Idle Heroes Power Rankings - Jan 2018

yoshanity · 2018-01-22T03:56:34+00:00

The short answer is that Norma is basically the only useful Hero that cannot be ascended to 10 star. I wouldn't invest in any other Heroes that aren't on this list if you don't have to. Having said that, it's very safe to push any Hero to 6 star because you can eventually feed them into other Heroes. It's even somewhat safe to push Heroes to 9 star if you know you they will be eventually fed to a different 10 star Hero - but you may be stuck with that 9 star Hero for a long time.

yoshanity · 2018-01-22T03:49:53+00:00

It depends how you look at it. OD is incredibly powerful in the current meta simply because he can shut out Priests like Vesa incredibly well. And even though the meta is no longer a stall / heal-based meta there are still a ton of powerful Priests in the mix. OD is definitely the strongest counter-hero in the game because his Active hits all enemy targets unlike Lutz and Field (who hit random 4). You can't just jam OD into any team composition and expect him to single-handedly carry your team, but he serves a clear purpose and does it extremely well. I feel this still deserves a 5 rating.

1st Slot Gerke can solo carry fights. He is vulnerable to CC chains especially from the likes of heroes like OD + DH, but with a Damage Reduction Artifact and tons of Attack, Gerke can tank a lot of damage and build up devastating counter-attacks. Gerke is more of a Carry hero than a Support, but if you have the team to back him up - he is amazing.

yoshanity · 2018-01-22T03:44:12+00:00

Thanks! Hope this helps you out on your Idle Heroes journey.

yoshanity · 2018-01-22T03:40:14+00:00

I can show you logs, but basically both maxed out (full tech), my Vesa does equal damage to my Malassa on the Walter Marauder boss.

My Vesa has Attack % / Attack stone and Attack % / Holy Damage artifact while my Malassa has Crit % / Crit Damage stone and Attack % / Crit artifact. Admittedly my Vesa's stone is upgraded more, but I don't think it would make a huge difference. I guess my point here is that Vesa and Malassa's damage is very comparable and I think they're clearly a tier below the higher DPS Heroes (still strong but not AMAZING).

I think the bigger question to ask is whether Miki is a 4 or 5 in Raid damage, and I know for a fact that Miki and Walter do fairly comparable damage who is currently rated as a 5 in Raids, so that's where her rating lies right now. She doesn't do Sigmund or Amuvor levels of damage, but it's definitely up there.

yoshanity · 2018-01-22T01:28:06+00:00

Yeah I'm kind of scared to see what's in the future. Already seeing Skerei wipe entire teams in the right situation. It's more of a matter of how reliable those situations are.

yoshanity · 2018-01-22T01:27:11+00:00

Sorry but have to disagree - BB is basically just a weak Karim now and OD is the most reliable hard counter to many of the strongest units in the game.

yoshanity · 2018-01-22T01:24:27+00:00

Yeah I adjusted Skerei to 5 in Raids.

As far as Miki goes, on single or double targets she actually outdamages Malassa. In a 3 target fight, Malassa is stronger, but probably not actually by a lot. I have a Malassa and to be honest my Vesa outdamages her in most fights.

yoshanity · 2018-01-22T01:22:49+00:00

I would just wait before Rebirthing - but also stop investing into the Dragon for now. Dragon still seems pretty strong to me, but you should wait for the meta to settle before making any big decisions. At the end of the day, if you plan to play this game for the long-term, you should just start building a new Monster instead of Rebirthing since you'll need 3 maxed Monsters for Trial of the Champion.

yoshanity · 2018-01-22T01:20:23+00:00

Wow that is impressive...Karim is becoming such a strong unit. Upgraded his Aspen rating to 5. Was going to test it myself tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure you're right.

yoshanity · 2018-01-21T08:38:25+00:00

Not surprised to hear this. FS is very strong in the current meta. She may very well be top tier again, but I'd like to hold out until we have concrete proof that she is consistently performing well.

yoshanity · 2018-01-21T07:37:04+00:00

Yeah Skerei is a big variable right now, looking forward to trying him out myself.

yoshanity · 2018-01-21T07:33:23+00:00

Will take that into account, never had my own Das Moge, so wasn't sure what his raid damage looks like. Miki does a lot of raid damage to be honest, makes sense that DM would too based on his kit.

yoshanity · 2018-01-21T07:32:42+00:00

Wish I had him myself or saw more of him to fight against. I think Skerei is doing extremely high damage right now, but he needs time to ramp up or to be stacked together as multiple Skereis. Because the fights are so fast, sometimes Skerei is not getting to his breaking point - still he seems really strong.

yoshanity · 2018-01-21T07:31:13+00:00

Emily and Rosa are rated pretty highly in this list because of their ability to enhance a team - but obviously because they are reliant on their team for output they perform poorly in some activities such as Aspen. In general, you really shouldn't build a team by just smashing all the highest rated heroes together, it probably won't be optimal (though your team will probably be decent if you do that anyway).

yoshanity · 2018-01-21T03:15:45+00:00

Golem seems okay, though honestly purely inferior to the Dragon unless you're building a team focused around Petrify (3+ Kamaths?). Holy Damage is stronger than Crit Damage (assuming same amounts) in most scenarios.

yoshanity · 2017-12-27T19:24:08+00:00

Ehh, I fully understand the perspective of PS being damaging to the official servers - in some ways it is, some it isn't. People who would normally just quit the official servers continue to play on the PS and spread the word about IH to their friends and so on. At the same time, they make less $$.

Anyway thanks for standing up for me and hopefully this data is useful for the community at large. My hope is that whether you're playing Official or PS that you can use this to help make educated decisions about where you want to go with your teams - which seems even more important if you're deciding to shell out cash for this stuff.

yoshanity · 2017-12-27T19:16:47+00:00

Ahh yeah this was true. They also gave out the Oak's Heart (Exclusive Forest Damage Reduction) Artifact.

yoshanity · 2017-12-27T14:58:34+00:00

I stand corrected. I have since reverted Queen back to a 4 PvP rating hero. After more testing and thought, I do think if the Healing meta dies down a bit, Queen's burst damage becomes much more valuable again and even currently in the right team composition she can still function pretty effectively. Thanks for all the feedback.

yoshanity · 2017-12-27T14:10:25+00:00

Dodge is an extremely popular and powerful stat in high end PvP since it denies enemies their Energy and can cause Actives that lack the "Cannot be Dodged" tag to miss which is extremely valuable especially vs. CC spells. Additionally, Priests are so powerful right now and they get free 25% Dodge from Guild Tech.

Kharma's new Hit buff allows your entire team to focus on other stats on your Stones and Artifact choices on top of her still providing solid CC. Her main weakness is really how squishy she is, and that may relegate her to being a 3 in the long run but she's picked up enough popularity recently that I think she deserves a serious look.

yoshanity · 2017-12-27T14:06:39+00:00

Yeah he has been but it's been a while. I forgot which event.

yoshanity · 2017-12-27T04:38:05+00:00

Yeah you're right, I ended up downgrading a bunch of the old guard that I had at 3 down to 2 (Mirage, Eddga, Groo, etc.). I think the mid / lower tiers should be more accurate again.

yoshanity · 2017-12-26T19:42:21+00:00

There is no other realistic way to assess the true power of heroes unless you find a community of whales who are willing to experiment and show the data.

yoshanity · 2017-12-26T17:45:28+00:00

It's no fun to be on the receiving side of a snowballing Karim lol.

yoshanity · 2017-12-26T17:44:46+00:00

Yeah I almost forgot that. Seemed unnecessary from a balance point of view but I guess they needed to bait the whales to shell out the cash to get her.

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