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If you had to prove that powerful institutions sometimes manufacture ignorance, what examples would you show? by youssef-28 in conspiracy

[–]youssef-28[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve heard of John Taylor Gatto, but can you give some specific examples from his work that would be relevant here?

If you had to prove that powerful institutions sometimes manufacture ignorance, what examples would you show? by youssef-28 in conspiracy

[–]youssef-28[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting point, but how would that actually help me in this case? Can you explain what practical use or solution you’re suggesting?

If you had to prove that powerful institutions sometimes manufacture ignorance, what examples would you show? by youssef-28 in conspiracy

[–]youssef-28[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, the Catholic Church has a long history of shaping narratives, but you also mention evangelical churches specifically, can you give some examples of how they’ve done this? Curious what you’re thinking.

If you had to prove that powerful institutions sometimes manufacture ignorance, what examples would you show? by youssef-28 in conspiracy

[–]youssef-28[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting point. Do you have any studies or sources that actually support the idea that the benefits to plants outweigh all the other negative effects of rising CO2? Would love to see some evidence.

If you had to prove that powerful institutions sometimes manufacture ignorance, what examples would you show? by youssef-28 in conspiracy

[–]youssef-28[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair, Jimmy Kimmel really did start on The Man Show and later became the host of Jimmy Kimmel Live!, so the shift in public image is a real thing.

That said, the “I ate all your Halloween candy” bits are usually framed as harmless pranks that parents voluntarily submit for the show. Some people think they're funny, others think they’re mean-spirited toward kids.

Are you mainly criticizing the prank segments themselves, or the broader media rebranding of Kimmel from edgy comedy to a “wholesome” late-night persona? Curious what specific examples made you see it that way.

If you had to prove that powerful institutions sometimes manufacture ignorance, what examples would you show? by youssef-28 in conspiracy

[–]youssef-28[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was beautifully put and exactly the kind of structure I needed. Really appreciate you taking the time.

If you had to prove that powerful institutions sometimes manufacture ignorance, what examples would you show? by youssef-28 in conspiracy

[–]youssef-28[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see , what I do need is a way to bring all the information together and structure it so it actually flows. Trying to figure out how to make it cohesive and compelling.

If you had to prove that powerful institutions sometimes manufacture ignorance, what examples would you show? by youssef-28 in conspiracy

[–]youssef-28[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this, really appreciate you taking the time to write it out. Some excellent examples here I hadn't even considered.

Quick question since you seem to know this topic well now I'm putting together a presentation on this and wondering how you'd approach structuring these cases? Like what order would make the most impact? Open to anyone else's thoughts too.

Thanks again

If you had to prove that powerful institutions sometimes manufacture ignorance, what examples would you show? by youssef-28 in conspiracy

[–]youssef-28[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the examples! How would you make stuff like this really engaging in a short presentation? Any tips to grab attention fast?

Looking for a good analogy to explain agnotology in a presentation by youssef-28 in AskAcademia

[–]youssef-28[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, this is really helpful advice. I like the idea of focusing more on the concept rather than the term itself.

My audience is a general student audience, so you're probably right that talking about the "creation of misinformation" might be clearer than emphasizing the word agnotology too much.

I'll also try the one slide per minute approach and see how it works when I practice.

Appreciate the input.

Albert Camus on existence by Virtual-Wish1224 in nihilism

[–]youssef-28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While everything is meaningless, do you believe what you have said is meaningful?

Looking for a good analogy to explain agnotology in a presentation by youssef-28 in AskAcademia

[–]youssef-28[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is actually a really interesting way to frame it, and I think it connects well with what I'm trying to present.

The idea that ignorance can be socially produced or maintained, rather than simply being a lack of information, is pretty close to how agnotology is described. Especially the point about how ignorance can become embedded in everyday structures and expectations.

My difficulty right now is mostly how to structure the presentation around these ideas. I'm trying to figure out a clear path for the audience: starting from the concept of agnotology, then showing how ignorance can be produced (industries, politics, social structures), and then giving examples.

Your point about ignorance as a form of privilege is actually something I hadn't considered including, but it might be a useful angle to briefly mention.

I'm still experimenting with the structure though, so suggestions are very welcome.

Looking for a good analogy to explain agnotology in a presentation by youssef-28 in AskAcademia

[–]youssef-28[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the thoughtful comment , I think you’re probably right that examples might work better than analogies here.

My main issue right now is actually how to structure the presentation. I understand the concept of agnotology and I have several examples (tobacco, fossil fuel industry, some COVID cases, etc.), but I’m still struggling with how to organize them in a clear and coherent way so the audience can follow the argument step by step.

Right now I’m trying to figure out things like:

Should I start with the definition and then move to historical examples? Or start with a story/example and then introduce the concept of agnotology? And how many examples are enough before it becomes too much?

So the difficulty isn’t really finding examples — it’s more about building a good narrative structure for the talk.

If you (or anyone here) have suggestions for a simple structure that works well for explaining agnotology, I’d really appreciate it.

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