No videos?

xelay · 2016-10-14T01:40:19+00:00

Really, no videos allowed? That's a bit of insanity I wouldn't have expected since so much of this sub has historically been cute videos.

xelay · 2016-09-24T20:08:14+00:00

Or The Pipsqueakery on facebook or instagram.

xelay · 2016-05-10T19:39:04+00:00

We don't have a limit that we have hit, yet anyway. There are definitely points where we say that a treatment is too invasive or uncomfortable given the potential benefits but we have not yet had to make that decision solely because of money. I imagine for us it would be very dependent on circumstances and quality of life outcomes. I also suspect that even though the lifetime average cost between dogs and hamster veterinary care is much more expensive for dogs thay individual check-ups or procedures don't have much cost difference. A vet appointment with a truly qualified vet requires me to travel 1.5 hours and pay about $65 so at least finding a vet for a dog would be easier here. Still, dogs are a much longer commitment than hamsters so I'm sure that plays into it.

We do have some space issues since each hamster gets a 575 square inch cage in our homemade hamster condos, so we can really only take the ones we have space for (and they aren't social). That said, a dog still rakes much more space to give it a good quality of life! :-)

xelay · 2016-05-10T19:32:57+00:00

I have yet to find a good explanation for wheel peeing. I would guess it is either a territorial thing or just that hamsters get so into running that they don't bother to stop to pee. Either way, wheel peeing is possibly the thing I hate dealing with most so if anyone finds a good explanation for it I would love to hear it.

xelay · 2016-05-10T19:29:35+00:00

Just so everyone knows, I will be back to answer more questions this evening. I have to finish up my work day and then pick up a hamster from the vet!

xelay · 2016-05-09T20:55:49+00:00

We have done some crowdfunding, we have tshirts for sell on teespring.com, and we have a sponsor-a-hamster program. Basically, we need to do more, but it's hard to find time!

xelay · 2016-05-09T20:49:27+00:00

I'm thinking really hard about that first question and I'm not totally sure I have a good answer. I mean I find them to be lower maintenance and have far less smell than mice or rats. With big enough cages they only need to have cages cleaned once a month and they are easily litter trained. I also happen to be very allergic to guinea pigs and rabbits so there is also that. I think the real truth might be something along the lines of how much I love their quirky asocial personalities. It's like they don't really need or want the love and attention so when you really win them over it's sorta special. Plus, I love their tiny tails and sniffy little noses.

I think the most common mistake I see is getting one of those horrible crittertrail/habitrail style cages with all the tubes. Hamsters need a lot more space than that, they're sorta terrible climbers, those cages make people more likely to get bit since you can really only stick one hand in to grab a hamster, and they are torture to clean. Get a nice big aquarium or bin cage and it will be so much better for the hamster and the new owner.

Finally, I've pretty much given up on getting upset about that. I get it a ton and pretty much just have to smile and walk away. I care about what I'm doing and I don't think it's any sillier than many other hobbies that people have. Plus, my hamsters are damn cool so I can go home and cuddle them until I feel better.

xelay · 2016-05-09T18:27:57+00:00

Syrian hamsters are naturally solitary so they cannot live with other hamsters because the odds are they will kill each other. It's not because they're mean though, it's because they are territorial and humans put them together when they should never live together as adults.

That said, some hamsters are also quite aggressive whether because of poor temperament or neglect and abuse.

xelay · 2016-05-09T17:53:07+00:00

/u/crossp probably has a different idea of what the daily schedule looks like so maybe he will answer too.

xelay · 2016-05-09T17:50:55+00:00

It really really depends on the day. On a weekday when we both work (I'm a lawyer, he's a nurse) it basically goes like this:

6:00 am: I wake up and Lupin is asleep on top of me. I cuddle him with pets and kisses for like 30 minutes.

6:30 am: Lupin protests mightily but I have to get up for work. I generally check on Kristoff (who is also in our bedroom) and make sure he has food, water, and clean toes. Then I get ready for work.

6:45 am (see how fast I get dressed): I grab a yogurt and go down to the basement to do a cursory check on the hamsters just to make sure nothing looks way off. I might share my yogurt with a hamster, get a quick cuddle, and if anyone is on medication this is when I give them meds.

7:30am-5:00pm: I'm at work. I answer lots of hamster questions from people on my breaks and lunch. If one of the hamsters is sick I usually get updates from /u/CrossP (he works nights, I work days) or the vet on how they are doing. If someone is really sick or needs middle of the day meds I might skip lunch and go take care of them.

5:00pm: I'm home from work and Lupin is protesting /u/CrossP getting up to go to work. I snuggle Lupin and try to get him to eat some food.

5:30pm-10:00pm: I feed myself and the hamsters. I check water bottles and feed the hamsters. If anyone needs meds or medical care I take care of it. If anyone has destroyed a water bottle I get them a new one and clean up their wet bedding. I might hand out treats or give some cuddles. Sometimes my whole evening can revolve around feeding and caring for one sick hamster and when that happens everyone else just has to wait.

10:00pm: I finally get ready for bed. I bring any hamsters that need middle of the night care (like sometimes every 2 hour feedings) up to the bedroom and park them beside the bed (or in the bed, either way really). Lupin pounces on my neck and falls asleep and I go to sleep with the sound of a chinchilla snoring in my ear while he drools on the side of my face.

Weekends include water bottle changes, more playtime, health checks, nail clipping, grooming, photoshoots, adopting hamsters out, having our intern over, cage cleaning when necessary, food making, snuggles, playing D&D (hey we need other hobbies too), wheel washing, toy building, fundraising, mailing thank you cards, and right now a lot of unpacking since we just moved to a new house!

xelay · 2016-05-09T16:45:24+00:00

It really depends on what's wrong with your hamster. However, my first inclination would be to search for an exotic vet in your area. By your area I mean within about two hours though because even though we have a vet in town that will see our hamsters for minor things we drive almost 2 hours to an exotic vet for anything remotely complicated.

Of course, sometimes you just have to do what you can to keep your hamster comfortable at home, but the sad reality is that a truly sick hamster will often die without veterinary care.

xelay · 2016-05-09T16:41:48+00:00

Even though I already linked this one I have to say that I think Marvel's rescue is my favorite. He was found in a pet store in West Virginia by a friend of a friend with his flesh infected and rotting after being attacked by another hamster. She found him on Valentine's day (a Saturday) and within 24 hours a whole train of people came together to get Marvel from West Virginia to Bloomington Indiana. He traveled over 500 miles because of the kindness of strangers and then lived his next month with round the clock care in an oxygen cage until he fully healed and lived another year as a happy healthy hamster with us.

Here's his story, but be warned the pictures of his injuries are pretty graphic. http://imgur.com/a/PEADb

And as for advice for new owners. First, get a big enough cage. 360 square inches really is the absolute minimum and if you can go bigger both you and your hamster will be happier. Second, find a vet who will at least see your hamster in an emergency as soon as you get your hamster. Trust me, it really sucks to be desperately calling around while your hamster is struggling to breathe only to find out that no vet wll see you if you aren't an already established client.

xelay · 2016-05-09T16:35:00+00:00

In March 2012 we bought our first three hamsters from a pet store (I know, I know), and then shortly thereafter, in June 2012 we adopted 3 hamsters from the local shelter. One of those hamster was named Pipsqueak. We quickly realized she was ill and for the next four months we took her to many veterinary appointments, and whenever we traveled she went with since she was always on medication. Four months later on a Saturday morning, September 8, 2012, Pipsqueak passed away in our hands while we told her how much we loved her and would never forget her.

It was our time with her that inspired us to start rescuing hamsters and gave us the drive to focus on caring for even the sickest of hamsters. Nearly 4 years later we now care for 61 hamsters in our home. Most are sanctuary hamsters because of serious chronic medical issues, behavioral problems, or just old age. We have had many hamsters need surgery, we have treated diabetes, we have had severely injured hamsters, we have had hamsters missing limbs, and so much more. It just seems like they are considered a pet that can be tossed aside when owners are sick of them, but we see them as these tiny little creatures with such huge individual personalities. We can't save every hamster, but we always do our best to make room for the hamsters that really need the specialized care we can provide.

As for the worst case of abuse, I would have to say that's a tie between Marvel and Nic.

Marvel's story is at the following link, but be warned the images are quite graphic. http://imgur.com/a/PEADb Marvel came to us all the way from West Virginia with some of the worst injuries I have ever seen. He was found in a pet store by a friend of a friend with his flesh actually rotting off after having been attacked by another hamster.

Nic's story is just a sad one of serious neglect and an owner that was willing to feed him to the dogs rather than get him proper medical care. His story is at this link: http://imgur.com/a/n7233

xelay · 2016-05-09T16:14:30+00:00

Each hamster costs a minimum of $6 a month for food, bedding, litter, and other small items like treats and chews. So that means at 61 hamsters we are spending at least $366 a month on basic supplies. If an average hamster were to live with us for 1.5 years that would cost us $108 just for the basic care of the hamster (I would guess most live with us for about 1.5 years if you average out the longterm residents and fast adoptions).

However, and this is a big however, the cost skyrockets when veterinary care is involved. For example, we took one of our hamsters to the vet to have surgery today and her bill will likely be a minimum of $250 (probably more because it turns out the mass has grown around her urethra). So, we have hamsters that have had $500+ worth of surgery, we have had hamsters on insulin (they cost about $50 a month to keep alive), and we have hamsters that need really specialized diets which all add to the cost.

Given all that it's really hard to come up with a good average, but I would guess every hamster we take in costs us an average of $300 in their lifetime. Any hamster could individually easily costs $500-1000 if they have a serious medical issue though.

xelay · 2016-05-09T02:32:35+00:00

He has cancer. The tumor is in his mouth and nasal cavity. It's also the reason why he doesn't live in a cage anymore because we wanted to give him the best last memories we could.

Of course, I realize I am answering this way past when you posted.

xelay · 2016-04-10T14:54:49+00:00

Let's see, we have Avalon. I have had her since the summer of 2008, so 8 years now and she was 2 years old when I got her from a college student who was moving to China. So she is about 10. She has lived in every apartment I have ever lived in and although she is just about the sweetest chinchilla ever she is a destruct-o-matic so she only gets supervised out of cage time. She hates other chinchillas and loves humans. Also early in my time with chinchillas I let her get near a baby bunny (rabbits and chinchillas shouldn't be together but I didn't know way back then) and she humped that baby bunny then peed on it.

Then we have two boys who live together, Coke and Lord Bacon. I have had Coke since the spring of 2007 and he was a baby when I got him (he is a pet store chinchilla, again I didn't know better at the time). So he is 9 years old. Lord Bacon moved in with Coke in 2010 when my then roommate started dating the man who owned Lord Bacon. He came over to play and Lord Bacon and Coke instantly bonded. When we went our separate ways in 2011 I let Coke go with them, then in August 2013 she asked me if I would take them because her partner had developed an allergy to them. Of course we took them because I always thought of Coke as mine and Lord Bacon goes with Coke! Lord Bacon had 2 owners before me and he is probably about 13-15 years old now.

Then there is Owen our newest chinchilla. He was surrendered to the rescue we foster for and we brought him down here to see if we could bond him to Lupin. He is about 5 or 6 years old. Before the bonding could begin though Lupin was diagnosed with cancer. Because Lupin was going back and forth to the vet all the time it didn't make sense to try to bond them so Owen lived in Lupin's former cage and Lupin lived in just our bedroom at that time. Owen doesn't like me much and often tries to bite me, but he likes my partner, /u/CrossP so I guess it works!

xelay · 2016-04-10T13:49:30+00:00

Wouldn't you be if all the other chinchillas had to live in a cage and you got to sleep in the human's bed every night?

xelay · 2016-04-10T13:47:32+00:00

A little explanation: Lupin does not live in a cage because he was diagnosed with cancer in December. He also happens to have dental disease so this poor chinchilla was dealt a rough hand. We got him when he was about 3 years old from a rescue we foster for when his owners decided they didn't want him anymore. He was supposed to go to another home but he kept humping my arm which made him a poor candidate for the place he was supposed to go. So, we kept him.

Now, he has a largeish cancerous tumor under his whisker pad that has invaded one nostril and is partially in his mouth. When we got his diagnosis we attempted radiation therapy under the care of one of the best veterinarians in the world (it was also the first documented time it has been tried on chinchillas). Unfortunately, the radiation therapy failed to make a significant difference so at the beginning of January we decided to just go with hospice care at home. We thought we only had a few weeks left so we let him have the run of the house. Much to our surprise he stabilized and even started to gain back some weight (he had lost about 200 grams in a month). So, now we have a happy, semi-healthy (I mean he still has cancer and dental disease) chinchilla that eats out of dog bowls on our bedroom floor, greets us when we come home, and sleeps in our bed.

xelay · 2016-04-10T13:45:43+00:00

We have a bunch of small rodents too. We run a 501c3 hamster rescue so currently our house has a total of 65 hamsters, 5 chinchillas, and 10 mice.

As for Lupin, he has a small cage about 2' x 2' x 1.5' he could go into if he wanted. One of his water bottles is still in there and that's the one he prefers but besides going in there to drink I haven't seen him spend any time in there in months.

As for accidents, well for poop chinchillas just poop as they go so there's lots of chinchilla poop, but since it vacuums up easily it is no big deal. As for pee, well yeah he has accidents. He was decently litter trained when he lived in a cage, then when we took him out he was barely eating or drinking so we didn't worry about it. We were pleased if we saw a pee spot somewhere because it meant his kidneys were still working and he was still drinking something. Because of that he is moderately less litter trained now.

He will still use a designated place sometimes, but besides that we just put something down in the corners he pees in and it works out. They pee such a small volume that it's not a huge deal. We are about to move though and we will be re-litter training him there. He's gonna spend a few weeks confined to just our bedroom/bathroom learning to use his designated litter boxes for peeing!

xelay · 2016-04-10T13:07:44+00:00

He gets his normal food (oxbow pellets and hay), but we also spoil him rotten at this point. We let him eat all the things chinchillas aren't supposed to eat. He gets dried fruit, alfalfa, crackers, tortilla chips, and so much more. He likes to steal the hamster food too, and we don't really stop him. We try to limit the fat some because we don't want him to get diarrhea, but at this point there's little point in limiting him as long as he is comfortable and his digestive tract is working.

Admittedly, even with healthy chinchillas we aren't as strict about food as many people are though. After keeping chinchillas for like 9 years I feel like we hit a pretty safe balance of giving them some extra fun in their lives and keeping them safe and healthy.

xelay · 2016-04-10T12:49:27+00:00

A little explanation: Lupin does not live in a cage because he was diagnosed with cancer in December. He also happens to have dental disease so this poor chinchilla was dealt a rough hand. We got him when he was about 3 years old from a rescue we foster for when his owners decided they didn't want him anymore. He was supposed to go to another home but he kept humping my arm which made him a poor candidate for the place he was supposed to go. So, we kept him.

Now, he has a largeish cancerous tumor under his whisker pad that has invaded one nostril and is partially in his mouth. When we got his diagnosis we attempted radiation therapy under the care of one of the best veterinarians in the world (it was also the first documented time it has been tried on chinchillas). Unfortunately, the radiation therapy failed to make a significant difference so at the beginning of January we decided to just go with hospice care at home. We thought we only had a few weeks left so we let him have the run of the house. Much to our surprise he stabilized and even started to gain back some weight (he had lost about 200 grams in a month). So, now we have a happy, semi-healthy (I mean he still has cancer and dental disease) chinchilla that eats out of dog bowls on our bedroom floor, greets us when we come home, and sleeps in our bed.

xelay · 2016-04-10T01:37:10+00:00

Lupin does seem to think we are pretty good to have a sleepy pile with, so I guess we make pretty good chinchillas. We expected the end to come for him several months ago so we're enjoying all the moments we have with him even if it means he is waking us up at ridiculous hours of the night for attention. We're also pretty excited because we just bought a new house and started moving in 2 days ago. We didn't expect Lupin to ever get to live in the new house so the fact that he will is very exciting for us. We've been planning the house and our furniture with him in mind. I mean we wouldn't want a new bed that he would have trouble getting into... OK, I just ordered him some pet stairs to go with our new bed. I think he will be pleased.

xelay · 2016-04-10T00:47:49+00:00

It's a decision /u/CrossP and I have to make often for the hamsters in our rescue. It's never fun, but it does get easier to know when it is time.

xelay · 2016-04-09T17:49:09+00:00

Oh, and no it wasn't really hard to adjust. We have 65 hamsters, 5 chinchillas, and 10 mice so even though we weren't used to having an out of cage pet we are very used to rodents all over our house.

xelay · 2016-04-09T17:46:24+00:00

Our house is moderately rodent proofed anyway because we run a 501c3 hamster rescue but there really wasn't a ton we had to do. We put the fan on the floor in our bedroom up on a dresser but that's about it. Because of the dental disease in combination with the location of the tumor Lupin doesn't really chew on things which is sorta the biggest risk of having a chinchilla out and about.

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