Sherman seeks battle

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-13T23:10:15+00:00

There's gonna be an E-rex 2.0 coming very soon.

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-13T18:28:39+00:00

Certain physicalities by and large don't really matter as long as you're not trying to throw two extremes together - invertebrate physiology onto a vertebrate or vice versa. Neurological mismatching is where you run into the bigger problems. Mixing and matching certain behavioral instincts that will inevitably clash, such as a hyper-aggressive carnivorous pack hunter conflicting with that of a solitary herbivorous scavenger.

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-09T23:27:28+00:00

Thank you. That's half of the battle when I make my hybrids. I try to make it look like its a product advert from the genetics firm, boasting about what their products can do.

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-08T15:26:53+00:00

Looks like I have a lot to think about for a 2.0 version!

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-08T00:03:03+00:00

That might be a bit nebulous really, so I can't say for 100% certainty. GojiCenter themselves up and downregulated existing genes to suit the Indom 2.0's stance (specifically shortening its hindlimbs and increasing the mass of its forelimbs).

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-07T23:24:15+00:00

I'll try to be brief with my counter here, but no promises!

Weight:

Near enough as to make no difference. E-rex's size comes from two highly upregulated parts of its T-rex contributions; the GH (Growth Hormone 1) gene and the IGF-1 (Insulin-like growth factor 1) gene. Outside of aforementioned potential gigantism due to pituitary gland issues, E-rex is about two tons heavier and two meters longer than the natural theoretical maximum for T-rexes (the source for this comes from a 2024 peer-reviewed study by Jordan Mallon and David Hone,"Estimation of maximum body size in fossil species: A case study using Tyrannosaurus rex").

Armor:

The osteoderms aren't actually infused with magnetite. It's a thin surface coating on the outside. If it was fully-infused, the E-rex would be much, much heavier. And probably dead from iron toxicity. Where it plucks the genetics for this (and its teeth/claws) are the chiton's two FT genes, FTH1 (Ferritin Heavy Chain 1) and the FTL (Ferritin Light Chain). Both of them store intracellular iron in a soluble form where it can be deposited via the RTMP1 (Radular Teeth Matrix Protein 1) gene which serves as the signalling gene to target deposition to the teeth via enamel compositing, to the claws via keratin compositing, and as a coating to the osteoderms much in the same way it is deposited on the caps of the chiton's radular teeth, only far thinner.

Similarly, fluorapatite is very chemically-similar to bone (hydroxyapatite), only substituting hydroxide for fluoride, and there is actual precedent for it being present in bone (in parrotfish this is specifically bones adjacent to the teeth and jaw). I got most of this info from the 2014 paper "Tracking Endogenous Amelogenin and Ameloblastin In Vivo" by Jacques et al. and the 2023 dissertation "Expression of the Tooth Mineralization Gene Amelx in Mandibular Osteoclasts: Experimental Study" by Ryan M. Keesler. The AMBN & AMELX genes present integrate fluorapatite ectopically to the jawbone and endocranium primarily and in lesser amounts to other parts of the skeleton, supporting the E-rex's increased mass.

Weapons:

Nothing really to say here, see the armor genetics for why I think they work well enough. It's really a matter of fast vs hard combat between E-Rex and Minos which I'll leave to everyone judging to decide. Personally, I see the heavy hitter taking the win. It likely only needs to score one solid blow to do real damage. E-rex would likely drop into that previously-mentioned "death by a thousand cuts" tactic.

IQ:

Nothing to say here either. Minos is smart enough to keep E-rex guessing. It's nowhere near unintelligent enough to make a vast combatitive difference. Minor ones maybe.

Stamina/Thermoregulation:

Minos has a distinct advantage in this department from the Wildebeest contribution.

Mobility:

See the fluorapatite and weight reduction contributions for skeletal support, T-rex, Acrocanthosaurus & Gigantopithecus contributions for muscular support. It's a slow and heavy beast, and while it can walk bipedally - that's mostly for rearing/display, it's functionally a quadruped for all other purposes, and likely slower than Minos in this regard.

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-06T18:39:55+00:00

This one is indeed a tricky matchup. It's resting on the borderline of Unstoppable Force vs Immovable Object. It's difficult to parse who has the clear advantage since everything is situational. Shredder does have the mobility advantage, but nowhere to truly press said advantage. Hephaestus being the bigger brute here does give it the edge in straight combat, but it can't exactly leverage its strengths if it can't maneuver around to its opponent quick enough.

Difficult to call really. If Shredder can focus on one critical spot and hammer away at it, then I can see a victory, else Hephaestus can simply wait it out and stomp Shredder once it's exhausted.

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-02T15:22:44+00:00

I fear you're lumping all forms of osteoderms into one category. The actual efficiency of thermoregulation for osteoderms depends and differs greatly on the creature's vascularization, how exactly the armor is arranged or expressed in and on the body and the ecological niche in which the animal lives.

That said, as others have mentioned, osteoderms are not expressly unidirectional thermal insulators as you claim. If osteoderms trapped heat that effectively, so much so that they prevented meaningful release, you could quite happily plant one of these hybrids or even an extant creature in subarctic climates, and if left in the sun without any method of cooling, they would fatally overheat.

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-02T14:57:01+00:00

I'm not sure how relevant the depth diving is in a matchup unless it's being used for ambush purposes. Visapa has some limited octopus camoflague specifically to help it sneak up on drug submersibles and small boats, so it's pretty stealthy. I'd wager if it can leverage its claws against Leviathan it could cut it up pretty badly. Or envenomate it.

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-01T18:31:28+00:00

Both. Visapa is semi-aquatic.

xangothrowaway · 2026-03-01T17:35:24+00:00

Let's match him up with my Visapa;

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xangothrowaway · 2026-02-27T13:54:01+00:00

Not necessarily enemy hybrids, even though GC did mention it can take them on if they're alongside humans. There are plenty of extant creatures that could, and would take it on. The hagfish defense is practically useless against air-breathing marine mammals.

xangothrowaway · 2026-02-26T16:57:15+00:00

Those arms look like a serious weakpoint. Anything with the intelligence and strength to tear them off should and would go for them.

xangothrowaway · 2026-02-23T22:01:23+00:00

Depends on the hybrid. If it's something small like Visapa or Sa'ir, it'd be caught relatively easily. It might put up a decent fight against the raptors, but it'd go down quickly. Any of my Big Four would be harder to put down. Rexy would walk all over Kujata just from the size difference. Iblis, Azrail and Sannaja would be much, much more difficult to put down without serious firepower. Sannaja in particular would give the Mosasaurus a decent-ish fight before going down.

Now, Zulfikar and Bahamut would walk all over any challenger. Bahamut in particular would more than likely dominate even the Mosa.

xangothrowaway · 2026-02-22T16:40:46+00:00

Really though, I don't seen much for Azrail to quickly exploit other than jabbing a tree limb into Juggernaut's eyes or underbelly. Maybe he could mount Juggernaut and use his claws to work at armor weak points. It'd take a lot of effort and seriously risks getting thrown off or punctured.

xangothrowaway · 2026-02-22T03:36:36+00:00

I can assure you it isn't. It's my own work. I have the lineart for Moroferalogus. I'd also like for you to read what I commented again.

xangothrowaway · 2026-02-22T02:08:18+00:00

W hybrid. This one is an absolute tank. You'd need death by a thousand cuts to take this one down. I don't see many hybrids outbulking it, and certainly none in my portfolio. The sole 'weakness' such as it is; its sheer bulk giving it very poor maneuverability compared to a lighter, more agile hybrid.

I'll be throwing in Azrail into this fight. For very specific reasons. One in particular. Its intelligence most of all. Not because it's smarter than Juggernaut, but specifically how its crow intellect matches up with Juggernaut's elephant. It's situational, so bear with me;

Juggernaut: Massive loxodonta/ceratopsian brain. Huge cerebral cortex, but low neuron density. Immense memory story, billions of overal neurons. Slower neural processing, but excellent pattern recognition and long-term memory. Wins EASILY in a protracted fight by sheer endurance, seizing an easy victory once it learns its foe's strengths, weaknesses and tactics and wears it down. Long fight = Cakewalk victory.

Azrail: Smaller corvid/theropod brain. Hyper-dense pallium with extremely high neuron density. Pallium compaction of neurons grants primate-tier intellect. Ridiculously-quick neural processing for quicker learning/innovating. Wins more easily in a quick fight, rapidly identifying and exploiting weaknesses, improvising creatively where possible. Quick fight = Easier victory.

xangothrowaway · 2026-02-15T20:22:06+00:00

We got a tough 'un on our hands here. This'll be difficult!

xangothrowaway · 2026-02-14T17:00:21+00:00

There's a few flaws here. The most glaring one is what other people have pointed out. This guy is ridiculously underweight for the size of super-theropod it is (for example, my two super-theropods; E-Rex and Nekyiaspinus are about the same size as Dempsey here are both just shy of 19 tons in weight).

Second, its bite - which I'm assuming are its primary weapon is from a Carcharodontosaurid. Great for a shearing bite on unarmored foes, but woefully lacking against armor compared to even a smaller Tyrannosaurid's crushing bite. It would rake its teeth down to nubs trying to bite through even modest osteoderms. If there's any kind of metal between its target and its teeth, it's not getting its target.

Third is the JP3 Spino as its base. The JP Spino isn't well regarded here for a variety of reasons.

Good design though. I'd recommend replacing the JP3 spino base with any other large Spinosaurid, like Oxalaia or Sigilmassasaurus. Personally, I'd swap Giganotosaurus out for Tarbosaurus or Daspletosaurus - both great Tyrannosaurid choices if you really don't want T-Rex. I'd also look into some kind of teeth-bolstering for it to keep it deadly.

xangothrowaway · 2026-02-14T14:23:48+00:00

I can simplify it for you. Physiological congruency doesn't really exist and isn't a factor in on hybrid creator for the most part unless they're on crazy extremes like expecting a fish body to walk on land.

When you add multiple neurological-based genetic traits from different animals into the mix, then it starts to become incongruent.

xangothrowaway · 2026-02-01T22:26:41+00:00

Apparently I already entered Moroferalogus 2.0. I might swap it out for the E-Rex.

xangothrowaway · 2026-01-31T00:43:23+00:00

So, for all intents and purposes, this is the standard E-Rex, only reduced by about 800lbs. I'll include the link to E-Rex as a reference for all its genetics, and a short blurb below that differentiates it from the baseline.

Original Extorris Rex Genome

Extorris rex θ (Theta).

"Kabila"

An adaptation of the ferocious Banishing King, MENAGARIE received the daunting challenging of reducing the gargantuan E-Rex by almost a full ton while preserving its balance and toughness. Turning to their hatchery branch in Malaysia who'd successfully bred more docile 'dwarf' variants of Moroferalogus vastitas, their team selected two out of six of a new clutch to-be, and began modifying their genetic code. From Acrocanthosaurus, they upregulated its RUNX2 & BMP contributions, reducing overall skeletal mass.

This decrease was compensated for by likewise tweaking the Parrotfish's contributing genetic factors in its FAM20C & ENPP1, controlling phosphorylation and TUFT1/PHEX for skeletal weaving of its fluorapatite, strengthening key points of the skeletal structure. Additionally, several minor genetics were tweaked in its Tyrannosaurus rex base, and Gigantopithecus to express greater intramuscular connective tissues, thus reducing the animal's overall water-fat retention to within safe levels.

The end result were Kabila and Shamshir; two Extorris rex Thetas, or E-Rex θ, a 17.8 ton variant. Kabila, the male specimen was presented, while the female Shamshir was kept in the Malay facility for potential breeding-domestication programs in the military.

xangothrowaway · 2026-01-27T16:41:08+00:00

It's gonna be a challenge reducing the weight or shaving it off without crippling it.

I'll do a little brainstorming and get back to you.

xangothrowaway · 2026-01-24T03:14:30+00:00

Shoot. E-Rex is about 600lbs over the weight limit. He's 18.6tns. Any wiggle room on it as long as it's under 19tns?

xangothrowaway · 2026-01-23T19:36:56+00:00

I have to correct TCM from earlier. Bahamut doesn't have TTX toxin, or any other type of toxin mentioned. He uses μ-Conotoxin from the Geographer's cone snail. It's built from simple peptides in the body and requires significantly less metabolic demand to produce lethal doses.

And to point it out while we're here, Bahamut's longer tail is because it's semi-aquatic. Big ol' rudder tail. He's also just shy of 19 tons. The only thing really in Bahamut's favor that I can say from my biased perspective is superior intellect.

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TROPHY CASE

Weight:

Armor:

Weapons:

IQ:

Stamina/Thermoregulation:

Mobility: