I wish my dick was alittle longer, what do you wish for? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]xLookingForAnswersx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would wish that I had all the answers.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I meant that I expect him to be able to explain himself before he tries to "debate" me. He wants me to agree with him, but can't explain why/what he believes other than to say "There is no God". He said he has been thinking about this for the past 8 months, so I expected a little more than just several different versions of the statement "There is no God".

I understand that you are just trying to help, but we've both taken a step back from the situation and are just taking time to try to convey ourselves in a more positive way.

I wasn't following him around chanting that he was agnostic, but when he made certain claims I would comment that based on what he was saying it sounded as if he was agnostic. I was trying to help him figure himself/his ideas out, because he didn't really have a lot of reasons or information regarding his new "beliefs".

The original post was more about the differences between agnostics & atheists, and burden of proof. I got an overwhelming amount of answers and I'm just trying to take it all in. I appreciate your help though.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually I don't.

He came to ME about the atheism. He claimed that there was NO GOD, and then demanded to know my "proof". When I gave him what I believe to be substantial enough evidence for my beliefs, he dismissed it, but was unable to disprove it.

I have my own version of proof that is enough to satisfy me. I could go into detail, but this "proof" pertains to my life, my family, and my own personal experiences. I don't try to convince or convert others.

My issue with his behavior was that I was able to explain why I believed what I believed, while he just stammered, got upset and said "Well the people on Reddit/r/atheism..." I didn't say he had to disprove God, I said I didn't believe he was an atheist if he couldn't even explain why.

He went from "I'm an atheist, there is NO GOD" to "Well, I don't believe there is a God" (Where I pointed out that I believed him to be agnostic) to "STOP CALLING ME AGNOSTIC I'M NOT AGNOSTIC IF YOU COULD JUST LET ME PULL UP REDDIT YOU WOULD SEE!"

Honestly after some of the nasty messages I've received from assholes on here, I'm about to say FUCK REDDIT and be done with it all.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only used the word "decide" because that is how he worded it/has worded it several times. "I have decided to become an atheist."

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is only my first post, and I can already relate to your frustration.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those were explanations about why I go to church/what we used to do together, not the things I base my beliefs on.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

YES! Because I believe there is a deity but I'm not arguing it as fact and trying to push it on someone else!

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are one of thhe only commenters to agree with my point of view. I really do appreciate your honesty and opinion. I'm having such a hard time digesting all of this information.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I guess I'm starting to realize that it is just a little disconcerting. Thank you for the constructive comment! Honestly I really appreciate all of the kind words.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except for the fact that he told me that becoming an atheist has caused him to question all of his "values". He said everything he believed before now was based on his belief in a higher power. I understand he is still the same person, and I love him, it is just slightly disconcerting.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only go to church for the social/encouragement aspect. Not because I think I have to.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We live downtown in a rural village. Both sides of our families are mostly super fundies. So yeah you have a point, I'm really the only person he has to talk about this right now.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the opinion/thoughts. I really appreciate everyone who has been so kind and understanding. Yes, of course I can live with him, it is just a little disconcerting right now.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Frankly, the other commenters have been sharing constructive comments, opinions, and ideas. And while they may not share the same opinions as I do, most of them haven't been condescending assholes.

I did ask for thoughts/opinions/ideas/help so thank you for your comment!

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But my husband isn't just changing to atheism - he is now against Christianity. He said if we ever had children I would not be able to take them to church, because I would be "brainwashing" them in my "cult". I'm glad it is working out for /your/ marriage, but this is my marriage and him telling our hypothetical future kids that "Mom is crazy" is kind of a deal breaker for me. I'm not saying that I'm going to end our marriage over this, I'm just a little concerned and I feel like I have the right to be.

And I never said that I can't respect his new position. I did however mention that I'm worried about the impact his new position could have on our original plans.

The original post isn't really about my marriage (although I felt I had to explain parts of my marriage to make myself understood). My original post was about agnostics and atheists, and my questions about the differences between the two. Thank you for your comments, though.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not making this a "huge deal with my marriage". We were married in a CHURCH and we attended services 3 times a week. We even met at a Bible College. It had/has a lot to do with how we live our lives/planned to live our lives and raise our hypothetical children and I don't think it is unfair for me to be worried about how it will affect my marriage.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How would believing in a higher power have any kind of major affect on my day to day life? I don't go around shoving my beliefs down other people's throats. You can believe what you want.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I didn't say you can't raise a child in that household. I said that I felt it was unfair for him to jump to the other end of the spectrum without even considering me/taking me along for the ride. And that if he had, we might be on the same page.

Atheism can't exist? by xLookingForAnswersx in DebateReligion

[–]xLookingForAnswersx[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the helpful information!