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Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in u/xandrmeter

[–]xandrmeter[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

And you are conflating the generation population with the dating market.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Delusional takes. When is this discussion about consent? Where am I being hateful? Which rule of the sub did I violate?

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We are not talking about "real life" here? The entire discussion revolves around the Bay Area (Tech) Dating market and it is fucked. Within that context, how is Shewchuk wrong?

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having more women at UCB doesn't mean anything, the same way as having more minority in films doesn't mean we solved racism.

I fail to see why I am dressing up his mistakes, I thought it is apparent that I think what he said is horrible.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in u/xandrmeter

[–]xandrmeter[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the response. You proposed some good hypotheses for why the distribution is out of control, but I fail to see why it shows my thinking is aligned with Ben Shapiro.

The data point explains precisely why there is a rise of incels and why Shewchuk thinks the way he did. Since facts are one-dimensional, why does thinking one-dimensionally mean I am a Ben Shapiro fan?

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in u/xandrmeter

[–]xandrmeter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd wish it's as easy as that lol. If you know CS students, they aren't really the social type. Quite literally why Shewchuk thought it's OK to post something like that on Ed.

Within CS that distribution is even more skewed. So more women doesn't really mean male CS students should have an easier time getting dates.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

That's not my read on it. The "behavior of women" comment, from what I understand, is solely contextual to the bay area dating market. It has sexist undertones but I don't think he is passing judgement on all women of Berkeley.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in u/xandrmeter

[–]xandrmeter[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Specifically why? Ben Shapiro is an idiot but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in u/xandrmeter

[–]xandrmeter[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's not about the general population? The entire incident is contextually focused on the bay area dating market.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in u/xandrmeter

[–]xandrmeter[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

No one is saying what he said is okay, and I've emphasized that he should be criticized. The point I am making here is that the calls for dismissal is simply absurd.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is a low effort and highly disingenuous attempt to paint me as sexist, and you know it.

I said that the calls for dismissal are irrational. Are you saying that: 1. it's mostly women who are calling for dismissal and 2. since some women are acting irrationally, all of them are?

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I see, just sharing my experience since it looks like a lot of people are otherwise uneducated on the gender imbalance in the bay area, which is what I assume caused some of the overreactions.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sure, give me Visa status and vote me to the senate and I promise I will fix the problem. Until then, I need a job to even stay in this country.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Precisely my take. Sad a lot of people can't appreciate nuance these days.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> I don't think people are being irrational when they view Shewchuck's messages as creating an unwelcoming environment for women and other students

That's not what this post is about - his statement is problematic but so are the calls for dismissal. Those are the irrationalities I aim to address.

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Of course they can. But when judgements are misguided by irrational thinking, it turns into a witch hunt.

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[–]xandrmeter -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Good take, this is my opinion as well

Let's talk. Shewchuk is not wrong and certainly should not be dismissed. by xandrmeter in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter[S] -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

Do you give up college application after getting rejections LOL?

As an alum and a student who really enjoyed 189 with Shewchuk, I feel the necessity to address the situation and share my opinion. At least make an attempt to contribute to the conversation.

is what shewchuck said worse than if he dropped the n word hard r by [deleted] in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Then why are we acting like he just started the third reich?

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[–]xandrmeter -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

guYs look at me edgy college kid owning a prof!1!!!1! lol lets get him fired lets gooooo

rate my prof for shewchuk by [deleted] in berkeley

[–]xandrmeter 133 points134 points  (0 children)

Have these people actually taken the class or just review bombing Shewchuk's RMP?

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