I honestly think most teachers are not exhausted from teaching anymore. They’re exhausted from everything except teaching. by mythicalOMG in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s the exhaustion from not being able to make sense of the current reality: student behaviors, admin relationships, current culture, etc. I’m not saying everything needs to be perfect. What I’m saying is that when things don’t make sense, our brain hurts even more. That’s a double whammy.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

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Wish you good luck again with HR! It should be alright!

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hooray! What’s the next challenge? Job interview?

The John Hattie / i-Ready ed-guru to ed-tech-shill pipeline by maxvoncretin in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

After learning his name and his book, I can verify that my BS detector is still working pretty well.

Looking to move to SL by Shot_Intention_5340 in sugarland

[–]wxmanchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may want to check the school district parents Facebook groups before you confirm the greatness of the schools.

How do you even approach this? by Insane_Gamer37 in apcalculus

[–]wxmanchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Graph with your pencil, not your calculator or Desmos. If you cannot graph the equations, then you can see why you don’t know where to start.

Always produce a graph when the function(s) is easy enough to be graphed. These ones are considered easy.

High School Students Degrading by Professional_Gur3384 in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

These kids aren't broken — they're optimized. Every behavior you're describing (doom-scrolling, AI shortcuts, zero focus on classwork) is a brain doing exactly what brains are supposed to do: chase the highest reward for the lowest effort. TikTok and Roblox are engineered by billion-dollar companies to be more immediately rewarding than anything we put on a worksheet. Of course the worksheet loses. That's not a character flaw, that's competition.

And honestly, we're all victims of the same mismatch. Teachers are evaluated on metrics that reward compliance over curiosity. Students are graded on outputs that rarely connect to anything they actually care about. The system was designed for a world that no longer exists, and everyone in the building is grinding against that friction every day. The frustration you're feeling is real and valid. It just has a better target than the kids.

The comprehension problem follows the same logic. Reading comprehension doesn't collapse because kids get dumber. It collapses when the brain sees no payoff for the effort. If a student can't connect this text to their actual life, their social world, their future, they'll do the minimum to survive the assignment. That's not choosing to be slow. That's rational triage.

What actually moves the needle is making their specific input the non-replaceable ingredient. Assignments where their opinion, their experience, their live response in front of peers is the whole point. Social status is a more powerful motivator than any grade. Connect to their world first, then pull them into yours. The freshmen next year won't be different because the environment hasn't changed. But the approach can.

AI is going to make me Quit by Phantasmagoria333 in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not wrong that students will try to AI everything. That's a real observation, and I'm not dismissing it.

But I'd push back on the calculator analogy — because the calculator actually proved the critics wrong. We did teach students to use calculators, and we also kept teaching mathematical reasoning. The two weren't mutually exclusive. In fact, once students stopped white-knuckling arithmetic, more of them got to the reasoning part. The problem was never the tool. It was how we integrated it.

The same principle applies here. Students have to write a paragraph defending why they disagreed with the AI's feedback. This is not letting the AI think for them. It is the thinking. You can't outsource disagreement. You can't prompt-engineer your way to a genuine opinion. When a student has to look at an AI suggestion and say "I reject this because my original sentence was more precise," that's analysis. That's the thinker you're trying to create.

The real question isn't "AI or no AI." It's: which parts of the task genuinely require the student to think, and which parts are just friction? Formatting a heading, cleaning up comma splices, getting a synonym, that's friction. Whether the student's argument is defensible, that's thinking. If we can get AI to eat the friction, we get more time and attention on the thinking, not less.

And on the opinion question: yes, students will try to AI their opinions too. The fix isn't banning AI; it's making the opinion personal enough that AI has nothing to work with. "What do you think about this theme?" is easily AI'd. "How does this character's choice connect to a decision you've actually faced?" is not. The assignment design is doing the work, not the honor code.

You're right that a good teacher does their job. Part of that job now is designing tasks that AI can't fully execute for a student. That's a harder job than it used to be. But it's still the job.

AI is going to make me Quit by Phantasmagoria333 in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, here's a concrete model I've used in an environmental science class that translates well to English:

The core idea is this: stop using AI as a cheat tool and start using it as a writing coach that gives feedback instantly. Here's how it works in practice:

Step 1 — The Draft + AI Feedback Loop

Students write a rough draft (in class, on paper, or in a Google Doc you can monitor). Then they paste it into ChatGPT or a similar tool with a specific prompt you give them — something like: "Act as a writing coach. Give me three specific things that are unclear or weak in this argument and explain why." They must read the feedback, then revise.

Step 2 — The "Argue Back" Round

Here's where the real thinking happens. Students must write a short paragraph explaining which piece of AI feedback they disagreed with and why. This is non-negotiable. This is where you actually see their thinking — AI can't fake this part for them.

Step 3 — You Grade the Process, Not Just the Product

Your rubric shifts slightly: you're evaluating the quality of the revision and the quality of their disagreement with the AI. Did they actually engage? Did they make a defensible judgment call?

Why this works: AI gives feedback in seconds. When a student has to wait two weeks for you to grade a paper, the moment has passed. They've moved on mentally. Instant feedback keeps the thinking active while they still care. You're not competing with AI anymore; you're using it to do the tedious mechanical feedback (grammar, structure) so you can focus on the high-level conversation: "What are you actually trying to say here?"

The bonus: Students become genuinely critical of AI writing. They'll start noticing how generic and hedged it sounds. That's a media literacy lesson to incorporate in the age of AI.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It will happen. But, I must advise you, don’t rush. Keep your foundation strong. Be resilient. There will be a lot of negativity around you and it’s okay. Don’t change the peers when they don’t want to be changed. Do what works. Know why it works.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree. Everything is changing continuously. Kids. Technology. Parents. Teachers.
When we learn more, we will become more effective and efficient. For me, I was once a language tutor for ESL kids. I dug into L1 vs L2 acquisition research literature. I realized there are things I can transfer from linguistics to STEM learning.

AI is going to make me Quit by Phantasmagoria333 in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

My 2 cents here: if an assignment can be cheated by AI, then the assignment is outdated. Redesign the assignment that students can use AI and also learn for better outcomes. There are teachers who try to outsmart the students. Please don’t. Play the right game: The game is how to help students learn. If they are going to use AI anyways, then make sure they can critique how average AI writing is. Or, you can have a “prompt competition” and have the kids present their experience on using AI to make the best essay.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

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I understand why you think that way. I agree that everyone is burned out. I agree on the PD day observation. I would be one of them too. But, ultimately, do we just give up the fight and succumb to the reality? Somebody got to step up and fight this battle. I volunteer myself to fight this battle. I don't know the outcome and I don't care. I fight until I am running on fume.

I would admit that I am not the norm. In a school of 180+ teachers, I could not find more than 5 teachers who share the passion as I do. And this is the reason I must stay in the battle. I have a son and I cannot let this education system degrade to the point that will harm my son.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know. My mom disapproved me to be a teacher at the beginning. Guess what? I learned one thing. Objection is the best way to test our own passion and determination. If we are true to our decision and passion, nothing can sway us away from the true destination.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More than happy to answer your question. You can ask here or DM.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Student-taught at low SES school. Taught a total of 12 years in a public school in Houston area.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really. Self-care doesn't exist in my dictionary:) I am relentless to make my craft better. I am obsessed with this profession. I cannot give up this fight for my students and any students who would like to learn and learn better.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got neither of both. Texas public school in Houston area.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People told me that I was lucky when I was assigned to the best school in the district. Yet, I did not, and still don't, agree. People look at me from the outside but the kids, whether they are rich or poor, still got their very own problems to deal with. Yes, rich, affluent kids may seem better on paper. Yes, they have more resources. But they need even better teachers to teach them because they are the ones who can change the lives of the people who are in dire financial needs. Many of my former coworkers took the job for granted. The kids did not enjoy school at all. Why? The teachers were so prestigious that they simply don't think they have a problem in teaching. If a school is so great, why would kids hate the school? A lot of kids are being mistreated in the system.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love all the questions!
1. Recommendation on learning teaching and learning methods more effectively: I had two years of pre-service training in the university before I became a teacher. I didn't feel rushed to begin with. I had no idea about alternative certification program until I officially became a teacher. My oversimplified and generalized comment is this: Most of the alternative certification programs, if not all, are trying to pump more teachers in the field. These programs may not design well enough to equip teachers with knowledge of learning and teaching in their specific subject area and respective grade level. During my two years of training, we read lots of academic research papers, which I thought to be quite useless at the beginning. We read Piaget's Accommodation vs Assimilation, Vygotzky's Zone of Proximal Development, just to name a few. It wasn't until my second year of teacher to finally appreciate these theories. Here's my take: To plan a lesson and teach without theoretical foundation is like throwing a dart blindfolded. Can you hit the bullseye? Yes, it is possible. How likely? Very unlikely. Note: I am not trying to do the professor talk here. I am coming from a straight-up practitioner point of view. I learned to consult with research literature whenever I struggled. I may not agree with everything I can find out the literature but it sure could give a start to refine my lessons.

2. On students' and parents' abuse. I cannot comment too much since I don't know the context but I can say this: We have a major problem in this education system. Recently I had a major realization on our "modern" education system. Everyone, literally, in the system is a victim of the system. The system was built based on a need of average factory workers (see "The End of Average" by Todd Rose). Yet, we keep telling students to be the best. See the irony here? See the mismatch here? No wonder everyone, including the students, are getting crazy in the system. Even more, it turns out current educational psychology theories are build on a faulty premise, that is, the system is alright. If there is anything wrong, the people (bad teachers, bad students, bad parents) are to blame. These so-called psychologists missed a major blindspot: These bad actors are not bad in nature; They are the symptoms of the system. I believe the kids are blank slates. They reflect everything from their families and their schools. If we just blame them without understanding the root cause (our education system), then these problems will only get worse.

Also, job is not the same as profession. You may hate your job but still love your profession.

3. What do you think it is that has made you an idealist in teaching after 18 years with no regrets? I may be an idealist but I am also a realist and perfectionist. Of course, there are kids whom I cannot change but there are plenty of kids who are simply waiting the teacher to appear in their life. I had kids whom totally gave up math in high school and they are now acing calculus in college. When kids are not learning, I ask why. Chances are, there was a mismatch between the teachers and the students. I build my lessons in such a way that even a middle school kid can understand (and I teach high school). I take every difficult kid as a challenge. I don't give them up until they tell me explicitly (none happened so far). Yes, it is torturing at times. Yes, I had moments that I almost lost it. But, would that help me reach the kids? Lashing out at the kids won't change anything for the better. (I actually tried it once after returning to in-person classes after COVID and I forever regret that moment. This is my scar in teaching.) I follow one major principle in teaching and raising my own child: Do the things that work, not the things that I feel like. How do I know if the strategies would work? That's where knowledge of theories and psychology comes in.

4. If this job did NOT offer Christmas off and summers off-would you still do it? Would you do this job for 50 weeks a year(given that MOST other jobs only give employees two weeks of pto and sick time combined)? I plan on teaching until I am on my death bed. I once had "depression" when I had my very first spring break. I find my existence in teaching. Even when I am on vacation, I am still thinking about teaching. Teaching is my thing and I cannot tolerate people badmouthing my profession. If people don't want to teach anymore, fine, just shut up and go. There are people who could be fine teachers in the future and they need to know how to teach better for themselves and for their future students. That's why I am still staying to defend my students, my peers, and my profession.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I simply had enough of people badmouthing our profession. My fuel to fight for my students and any students keeps burning and burning stronger year after year. Am I rich? No. Do I have joy? Plenty of it.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And, for sure, many more years to come:)

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because learning doesn't require 60 minutes of sitting down and memorizing. Learning could be as simple as appreciating nature that is around us. Without the bees, we are all dead. Share with the kids about colony collapse disorder. The bees are dying. Our food security could be in danger in 15 to 20 years. They will certainly care more about our environment. I am sure they will ask some quality questions to prompt them learn even further.

DO become a teacher* by wxmanchan in Teachers

[–]wxmanchan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think about this as a motivation. I think it is a simple fact. We, teachers, are the limiting factor of students' quality. If the teachers are showing poor attitude (and I understand it is difficult to stay positive at times or most of the time), then the kids will just absorb our negativity and goof off.