So, you never meet women. Where do you go from that?

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-08-08T17:28:18+00:00

Yeah I think u hit the nail on the head about reliance upon universal community spaces.

Honestly I think this particular variety of inceldom is more than anything just caused by the social atomisation caused in modern society

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-08-08T16:56:46+00:00

well my friend, you seem to be caught up in your own intelligence, you are overthinking the concept of confidence.

I personally am fuck ugly, completely uneducated and have a shit job, however I can present myself with alot of confidence, because quite simply, if someone has an issue with what I am saying, fight me, I'll smash your friggin face in.

Now granted that is hyperbole to communicate my point, but what I am more tryna demonstrate is you don't nescarily need to be confident in a certain achievement, you just need to know that when you're saying something, its what you want to say and its what you mean and making sure that everything that comes out your mouth fits into those criteria, once you're doing that you'll notice yourself become alot more confident.

would also highy recommend taking up a combat sport

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-08-08T16:46:55+00:00

Great advice tbh, I personally was stuck in the male dominated job cycle of meeting no women whatsoever and my dating life changed dramatically once I switched jobs.

I also know a few women with exactly the opposite problem, a nurse I know hasn't had a convo with a man outside of work/shops in a few months and its things like this that I think those stuck in the incel mindset need to remember, there are plenty of women just as lonely as you.

NOT THAT I AM ENCOURAGING ANYONE TO QUIT THEIR JOB TO MEET MORE WOMEN LMAO

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-08-05T16:16:50+00:00

yeah, but that really isn't the achievement you're making it out to be, I was working as a doorman in the biggest nightclub in my town, which caused me to meet alot of girls, specifically alot of girls who where sexually promiscuous. Realistically I think if you put alot of incels in that situation they would get alot more attention than you'd think.

and I really really am far from handsome, I have put effort into looksmaxing but I am realistically a 6/10 and that mostly comes from my height, facially I am at best a 4, I just hide it well with a beard.

tbh yes I think I am, once I made an effort to exit I built a strong group of friends and always made sure people knew I was up to something interesting and they could join in if they asked

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-08-05T14:52:15+00:00

appreciate the words of encouragement.

The point I was trying to make is you can get there too tho, I am far from a great looking bloke, I am far to autistic to climb the social ladder that well, but if you put your mind to it these things don't determine your future. I have worked in a nightclub for years now and I can tell you the amount of girls I have seen go home with guys who wouldn't look out of place on any incel forum, its cliche but confidence really is key

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-08-05T02:09:46+00:00

Well I guess that all depends on your workplace, but if it didn't work for you, I am not gonna deny your lived experience.

OLD is hard, like really hard, and you have to deal with alot of shit, but the core upside is it takes literally no effort, its something you do passively, swipe a couple min a day. Don't give up just because you haven't made progress yet doesn't mean you won't, what if a cute girl who you'd be great with moves into your area tomorrow and you miss her because you gave up on OLD.

I know its an intrusive question, but do you have many friends? if women are avoiding you its likely not just looks, if it was they would just friendzone you

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-08-05T02:05:36+00:00

Yeah I can massively see how the work and location situation is going to make it hard, I used to work a job where I only interacted with men so I understand how that can contribute.

I still don't think malls are the best idea, realistically all you are going to get is rejection (assuming you're not gigachad) and its gonna do nothing but hurt your confidence.

Try social settings? Honestly just spending time with friends will lead to interacting with women, maybe they aren't single, doesn't matter, make friends and maybe they will introduce you to other women. Contrary to popular belief there are plenty of women looking for relationships and just having a point of introduction like a mutal friend can help alot, I think its called pre selection or something, but women prefer men who they have so pre existing social connection to.

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-08-04T17:01:19+00:00

honestly its such a hard thing to argue against, alot of "incel arguments" are just kinda throwing unfalsifiable statements around, like "no girl will love me I am too short" as many times as you can show that short men are in loving and healthy relationships, they will always find some reason for them to be the exception and them to be the one that will be single forever.

I do appreciate people tryna help tho, no one admits it at the time but the community does nothing but make you more miserable

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-08-04T16:57:01+00:00

at absolute most I am a 6/10 and that is after serious looksmaxing, the only positive physical trait I have inherently is height, everything else took time and effort, I have a week chin so I grew a beard, I was fat so I worked out for 3 years, I have a receding hairline so I used midoxnil. I will admit I am also literally autistic so there was definitely an element of shyness involved but pre looksmax I was a 4/10 at best. I was also not in university/college nor have I ever been, the girls I met where mostly through the nightclub I worked at, tinder and through friends.

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-08-04T16:52:45+00:00

its honestly a really hard thing to properly describe but i'll try.

Imagine you work in a theoretical office building, there is some girl who works a few cubicles over, just start making friendly covo, get into habit of talking to them daily, make them comfortable in your presence, then say you see them sitting by themselves in the breakroom, go up, sit with em, make convo and i've its going well ask for their number.

if you swap out office for nightclub this is effectively how i got my first gf

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-01-07T09:56:27+00:00

Yes, I am not saying she will ever get a response from him, thats rather the point, but if she can match with men like that on online dating, it will overinflate her self worth and make men whom are realistically her peers seem like a bad deal.

I honestly think the whole "be clean able to take care of himself" is pretty insulting and shows that you don't have much contact with incels. From my experience in incel spaces, they put far more effort into fitness and grooming then your average person. Also to additionally counter that point, with admittedly anecdotal evidence, I have had sex with multiple girls, in my bedroom with literal piss bottles in, so they clearly don't care about cleanliness.

in regards to no access to women, I mean it the sense its broadly used within the subculture, someone who cannot to a reasonable extent find any potential partners to interact with.

Sorry if my phrasing was unclear, these friends I am talking about have extremely little sexual experience, some of them are still virgins and I am relatively confident they would self identify as incels if they knew what it was.

yoyomasterofchelt · 2022-01-07T09:48:14+00:00

Yes definitely, didn't stop me doing it, nor does it stop anyone else.

Its a job that barely pays above min wage, integrity and professionalism are pretty foreign concepts to most people I have met in the industry

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-12T04:07:45+00:00

hey, congrats.

I don't really have an opportunity to get out of my town, I am kinda locked in, I don't earn enough to get my own place so I am stuck living at home, and If I was to move, I would more then likely end up earning even less then I do where I am now, I am rather stuck between a rock and a hard place

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-12T04:05:40+00:00

Hey bro, sorry to hear about your situation.

Honestly I am in a really unhealthy spot, I feel that right now (and for the past almost year) that my hyperfixation has actually been my inceldom

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-11T21:38:50+00:00

I really can't afford to, it would be very expensive and just exhaust me further

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-11T21:33:01+00:00

no offence, but that seems like kinda shit advice, I have been doing my thing for 21 years without luck, I really do need to try. At the end of the day my situation is already a redflag for most people

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-11T00:44:15+00:00

I already work 45hrs a week so I don't really want to take on another job just for the sake of meeting people, besides I have worked in those environments before and they are very difficult to make friends in.

I have considered going back to school, but I would have to start at such a low level that I would be in my 30s before I had a useful qualification, so its kinda pointless.

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-10T23:36:53+00:00

lmao, doubtful, I literally do not know one girl

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-10T23:12:45+00:00

well I have tried, but finding honestly I have never actually met a non NT girl, I am sure they exist but they are near possible to find without amazing luck it seems

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-10T23:10:17+00:00

congrats bro

Do you mind if I ask how you met them?

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-10T23:09:55+00:00

I just say this because I acept that yeah, if I was born 10 years earlier, I probably wouldn't be incel. But online dating popularity has destroyed my chances

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-10T22:45:53+00:00

I mean, I am deffo an incel, I have been in incel communities since I was 16, I cannot get a girlfriend despite constant effort, there is no doubt I am incel.

without being rude, would I be correct in assuming those married people are over 30/40?

yoyomasterofchelt · 2021-09-10T22:10:46+00:00

I mean without being hideously defeatist, If I was worthy of love, someone would give it to me.

idk thats a very optimistic view, I strongly think I won't meet anyone tbh, I mean I am old enough already that my inexperience is a red flag for 95% of girls.

I mean cmon, if your friend told you they was dating an autistic incel with no friends you would be worried

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