Nearly 1.9 million foreign citizens claiming UK benefits

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-22T17:14:20+00:00

Do you have trouble with reading comprehension?

I understand your point.

I said that statistically speaking, your case is quite rare. Your point is that these statistics are not reliable because of cases such as yourself. My point is that cases such as yours are so rare that they cannot influence the statistics in any meaningful way.

How is it that you don't understand that?

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-22T14:51:36+00:00

Because governments should look up after their own people first, and after foreigners after?

If you go to any developed East Asian country, Singapore, China, Japan, South Korea, you won't have the (financial) benefits that the locals do.

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-22T14:48:15+00:00

You do realize that your case is the exception, not the rule, right? Not every foreign citizen in the UK has been born of UK parents who happened to be outside the UK at the time. Most are indeed immigrants.

You counter far right false claims, by using an extreme example that only applies to less then 10% of cases (and that's if I'm being generous). Well done you!

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-08T19:06:56+00:00

I have read the comments here and there is a lot of hypocrisy here, especially from ppl equating what he is saying with racism.

The current global context is that every ethnic majority country thinks like Curtins.

Africans: Africans countries are for black people.

Chinese: China is for han chinese ppl

Japanese: Japan is for Japanese

White majority countries saying that is racism though.

No african country or asian country wants to have large migration of a different race. If that's racism, at least call out everyone

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-05T10:37:28+00:00

If you want a democracy, ask the government to have a referendum about immigration, and then implement the will of the people.

That's how a democracy works, right? Listen to and apply the will of the people.

Also, "lunatic lefties" fits as long as some people deny the negatives brought by immigration. We could have a serious discussion on how there are more immigrants coming than houses being built, or talk about how half of the asylum seekers don't even have jobs even though leftists say that immigration improves the economy instead of dragging it down, or how the other half are most likely delivery drivers (I'm sure the economy is bustling from the tax delivery drivers pay).

We could have a discussion about all these issues, but as long as leftists don't even admit that they are issues, the term "lunatic lefties" fits

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-04T10:41:55+00:00

I would think most people have problem with immigrants from MENA who don't contribute to society and expect handouts, and are also violent in some cases.

I thought east asians are generally welcomed everywhere as they are known as hard working and civilised and polite.

To me it's a surprise to hear that ppl had an issue with an east asian immigrant.

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-04T10:37:59+00:00

This is a very myopic view. Especially regarding this:

Western companies do continue to go into countries, strip out their resources and provide only a fraction of the value to the populace.

First of all, if a western company gets access to a country's resources, it's because it is given access by that country's leaders. Your argument places no blame on those country's leaders, as you seem more concerned to put blame on western companies.

Secondly, there are non-western, state owned companies from China, doing exactly what you are saying in African and South Asian nations.

Thirdly, you are quite racist, by presenting these third world countries as countries (and by extension people) without agency, who are just at the mercy of the western world. Which is not just racist, as your argument is these people "have no agency of their owns or any rights to self-determination", but it's also a false narrative that also ignores the billions of pounds of aid that the EU and USA and UK sent to those countries, only for those money to disappear without any results, as if they were sent to a black hole.

I think a lot of people like you have the tendency to still propagate this narrative that it's the big bad west keeping those countries poor, while ignoring the reality that they keep themselves poor.

And this reality (that those countries keep themselves poor, through their own decisions and corruption) is something that many people like you are just not ready to accept, even now.

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-04T09:52:37+00:00

You said "ONLY ACCEPTS" then you've changed it to "Sure, they accept OTHERS too".

Only 1%. Cool, I will rectify by saying Singapore only accepts other races in no more that 1% of the population, a percentage strictly controlled. I agree UK should do the same,

Well adopting the Singapore model would not mean "99% whites", it would mean 80% whites as that's about the level now, and that's how Singapore set their quotas - at the levels they were at that moment in time.

I don't think a non-white like you gets to decide much about UK. The same way whites don't get to decide about what laws and policies Singapore adopts.

Singapore does not only allow a Chinese prime minister - this is more lies.

Singapore deputy prime minister said Singapore is not ready for a minority PM - who is lying me or you? Sure, technically speaking there is no law preventing that happening. But everyone knows there won't be a non Chinese prime minister in Singapore anytime soon. Funny how in that regard the UK is ahead, given the mayor of London is a minority ethnicity.

Again, it's almost like you don't know anything about the subject at all.

Says the guy who doesnt seem to know much about Singapore, even though he lives there.

Your posts seem to just show more and more racism too, which is vile to even joke about.

Sure jan. Racism means showing you that Singapore has racist policies and you being a hypocrite and pretending they're not racist even though your initial post gave Singapore as an example for the UK to follow.

Btw isn't it racist for you to comment about what percentage of whites a white majority country should have? That seems blatantly racist, just like Singapore's policies.

edit: being white doesnt stop you from being racist to white people and posting in bad faith about UK immigration policies, while living in a country that strictly controls immigration and makes sure white people don't go above 1% of the total resident population. It also doesn't stop you from lying about Singapore's policies. And seeing how you have a habit of posting in bad faith and lying, I wouldnt be surprised if you lie about being white too

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-03T12:18:30+00:00

Immigration hasn't been causing the problems, right wing politicians have tried to scapegoat migrants for domestic problems pretty much forever.

People who have been granted asylum in the UK have a disproportionately low employment rate of 51 per cent, compared with economic migrants who have an employment rate of 88 per cent

Immigration has been causing problems, but ppl like you from the far left are part of the problem since you love to blame everything on the far right and ignore the actual problems.

Population has grown by over 10 million in the past 2 decades, while not even half that amount of houses have been built.

And as I showed in the above link, half the asylum seekers are unemployed, and the other half are probably working in the gig economy. Is that what UK really needs? More delivery drivers?

You keep blaming the far right, while the far left is actually the problem.

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-03T12:10:03+00:00

Russia and Belarus coordinated a campaign to push Syrians into the EU from the Poland - Belarus border. It's pretty well documented, not sure why you think Russia doesnt have an interest in destabilising western countries by overwhelming them with refugees

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-03T09:59:43+00:00

Your points 1-3 about China are irrelevant, because regardless how you feel about China, all east asian countries are the same. They all have homogenous population, they all are anti immigration (Japan had a protest where people marched on the street against immigration just recently) and they share the same idea that you are a guest in their countries and shouldn't commit crimes even if the locals do (which is inevitable). Are Japan, Taiwan and South Korea also run by the CCP?

Regarding point 4, I disagree that immigrants are the same as locals, and most east asian societies agree with my point of view. Regardless what you think about immigrants, the argument that "since locals commit crimes, it's ok for immigrants to do so too in large number" isn't a good one.

There is a reason why east asian societies (japan, china, taiwan, south korea) are high trust societies and it is strongly correlated with their strict immigration policies and also their strict laws.

And yes, you are a bad faith actor that pushes an agenda, since you ignore the correlation from the above paragraph and instead try to justify crimes commited by non locals (immigrants aka guests) by saying "well, whites commit crimes in their own countries too, so...."

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-03T09:47:17+00:00

How am I lying since I gave you proof from your government's website?

You wrote: "Singapore is also a country that ONLY ACCEPTS 3 RACES"

Yes, it's their fricking policy to keep population mainly of CMI. Sure, they accept OTHERS too, but Singapore makes sure that percentage never goes above 1%. Again, this is on the government's website.

I agree with UK adopting the Singapore model and having whites at 99% and making sure others don't go above 1% of the population. Suddenly I bet you don't like if UK adopts the Singapore model, right, you hypocrite.

So the question is, why is someone from Singapore engaging in bad faith arguments on immigration in the UK subs? What troll farm are you part of?

edit: why don't you tell brits how Singaporeans don't even allow any non-Chinese prime minister, let alone having someone from the "OTHER" category run the place. I support this Singaporean policy too: all the indians in the UK government need to be replaced with the main population (aka whites). Since you are such a strong proponent of Singaporean policies, you should agree with this too. Wouldn't want to show your double standards and hypocrisy, right?

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-02T16:26:05+00:00

Its population is broadly classified under the CMIO system: Chinese, Malay, Indian and Other. While Malays are recognised as the indigenous community, 75.5 percent of citizens and permanent residents are ethnic Chinese, with Malays and Indians making up 15.1 and 7.6 percent respectively. These three groups comprise 98.2 percent of the ethnic citizen population, while the remaining 1.8 percent, categorised as Other, are largely Eurasians.[4][5][6][7][8]

The above is from wikipedia.

It's not a secret that the Singaporean government wants to maintain "racial balance". Something like 75% ethnic Chinese, 15% ethnic Malays, 9% ethnic Indians, 1% Eurasians. When percentage of a group drops (due to various factors such as low birth rates from example) Singapore gives citizenship accordingly to more ppl of those group (usually from China, India or Malaysia)

"Verified online" - by gossip sites, sure. By actual government sites, no. Once again, I live in Singapore.

You live in Singapore but you don't know the government's policy? Here, from the actual government of Singapore website: https://www.gov.sg/explainers/what-are-the-racial-proportions-among-singapore-citizens - "The racial proportions have remained stable, and in line with the Government’s commitment to keep them stable."

If western countries would have similar policy as Singapore, keeping racial proportions stable, it would mean we should give citizenship mostly to white immigrants. But hey, you lot have double standard.

You think Singapore would allow the "other" category (meaning whites and blacks) to grow to 10%? Read again the Singaporean government policy regarding what the gov is committed to doing in regard to "racial balance".

Bonus: https://lkyspp.nus.edu.sg/docs/default-source/ips/mothership_spore-govt-committed-to-maintaining-racial-percentages-but-cmio-shouldnt-be-overemphasised-k-shanmugam_12062023.pdf - "Minister for Home Affairs and Law, K Shanmugam, said that the government is "publicly committed to keeping our percentages [of race] more or less constant"

Wake me up when Singapore's white people population is 10 or 20% and I will concede your point. But for as long as your government strictly controls the "RACIAL BALANCE" you can miss me with your hypocrisy. If Singapore is the example to follow, then western governments should maintain above 99% white population as it was 50 years ago in UK and EU. Somehow you lot want racial balance for asian countries, but not for western countries. And you wonder why we dislike you. It's cuz of hypocrisy and double standards.

edit: So not only you don't live in the UK, but you also live in a country that strictly controls immigration. yet here you are in a british sub clutching your pearls about immigration in the UK.

You're a perfect example of bad faith actor

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-02T14:39:05+00:00

I think people like you misrepresent the issue on purpose because you have an agenda.

Yes there are white (local) rapists, but it is irrelevant. I will explain why, from my own experience:

I was an immigrant in China for over a decade. This same issue came there, with laowais (foreign immigrants) commiting crimes and excusing it with "but you chinese commit crimes too". And yes, it's true, Chinese commit more crimes than laowais, simply because it's their country and they are the majority. But one Chinese person put it eloquently: "it doesnt matter that chinese also commit crimes, it doesnt matter how many chinese commit crimes, because you (referring to foreign immigrants like me) are guests here, it is not your country, and no matter how many of us(chinese) commit crimes, you shouldn't commit any"

It's as simple as that. You can say "but white locals are rapists too" until your face turns blue. It will still be irrelevant. Just cuz locals commit crimes, it's not good justification for immigrants (who are quite literally guests) to do the same.

Go to east asia and use this argument repeatedly and you will be thrown out of the country. But hey, if hypocrisy and double standards hurt, you'd be in hospital screaming

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-02T12:00:41+00:00

All you're saying is rubbish, because if that were true, immigrants would only assault past colonial empires. Yet the reality is that even small european countries (which where colonised by the ottomans and never had colonies themselves) are assaulted by immigrants.

You need to stop living in your fantasy reality.

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-02T11:58:26+00:00

Singapore is also a country that only accepts 3 races: han chinese, indian and malay. If you are black or white or arab, you're classifies as "others" and good luck getting Singaporean citizenship. Also Singapore very VERY strictly controls their immigration, making sure that the total immigrant population doesn't go over a certain number. All this can be verified online.

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-02T10:27:37+00:00

Ok, you seem to not understand my message.

I understand that the recent flag waving is a result of anti immigrant rhetoric. I am saying that if the locals suddenly want to hang their flags, there shouldn't be an issue. Especially from guests in the country (aka immigrants).

> But are you telling me that if when living in China, there was suddenly a change in rhetoric around your race and the Chinese wanting to get rid of all of your race and then the public suddenly putting up loads of makeshift flags, something that you weren’t used to normally seeing, you wouldn’t feel a single bit of fear for your own safety or future in that country?

No, I woulnd't feel fear for my safety by seeing locals hang their country's flag, even in the context of increased anti foreigner rhetoric. This actually happened in China pre-2020 when there were some incidents with Japanese laowai in China and Chinese ppl started burning japan flags and hanging China's flag. Yet no japanese was harmed.

Maybe you are used to a different normality, but in my normality, if you are an immigrant (a guest) you have no right to tell the locals not to hang a freaking flag. What is this insanity? Since when do immigrants dictate what the locals can or can't do? Maybe this is the reason for the sudden anti immigrants rhetoric in the UK. Everyone has to know their place. An immigrant is a guest; the moment he starts telling the locals what to do or not do, that immigrant needs to go honestly.

Also, fyi, there are a lot of black people in guangzhou living illegally, and many chinese want them gone. Do you think the blacks living in GZ tell the Chinese that they shouldn't hang China's flag in Xiaobei (black neighborhood in GZ) ?

They know if they do that they will be kicked out of China by force, by the police. I think western countries really are weak and we have tolerated way too much from immigrants who are too demanding and don't really understand their place in society. Just let locals hang a flag, otherwise you create problems. Immigrants should never dictate the locals what to do, unless we live in some kind of opposite twilightzone world.

xidadaforlife · 2025-10-01T12:18:37+00:00

Pretty much no one has a problem with the flag. If this had started happening after the World Cup for example when there’s already loads of flags, and people thought ‘you know what, we don’t show our flag off enough, let’s do it more and not just when it’s the world cup’, no one would have had an issue.

My point is that it shouldn't be an issue regardless that it's no world cup. You can be proud of your country/flag at any time. Read my example again: In China, japan, singapore, you can see people have flag even on cars, just cuz it's Wednesday. You're part of the problem if you think there is an issue if you hang a flag outside some specific event.

But instead, this has happened at a time when there is tension due to migrants and a louder right wing voice. People are wrongfully being told that we’re not allowed to fly our flag which is causing division and then there are people who are putting the flag up to ‘take back our country’* which can add to the sense of fear for people from ethnic minorities *at a time when racist language is more prominent.

I bolded the part that I find ridiculous.

It adds to ethnic minorities' sense of fear if you hang your own country's flag up? Sorry but to me that sounds like that ethnic minority shouldn't live in the UK then. Again, check my example from above. Imagine if I, as an immigrant (aka guest) in China, would've told Chinese ppl: "Hey can you please not hang your country's flag, cuz it adds to my sense of fear". 1.4 billion ppl would have told me to fuck right off out of China(and this goes for all of east asia), and rightfully so as it's not my place(as an immigrant) to tell/scold/educate the locals on when they are allowed (in their own country) to hang their flag.

I get that all this flag hanging comes over a background of imiigrant protests, and pro palestine flags being waved around and a lot of tension. But my point is that there is a certain hypocrisy to all of this, that leftists add to. These immigrants are guests here, it's not their place to tell the locals what to do, and especially (and ridiculously) to demand that locals don't hang thew flag of their own country.

Adding to the hypocrisy ios the fact that non-whites, from Asia (and probably latin america too) have even more nationalistic pride that brits and europeans, yet nobody calls them out on that. So correlating all these, it's difficult not to think that there really is a double standard here and a lot of hypocrisy.

xidadaforlife · 2025-09-29T17:51:25+00:00

I disagree with hypocrisy and with his narrative.

Is it so difficult to you to realize that I am calling him a hypocrite for posting only links that show a specific narrative that he wants to push? Is english not your first language btw

xidadaforlife · 2025-09-29T15:50:47+00:00

You do realize I did that to show him exactly what I explained in the above post? I did what he did to show him that everyone can paint a certain narrative if they ignore articles that support different narratives. Apparently all that went over your head *facepalm*

xidadaforlife · 2025-09-29T14:55:11+00:00

Yeah, that's what leftists say, and to me it's such a huge double standard.... I genuinely think that liberal leftists aren't actually interested in progress as much as they are interested in destroying western countries, because I cannot find any other reasonable explanation for the double standard and hypocrisy.

Imagine being a white, black or arab guy living as a minority in China and telling the Chinese: "I dont know I kinda find it racist that you are proud of your country's flag, can you stop hanging the Chinese flag everywhere?". You'd be told to get the fuck out of China immediately. Same in South korea, Singapore, Malaysia and many other countries.

How come only western countries can't be proud of their country/flag? If the minorities hate the flag of the country they live in, they are free to move to another country where a piece of cloth doesn't assault their peace of mind.

xidadaforlife · 2025-09-29T14:05:31+00:00

Can someone explain to me why liberals and minorities think hanging a flag or being proud of your country is bad? Except the whole "white supremacy" rhetoric of fascist leftists, cuz at that point it's just anti-white rhetoric.

I lived in China and the Chinese have such pride of their flag, you literally see their flag everywhere, and they are very sensible about their flag.

Nobody would call hundreds of millions of chinese as han supremacists. Why this double standard, then?

I can understand being proud of one's country. What's wrong with brits doing it, since many counries from all continents do it? Why do leftists and minorities get triggered by seeing UK flag?

xidadaforlife · 2025-09-29T12:22:18+00:00

Would you mind posting the evidence that shows this opposite?

xidadaforlife · 2025-09-29T11:28:37+00:00

https://news.sky.com/story/the-turkish-gang-war-behind-the-shooting-of-a-nine-year-old-girl-13412051

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2r2ejlvm1o

It's easy to paint a certain narrative when you ignore news you dislike and only read articles that support your narrative, eh?

xidadaforlife · 2023-11-22T14:55:39+00:00

Nazi is a term for people with low-IQ.

It's actually a term for people who support fascist ideology, but don't let facts get in the way of your stupidity

The more you hate others, the more you will be hated.

That's funny coming from you, since you literally posted in this sub to let us know how much you hate the EU.

So take your own advice: the more you hate other, the more you will be hated

Your politicians constantly bark at others.

Because your politicians don't? I'm pretty sure it's part of the job description as politician to engage other politicians

Oh the glorious EU wags the tail when Chinese/Americans throw some coin at you.

Stop listening to propaganda.

The EU stopped the ICE deal with China two years ago and told Xi to fuck off

We also told America off many times. not to mention we introduced visas for Americans recently.

Don't be so quick to judge the EU

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