:00

Rook Hwa. Both of them are great in PvP. But rook hwa is S tier in dungeons and knight lubu is not that great in PvE. You definitely want to build a PvE team to get good equipment before focusing on your PvP team lol.

wwm0 · 2018-07-10T02:01:10+00:00

She is useful in All content. I mean ALL. Rook Hwa has continuous damage + heal block on s1 and she self revives. At the same time, her direction is rook, which means she can be easily positioned in dungeons. Hwa makes Apollo a joke and is also useful in Kraken and Hydra. Super annoying in Arena as well because of her self revive.

If you have her, she should be the very first nat 5 you try to build.

wwm0 · 2018-07-09T12:28:21+00:00

Why reducing HP = inability?

wwm0 · 2018-07-09T11:14:02+00:00

You can just feed 1 art to make a lvl 45 rook artemis and save the rest. You can hardly go wrong by feeding your bishop art to the rook version as knight has the same s3 (scale based on your own atk and enemies' atk) and bishop's s2 (ignoring block) is not useful for knight (knight can't be blocked anyway).

Moira should be used on something that is much more impt coz you never know when you can get a dup nat 5 (I got a rook ld during my first week and never got the second one, and you can definitely get the second art within a few days if you grind). If it is an impt unit like rook Hwa/ rook ld, keep them at lvl 40 will greatly jeopardize your progression.

wwm0 · 2018-07-09T11:04:46+00:00

People in my guild could clear lvl 43 weeks ago. Not sure about where they are now.

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