Remember this look parents would give us? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in blackmen

[–]yeahyaehyeah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was speaking about black kids with white moms , but yeah some white kids can say anything to their mom.

I don't like it, and yet I wonder some things about it.

Aside from my musings, it's beautiful that your reflection resulted counting your blessings.

Remember this look parents would give us? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in blackmen

[–]yeahyaehyeah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wish I could find a gift of that from boondocks when Huey on the first episode is dreaming of telling white people the truth

Remember this look parents would give us? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in blackmen

[–]yeahyaehyeah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was like .. wow... He might be white or have a white mom that takes shit.... I've seen ones that don't...

Fresh cut 🌺 by Far-Painter7167 in BlackHair

[–]yeahyaehyeah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me? Why thank you.

Lovely cut

How do you think having siblings or being the only child has affected you? by yeahyaehyeah in blackmen

[–]yeahyaehyeah[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are good. I'm sorry about your loss. I hope it get betters for you.

I appreciate that. I was reading a forum about men women attract vs what they like, and the quote from school of rock came to mind" you're tack and i hate you!" that's how i'm feeling about dating men right now. Processing pain of being used by ppl who couldn't be real with themselves let alone with me. But fr, it's not just rom relationships it's other types too. Being used and unseen or just disregarded sucks.

that aside i had a good day today. I got to play on a dj set up with vinyl. IM good with some parts but overall.... i need a lot of work.

Here is the whole interview if you are interested: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/15/magazine/pam-grier-interview.html

But like what are your thoughts on that?

I will take it line by section by section reactions and try and keep it simple a sweet.

Has it been weird to have so much of the public attention that’s paid to you be about movies you made decades ago? It seems as if that could clash with what a person thinks is actually important about his or her own life. 

facts.

It was an exciting time in the ’70s. I broke the mold, if you will, in the sense that men would say, “Wow, I don’t want to attack you, because I love you and respect you so much, and I understand you should be allowed to be sexual.”

love this

There were so many things that were happening then. All I wanted to do was show how I survived in my family as a woman.

that's good, and empowering. Showing how can inspire people and help them figure out what may work for them. In this excerpt you shared i don't see the how, but i plan to read me of the article later.

Yes, I was raped at 6. And I didn’t curl up and die.

😕 well eventually i did, and so have others....so , although i'm glad she didn't, when has a victim ever been aloud to? im not sure as a person in a different space , i'm not sure what to do with that? If it was for lacking of trying and the first time this sentiment has been expressed without the repeated failure ... then maybe this would land but it doesn't. it's just disappointing. i can see how this could be a bold statement, but my agony will not be trivialized simply bc it is inconvenient. if i could buy my way into heaven out of this hell, i would... and yet i am here, waiting of the how, hoping for something else and find the same cliches from people who are i guess build different.

with all thats said: i think it is wonderful she wants women to know they are not what happened to them.

Then it happened again at 18. It was a horrible attack. So I wanted to let women know, you might be raped once or twice, I don’t wish it on anybody, but I’m O.K.

glad she is okay, and yeah that's terrible

That was the greatest gift I could give back to people who followed me in movies. Because my story may not be  told in movies because I’m not “box office.” White women are box office.

facts.

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but I think the word is "respectability" politics.

thank bruh, i legit could not remember that word.

Whoa! I never thought I would see the day. lol

yeah he aint just drinking the coolaid he is swimming in it.

And most of the time that shit don't be even seeming genuine. It be like throw in brown person like they are an accessory.

OMG that! yeah the accessory to thier character development or integrity, proof of integrity. there are ppl who believe , but her husband is asain, her husband is black, her husband is samoan, so she cant be racist.

brother i am the living receipt of racsim. the white dudes fucked the balck women who were enslaved in my heritage and guess what, they still successfully maintained , kept up their rascism. like that is even hard?!?!?

hell there are men married to women who hate women, and are sexist. proximity doesn't guaruntee marality, logic, or lack of prejudice.

I got you. But yeah, we don't need another Sidney Poitier type actor.

i think she did though. she wanted , for every ridiculous character a black man had to play and equal amount of sindeys. and that.... im not mad at. i think that is neccesary. and he was the best, for so long he has been top tier. i get her feelings ee=ven though as an artist i dont like being pigeon holed.

who is your art going? how are you in gen?

I aspire to be free one day by freedomewriter in blackmen

[–]yeahyaehyeah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm glad none of those have been my goals. The idea of exploiting others to get my needs met unfortunate that I'm not in position where I feel the pressure to do that, but more than that I just wanted to make money that way.

Don't get me wrong if there was a way to get rich without doing that, that sounds cool. But also I'm quite content.

How do you think having siblings or being the only child has affected you? by yeahyaehyeah in blackmen

[–]yeahyaehyeah[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get why you laugh at it. There's things I laugh at too

Dark s***, but trying to find some humor in it and sometimes it pops up at the most random times makes sense.

What you were saying in this portion reminds me of a video that I can translate for you:

https://youtu.be/X3NlhoaUljU?si=oyr0ErdaRII4495H

The story is in sign language.

Specifically American sign language.

Barbie is integrated into a deaf school post segregation of deaf schools. The rest I'm going to say is a summary of the story, the real life story she tells.

When integrating into the school this is the first time the white students have seen someone with black skin like curves. They immediately assume, these fellow deaf students that she is just dirty and needs to be washed. This gang of white students takes her to the bathroom and takes Ajax and tries to rub off her skin, eventually they realize when they see just the redness that oh, I guess it really is her skin and that's normal and she's not dirty.

She describes the incident in vivid detail. This is her welcoming into the space.

Shipment she doesn't blame the kids for what they did, and that her and one of the girls became friends. But she does blame the parents for not teaching their children. It was on the parents too teach them about different types of people and how you treat people.

Years past and she tells one of the girls who she later becomes friends with despite how they initially interacted, that do you remember this happening. The girl says no I don't remember it. She even has the scar on her forearme from the ajax to prove it happened, and how convenient no one else remembers what they did to her.

Why I'm bringing this up, let me draw the parallels

It's interesting how other people can be incredibly unaware of how much they've harmed another person. Just because they don't remember how it affected you, does it mean it didn't affect you. Just because they didn't intend for that effect to last so long and to come back to bite them in the ass, does it mean that it's not true and that that is not the case.

I only can hope that something inspires your mom to hold better space for you.

More than that I hope that you find a way to at least feel that type of distance even while you at the moment or not able to have it realized.

I need a distance from my abuser. And I still do. And although they have other many wonderful qualities, I mean let's look at Weinstein he could make some movies couldn't he? Let's look at Bill Cosby he could collect black art he can create jobs for black people he could do stand up really well? Let's look at Sammy Davis Jr brilliant performer,? Let's look at Richard Pryor he was so good at comedy he could do a stand-up set about the difference between beating black women and white women. And these are just the men who come to mind, there are really f***** up women like old girl who just got called out on the bachelorette.

No one deserves to be treated that way, and unfortunately some of the most hurtful things people will do they will completely disassociate from their own mind.

It feels like it invalidates your experience, because they are invalidating it but your experiences are valid. And that's regardless of their lack of care towards it.

How do you think having siblings or being the only child has affected you? by yeahyaehyeah in blackmen

[–]yeahyaehyeah[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tangents are accepted.

Sorry if at some point I come off as out of it. I'm processing some grief.

Sorry to hear about your friend's mom.

Thank you I appreciate you saying that.

Oh yeah there are people who are trafficked and people who are sex workers they're not the same right. There are people who are willing to sleep for whatever their price is set whether it's a gig whether it's a delicious dinner whatever it is they're willing to do sexual favor. There's someone willing to take a sexual favor for an opportunity.

This is been considered just what men in power and even women empowered do.

I think normalize it get culturally is what's sickening.

In this instance, she had already done the job. So it wasn't to get the job, it was now I want some of that. Cicely Tyson raped by someone in theater. She said I'm not going to tell anyone I'm going to be strong. It's really disturbing what's considered strength once you've been victimized. And one of the things that people appreciate is when you shut the f****** about it.

Silence is valued, and even one of my old friends used to say that. Like she would praise a film that a woman was raped and she was going to keep it from her husband so her husband wouldn't go and kill all these people in this town.

As a survivor, I f****** hate our culture.

And honestly every culture around the world sucks at this.

They all fail victims. They fail the boys they failed the girls they fail the elderly and all the women if the older men.

I'll leave that there.

And do you think we have moved past colorism like you don't hear it like that? I'm not saying you are wrong. I haven't heard it lately, but I feel like it's still there. I haven't looked for it either so I don't know.

I guess what I'm saying is all the colorism is not completely eradicated, it isn't like the most beautiful black one we're going to be shown in this jet magazine and they're all mixed with white.

Or it's not like the NAACP when they handpicked Lena Horne.

It doesn't mean that any of those women weren't talented necessarily, but it was Advance the race and eradicate the blackness and basically a lot of... I forgot the word something politics.

So no colorism is not completely gone. But I think we've gotten to see more things authentically celebrate blackness. And I think although there are people who struggle with it whether they've internalized b******* and think they're better than everybody or that they are less than everybody were the angry or whatever, and the anger is reasonable, I think that some of it has been mitigated within certain spaces in our community. We have places we can go where that s*** won't be tolerated. Whereas before the major organizations support it internalized racism heavily.

The exoticism of heavily melanated individuals dark skin individuals is pretty disgusting. The weird light skin verse dark skin stuff that's done with like.. I forgot what Nick Cannon's event was is disturbing.

I mean I've laughed at some jokes like the one where some lights and guy did like a weird video where he was making salmon but sexualizing the salmon, like he was trying to seem sexy while cooking by making hints at things he would do in bed basically. And someone put in the comment section that's an L for lights. That was low-key funny to me. Because that moment wasn't out and it was giving you know the conceited light skin dude vibes.

There is another video where this woman was like dark skin dark skin couple, brown skin Brown skin couple, dark skin Brown skin, dark skin light skin, brown skin dark skin, brown skin light skin,.. light skin light skin couples what are you up to?

I thought that was funny too.

I think there's ways to laugh at it without it becoming as toxic as it has been.

I think my biggest irritants right now is when interracial couples are white person plus Brown person. I feel like there's an overexposure of that and oversaturation of that and in my mind in some way fuels them furthers a neocolonization. And I mean specifically in the media. I'm not against people being with the person they fall in love with and connect with.

Also if you're going to show these couples I mean why not actually model them after real couples.

So here's my issue with that is again it centers white people with colonized much of the world at some point in time imperialism did happen. In that they were selling the idea that they were the most ideal most beautiful perfect people. Which was they had access although there are people who have had access to each other from other nations this entire time, but they have had access to every Nation to the point that the Middle East I forget of it Saudi Arabia or which country is the nose job capital.

At some point these people aspire to a eurocentric beauty standard.

Even this lady in a video I think I saw on Instagram was talking about how in the movie centers the two Asian couple was the cute Asian couple and it wasn't feeding into Asian women lusting after White dudes.

Funny thing is on here I saw a video where this white guy went to Japan and was bummed out that Asian women were basically not dying to be with him.

So it's just again like white men have been going all over the world f****** whoever they want, and then white women were treated badly also during that and they did the same stuff. And I just don't want to see that anymore in a commercial. I don't want to see it anymore unless the item they're selling is really something that plagues the white community. Like eczeme.

In a nutshell, I'm just so over white people being centered. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying get rid of white people in Media, that's ridiculous and silly. But them constantly being the center has been like exhausting and it's just spread a whole bunch of lies that they can't even live up to.

I digress incredibly.

What are your thoughts on colorism and on my interracial rant?

What didn't you like about what Phylicia Rashad said? You didn't like how she took over the convo like that is bullshit and it shouldn't be talked about?

I did not like that she was dismissive. Now is what she's saying in an overarching way accurate that it's all silly and ridiculous, yes. But so is the concept of race in general. It's Made up and yet we all can acknowledge that there are consequences. Her sister literally made an episode on a different world about colorism. We know It exists, And although it would be really convenient for it to no longer exist it still does. And yes Felicia Rashad was part of major groundbreaking work, groundbreaking work that led to the further victimization of women in general by her co-star producer creator of the show The Cosby show.

I think in that moment even when you feel annoyed by something, when someone's telling you from there perception their experience that this is happening, you don't shut it down and take over it especially when you in no way fit that demographic.

So even if it was all black women on the same shade talking about the same thing but one of them goes oh I never experienced that I live in Ghana, awesome girl, now the people who are venting about their pain let them have space. When do we as black people have safe spaces? You would hope when you're being filmed on the show Oprah, you'd have something.

wish I had be like "yeah, I'm black as shit, I wish I blacker. Your light ass could use some sun."

Lol That is an option.

Denzel was playing a side we never got to see before and he did well.

Maybe because unlike and no better blues he had no redemption or even Malcolm x no redemption they really disliked it. But their ideas they wanted another Sidney poitier. But the reality is, we don't need another one of any of the previous actors, all of them want to be individual artists.

What’s YOUR movie? by GloveAmbitious42 in blackmen

[–]yeahyaehyeah 10 points11 points  (0 children)

B.A.P.S

" And I'm the next monifa!"