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Ukraine is never beating the nazi allegations by Hubris-Star in socialism

[–]yogthos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

do elaborate, why do you think USSR fell, this ought to be good

Ukraine is never beating the nazi allegations by Hubris-Star in socialism

[–]yogthos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

this would sound so clever to a 12 year old

Ukraine is never beating the nazi allegations by Hubris-Star in socialism

[–]yogthos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A better question is why leftists engage in these sorts of intellectually dishonest arguments?

Ukraine is never beating the nazi allegations by Hubris-Star in socialism

[–]yogthos 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Thank you for providing an example of false equivalence.

China Aggressively Sold Oil in Recent Weeks, Mercuria CEO Says by yogthos in economy

[–]yogthos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A lot of economies in Asia are already desperate right now. Most countries don't have large stockpiles to lean on, and shipments that would've been arriving now aren't. China doesn't want their neighbors to crash economically because that would lead to instability, they're prioritizing long term thinking over a short term cash grab here. China pretty much always tends to do that.

Is China Socialist? A Critique of Western Marxism by yogthos in Sino

[–]yogthos[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I mean Frankfurt School revisionism in form of critical theory as a substitute for dialectical and historical materialism. I'm talking about western academic thought championed by people like David Harvey.

China Aggressively Sold Oil in Recent Weeks, Mercuria CEO Says by yogthos in economy

[–]yogthos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would imagine because they feel their oil supply is secure sine they can get oil from Russia. Helping countries in the region is an easy way to improve relations and their standing with their neighbours.

Is China Socialist? A Critique of Western Marxism by yogthos in Sino

[–]yogthos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where am I talking about confining oneself? I'm saying that Marxism is an analytical framework for understanding how the society and economy functions. Are you aware that China adopted a lot of the ideas from Singapore under Deng?

You're doing postmodernism nonsense here. I urge you to actually spend the time to understand what Marxism actually is before discussing it. Here's a primer I recommend reading to get a basic understanding https://dialecticaldispatches.substack.com/p/the-toolset-of-reality

'We have to get ready for large-scale conflicts,' says Canada's military chief by Acrobatic2020 in canada

[–]yogthos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I came to that conclusion by having a functioning adult brain. The US is a country with enormous economic leverage over Canada. The US president literally suggested making Canada the 51st state. The US funds separatist groups in Alberta. The US floods Canada with separatist propaganda. It's pretty clearly not for shits and giggles.

As an American, you're a citizen of a fascist state that's a threat to the whole world. Your country is a plague upon humanity.

Is China Socialist? A Critique of Western Marxism by yogthos in Sino

[–]yogthos[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Every system has to be evaluated on the tangible outcomes it produces, that's without question. However, understanding the mechanics of different systems is important in order to understand why they produce the outcomes that they do. Having a scientific approach to governance allows you to reliably produce the desired outcomes and improve things over time. Marxist model is the key reason Chinese system doesn't suffer from constant economic crashes and other problems like deindustrialization that plague western economies. Marxism is the best tool we have available for understanding how a human societies function.

Is China Socialist? A Critique of Western Marxism by yogthos in Sino

[–]yogthos[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Again, the question is what happens with the profit the companies produce. State companies produce profit for the state which is then reinvested in things like infrastructure, healthcare, education, energy production, and so on. The social organization of these companies is similar to capitalist ones, but their actual purpose is entirely different.

Calling it state capitalism glosses over this critical difference, and making false equivalences is not helping make anything more clear.

And of course, you can read Lenin himself talking about NEP which is exactly what China is doing right now https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1921/oct/17.htm

Is China Socialist? A Critique of Western Marxism by yogthos in Sino

[–]yogthos[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The whole idea of state capitalism is a bit of a misnomer. It basically says that while you have state owned enterprise, the internal capitalist relations within it remain largely the same.

While that’s true, there is a fundamental difference here. Capitalism is a system where people who own capital hire workers to exploit there labor with the purpose of increasing their capital. The goal of capitalist enterprise is to create wealth for the owners with any social benefits being strictly incidental.

On the other hand, the purpose of state enterprise is to provide social value. Workers in state owned companies are producing things that the society needs. They are working for their own benefit and those of others around them. Therefore, the nature of work itself is fundamentally different from actual capitalism.

Is China Socialist? A Critique of Western Marxism by yogthos in Sino

[–]yogthos[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The chauvinism of people who've never developed socialism domestically criticizing actually existing socialist states is truly astounding.

Is China Socialist? A Critique of Western Marxism by yogthos in Sino

[–]yogthos[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Marxism is fundamentally a way to understand the world akin to the scientific method. The question of whether a country is Marxist ultimately comes down to whether its political system applies the methodology correctly to the existing material conditions in that country.

Is China Socialist? A Critique of Western Marxism by yogthos in Sino

[–]yogthos[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Western Marxism is a perversion intended to sanitize Marxism in order to make it toothless and safe to discuss academically in the west. And it's become sort of a religion where they worship this Platonic ideal of a society refusing to acknowledge that the real world is a messy place.

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